How far right is the GOP?

[Michael Cole]

I'm not really sure that the government telling people they can't go to work and can't operate their businesses due to a public health concern and then compensating those who are put out of work really constitutes "socialism". Then again, as I understand it, since I'm not a Socialist then I am not allowed to make a determination with regard to whether something is Socialist or not. Only Socialists get to define Socialism in the Socialist world.

Then how can you say Democrats endorse socialism?

Public health isn't economics. All nations react to public health.

 

[Lutherf]

Then how can you say Democrats endorse socialism?

Public health isn't economics. All nations react to public health.

It's a technicality. Since I don't live in the Socialist world then I get to define Socialism in my world.

 

[Xilnik]

is there an article or a citation with this?

where did the chart originate?

I tracked down the article that shows it, but it appears the image itself came from PBS. The article is here: Opinion | What Happened to America’s Political Center of Gravity? - The New York Times

https://twitter.com/sahilchinoy/status/1143939612794150912

 

[Michael Cole]

It's a technicality. Since I don't live in the Socialist world then I get to define Socialism in my world.

Well, that settles it. :roll:

 

[Nickyjo]

This is a hilarious premise.
The GOP was swung too far right, when it is the Democrats and the left that are purposing de-fund, dismantle, disband the police.

It is the Democrats and the left that are purporting protests and riots in the time of a contagious viral outbreak as being perfectly safe, yet also claim that the opposition's political rallies are 'dangerous' 'will kill people' are a public safety threat (of their own making), etc. etc. etc.

So much bull**** from the Democrats, the leftists and their accomplices in the media, the nation is drowning in bull****.

In reality it is the Democrats and the leftists that have veered to the hard far left (hopefully to 'left out').

Nice straw men you’ve created there. Every idiot who throws a rock is a dem. Sort of like every white supremacist is GOP.

 

[Nickyjo]

It's a technicality. Since I don't live in the Socialist world then I get to define Socialism in my world.

Of course you, as do all of us, live in a socialist (and capitalist) world.

 

[Xilnik]

Nice straw men you’ve created there. Every idiot who throws a rock is a dem. Sort of like every white supremacist is GOP.

Extremists are considered extremists for a reason. They do not really represent the political party they claim to be a part of because they often act in ways that make the party look worse than it is. We have seen a lot of that over the past few weeks, or even going back a couple months with COVID-19, from both sides.

 

[eohrnberger]

Nice straw men you’ve created there. Every idiot who throws a rock is a dem. Sort of like every white supremacist is GOP.

Yet more bull****.

Ask yourself where I have made the claim 'Every idiot who throws a rock is a dem' ? I have not.

 

[iguanaman]

Interesting analysis. They push themselves further right in an effort to contrast themselves with the Democrats?

They have backed themselves in a corner and there is no way out but further Right. It started with Nixon's "Southern Strategy" that brought Southern Conservatives and KKK supporters into the party.

 

[iguanaman]

It's a technicality. Since I don't live in the Socialist world then I get to define Socialism in my world.

Yes and denying science is an integral part of that world. You have backed yourself into a corner.

 

[Xilnik]

Yet more bull****.

Ask yourself where I have made the claim 'Every idiot who throws a rock is a dem' ? I have not.

when it is the Democrats and the left that are purposing de-fund, dismantle, disband the police.

You essentially said the far left represents all Democrats with the above. Do you realize it is only a small percentage who are talking about disbanding the police? Most just want police reform, including an investigation into funding and whether some funding might be able to go to other programs that support people instead of constantly policing everyone's actions.

 

[Nickyjo]

I don’t think the GOP is much farther right than it has been since the mid-1960s. Most (not all) of Trump’s and policies and appointments are standard republican stuff, leaving aside the general bipartisan consensus on environmental issues where he has been extreme. What distinguishes this GOP has been their acquiescence or silence faced with Trump’s preaching of bigotry with respect to minorities, immigrants, refugees, his endorsement of war crimes, etc. And that may simply be a product of electoral fear of his base.

 

[Court Jester]

Something everyone in US politics should understand: the GOP is the farthest right major party in any developed democracy.

To find analogues you have to look to splinter neo-fascist parties in the EU.

LOL that is a laugh.

Republican party is not far right not even close. The Republican party is just barely right of center at this point. Trump isn't even a Republican--- not really. But you wouldn't know that in a party that has previously nominated liberals and left of center ideologies like Mitt Romney, John McCain, and every single member of the the Bush family.

You liberals are incapable of prossessing two basic realities:

1) Republicans are NOT far right
2) The Democrat party today IS a socialist party.

So no wonder you think Republicans are "far right" ---- you are so left in your party that JFK would be considered right wing. You liberal progressive socialists are already spooning together in bed with Karl Marx and Ho Chi Minn.

 

[SoCal]

I believe they're far enough right that they would commit any inhumane act if their fascist leader tells them to...

 

[eohrnberger]

You essentially said the far left represents all Democrats with the above. Do you realize it is only a small percentage who are talking about disbanding the police? Most just want police reform, including an investigation into funding and whether some funding might be able to go to other programs that support people instead of constantly policing everyone's actions.

You claim that 'only a small percentage who are talking about disbanding the police', yet it would appear that a far larger majority of the Democrats and the radical left are calling for, and would be unaffected by, this action and the consequences there of, are calling for exactly that. Who does suffer the consequences of disbanding the police? That would be the minority neighborhoods, to whom the Democrats and the radical left claim to have concern for, but are largely ignoring.

The Ferguson effect
The most controversial aspect of my new book, “The War on Cops,” is my claim that violent crime is up in many American cities because officers are backing off of proactive policing. I have dubbed this double phenomenon of de-policing and the resulting crime increase the “Ferguson effect,” picking up on a phrase first used by St. Louis’s police chief.

Violence began increasing in the second half of 2014, after two decades of decline. The Major Cities Chiefs Association convened an emergency session in August 2015 to discuss the double-digit surge in violent felonies besetting its member police departments.

The violence continued into fall 2015, prompting Attorney General Loretta Lynch to summon more than 100 police chiefs, mayors and federal prosecutors in another emergency meeting to strategize over the rising homicide rates.

The lesson of reality is quite plain. Minority neighborhoods where crime is prevalent need more strict policing and not less, yet, less policing and greater restrictions in policing are exactly what the Democrats and the radical left are purporting.

I'd call those proposals dishonest, stupid, and bad public policy, and subjecting the most vulnerable to the greatest risk of harm, frankly.

It is time that the Democrats and the radical left own the negative consequences of their 'rainbow and unicorns nirvana' public policies, rather than blame casting on someone else when it is wholly theirs. There's no 'walking away' from these consequences any more.

 

[Casper]

I agree. And the larger half of the split will become the new Republican and Democrat party. I don't believe current Republicans will change and become more mainstream. I believe future Republicans will be more mainstream than their ignorant, close minded parents.

I hope you are correct, But ...

 

[Xilnik]

You claim that 'only a small percentage who are talking about disbanding the police', yet it would appear that a far larger majority of the Democrats and the radical left are calling for, and would be unaffected by, this action and the consequences there of, are calling for exactly that. Who does suffer the consequences of disbanding the police? That would be the minority neighborhoods, to whom the Democrats and the radical left claim to have concern for, but are largely ignoring.



The lesson of reality is quite plain. Minority neighborhoods where crime is prevalent need more strict policing and not less, yet, less policing and greater restrictions in policing are exactly what the Democrats and the radical left are purporting.

I'd call those proposals dishonest, stupid, and bad public policy, and subjecting the most vulnerable to the greatest risk of harm, frankly.

It is time that the Democrats and the radical left own the negative consequences of their 'rainbow and unicorns nirvana' public policies, rather than blame casting on someone else when it is wholly theirs. There's no 'walking away' from these consequences any more.

There are other ways to proactively prevent crime than policing. We need police, but they should not be a catch all for every type of crime. There are other ways to de-escalate situations than bringing in law enforcement primarily trained to treat every situation as one that requires force.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Lmfao, the median line needs to be moved on top of the US Republican Party.

That isn't how this works.
I'm sure Mama June would say the ZERO on her bathroom scale needs to be adjusted +190 pounds but the scale is measuring her weight, not telling her what she likes to hear.

 

[Conaeolos]

:roll: care to define the standards or are we just assigning this as we'd like it?

 

[Bullseye]

Something everyone in US politics should understand: the GOP is the farthest right major party in any developed democracy.

To find analogues you have to look to splinter neo-fascist parties in the EU.

Source?

Also curious why the Liberal Party of Canada and Britain are left off.

How about a comparison between Dems and GOP base on America's political climate? If I recall Pew does one of those every year or two.