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I just voted again. That makes 11. God, I love scientific polls.
danarhea said:OK. Your answer is an honest one, although I dont happen to agree with it. However, it is noteworthy to bring up the fact that there are some here who never fail to claim that polls from ABC, NBC, CBS, and CNN are biased, and that left wing viewership tilt the polls in their favor, but at the same time, would say that the Army Times poll cannot reflect its own viewership. I am not saying that you are one of those. Just that this view is hypocritical, and that some people want it both ways.
there are some here who never fail to claim that polls from ABC, NBC, CBS, and CNN are biased, and that left wing viewership tilt the polls in their favor, but at the same time, would say that the Army Times poll cannot reflect its own viewership.
kid rocks said:this poll is straight from the horses mouth and no doubt very accurate, maybe not very scientific but that makes it all the better,
danarhea said:This poll is from our fighting Joes and Janes themselves.
Rumsfeld stays - 33.31%
Rumsfeld must go - 63.31%
Poll is here.
Kind of flies in the face of what some here are saying about the military supporting Rumsfeld, doesnt it?
cnredd said:This should tell you all you need to know about this poll...
I just voted!!!
For anyone to believe this one is not even funny...This is just sad...
KidRocks said:If it looks like a duck...
The Army Times is not the NY Times!
Face it you r-wingers, this poll is straight from the horses mouth and no doubt very accurate, maybe not very scientific but that makes it all the better, it closely resembles the mood of the American public which is giving President Bush a 32% approval-rating nationwide.
Thank you Army Times!
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You'd be hard opressed to prove dishonesty. You'll have to show that he's not merely mistaken - which I doubt you can do.Stinger said:Talk about it, I think Danarhea just got caught being dishonest again.
danarhea said:1) Care to show the link you went to in order to vote in this poll? Your answer (or lack of one) will be quite illuminating.
2) This is not a biased poll, as you claim. This was one conducted by Army Times. The voters were subscribers to Army Times. You know....... Troops, vets, and their families.
3) You are now accusing our own troops, vets, and their families of being unpatriotic?
oldreliable67 said:And you know this how?
Simon W. Moon said:You'd be hard opressed to prove dishonesty. You'll have to show that he's not merely mistaken - which I doubt you can do.
That's up to him, the cite is clearly not a subscription service as claimed the poll does not claim to be a scientific one, does not say who conducted it what the margin of error is, as opposed to the claims made. It is no different than if I claimed an ORielly online poll was scientific or one of polls here was scientific.Simon W. Moon said:You'd be hard opressed to prove dishonesty. You'll have to show that he's not merely mistaken - which I doubt you can do.
Simon W. Moon said:You'd be hard opressed to prove dishonesty. You'll have to show that he's not merely mistaken - which I doubt you can do.
Kandahar said:This poll is completely unscientific. Why on earth should I trust its results?
danarhea said:This poll is from our fighting Joes and Janes themselves.
Rumsfeld stays - 33.31%
Rumsfeld must go - 63.31%
Poll is here.
Kind of flies in the face of what some here are saying about the military supporting Rumsfeld, doesnt it?
Stinger said:What was your source for the poll and the website?
KidRocks said:If it looks like a duck...
The Army Times is not the NY Times!
Face it you r-wingers, this poll is straight from the horses mouth and no doubt very accurate, maybe not very scientific but that makes it all the better, it closely resembles the mood of the American public which is giving President Bush a 32% approval-rating nationwide.
Thank you Army Times!
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Goobieman said:Yeaaah.. Lets look at the specifics here:
Vietnam-Era flak jackets? Like these:
http://www.olive-drab.com/od_soldiers_gear_body_armor_vietnam.php
I havent seen a sinlge photo of a soldier in Iraq wearing one of these.
Anyone have one? If this is so common, why do we see nothing other than troops wearing this:
http://www.olive-drab.com/od_soldiers_gear_body_armor_pasgt.php
or this:
http://www.olive-drab.com/od_soldiers_gear_body_armor_interceptor.php
Note, speficically the size range for the Interceptor vest:
The unisex Outer Tactical Vest is made in eight sizes from x-small to xxxx-large. OTV NSNs are not in a single range, examples are 8470-01-497-8599 for x-small and 8470-01-518-5894 for xxxx-large. The SAPI plates for the front and back of the vest are available in five sizes from x-small to x-large
Goobieman said:Of course he isnt. He's in the military. he knew when he went in the military he wouldnt make $100k in 6 monthts. NO one in the military makes $100k in 6 monthts and FEW make that in a year.
In other words... that some people make more than him doesnt mean much.
Goobieman said:Ancedotal evidence is taken in the small-scale and in no way reflects the reality in the large scale. Just because you unit suffers casualties far higher than whats reported overall in no way means that the overall casualty reports are wrong.
Goobieman said:If the the above items are the reason for this, it sounds like he left the US a man and has returned as a boy.
Diavo said:there was one guy in our unit that had to wait three-weeks for his 2-pairs of Combat Boots-----because the Army did not make them in his size.
He knew wasn't going to make a $100K, true enough, but that is not the point now is it. It does not mean much to you, but I can assure, he is not the Lone Ranger as it relates to his feelings regarding the Civilian Workers tapped by the Administration to Streamline our Military. As a SSG, he was in the Military before it became privatized by a bunch of Corporate, Chicken Hawks devoted to their friends in the Business World.
Yep, just like me, he remembers when the Army did its own laundry, cooked its own food, built its own roads, delivered its own gas, patched up its wounded, and provide its own security. Had many of the guys in the Military had known they could make this kind of dough as a civilian working for the military, perhaps they would have chose another route? So, really, truth be known, they did not know it was gonna be like this, and animosity towards these civilians seems to be warranted, and not just by my one nephew.
he doesn't want any civilians working in Iraq. he doesn't want any civilians working in Iraq. To be upset with that, is to be a whiner in your thought process?
Its a small fraternity of people who know how that feels-
Oh come on, this poll is from the fighting Joes and Janes themselves.DiavoTheMiavo said:I do Hate polls.