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How did These Idiots End up Electing Our Next President?

99% of the right were not birthers.

Where are you get ng that number?

Trump?s birtherism is now Republican gospel: 72 percent of GOP voters still doubt President Obama?s citizenship - Salon.com

According to the NBC News|SurveyMonkey poll conducted in late June and early July of more than 1,700 registered voters, only 27 percent of Republicans agree with that Obama was born in the U.S. statement, while 41 percent disagree.

Another 31 percent of Republicans expressed their continued confusion on the matter elevated to prominence by the “Birther-in-Chief,” Trump, responding that they neither agreed nor disagreed with the statement:

-barack_obama_was_born_in_the_united_states-

So that number is above 70%.
 

Salon? You're are quoting me an article in Salon? You know, I don't listen to extremist crap on either side but it is so telling when one side quotes crap taken out of extremist media. It clearly shows that you have no interest in honesty. Even Bill O'Reilly didn't believe in the birther crap.
 
Salon? You're are quoting me an article in Salon? You know, I don't listen to extremist crap on either side but it is so telling when one side quotes crap taken out of extremist media. It clearly shows that you have no interest in honesty. Even Bill O'Reilly didn't believe in the birther crap.

Actually it quotes an NBC poll so your ideological purity does not matter to me if you get all shaky at certain websites and just cannot then handle the information.

And where does you 99% figure come from? You have tried to run form that since you first said it.
 
OH!!!!!! So we re talking about ALL ELECTION IN THE HISTORY OF THE USA and not just the November results. Got it loud and clear.

So fine, take all the election results in the USA for all time and show us where MOST people voted for right wingers?

You still have NOT done that no matter what election or elections you want to cherry pick.

Do it. Lets see your numbers of voters so we can judge your statement.
Good lord.

CAN YOU NOT READ WHAT I STATED????????????????? Its ALL, every bit of it, in English.

It was ABOUT RIGHT NOW, the RIGHT WING, just as I stated were voted in by the normal everyday American voter who, I repeat, voted in the RIGHT WING to the amount of control we will have as of Jan 20... which is absolutely mind blowing in depth and breadth.

I included my statement, FULLY, along with the post number, in my own last post.

This is why you folks lost. This kind of disingeniousness is why you would vote for a loser and criminal in the first place. This is why you will CONTINUE to lose into the future. YOUR side not only lost, your side IS LOST. To use and agree with dishonest practices, then pretend you cannot understand simple declarative statements...so you will not have to admit to yourself that YOU are wrong.

Pitiful.

DONE. PERIOD.
 
Good lord.

CAN YOU NOT READ WHAT I STATED????????????????? Its ALL, every bit of it, in English.

It was ABOUT RIGHT NOW,

Its difficult when you are trying to pretend that you don't want to name a specific election to test your statements truth. I wonder why you re doing that?

RIGHT NOW - so the voters you referred are the voters in the most recent election. So we are back to you taking the November results and showing us that MOST voters voted for right wing candidates.

Or are you claiming RIGHT NOW means the members elected to public positions like Congress or the legislature and we would have to go back to their elections?

Please state clearly and unambiguously which election or elections your claim applies to so we can get that straight and then move on the claim of MOST.

Can you do that?
 
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Its difficult when you are trying to pretend that you don't want to name a specific election to test your statements truth. I wonder why you re doing that?

RIGHT NOW - so the voters you referred are the voters in the most recent election. So we are back to you taking the November results and showing us that MOST voters voted for right wing candidates.
That is just foolishness.

I said, and I SAID IT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING STATEMENT THAT YOU QUOTED AND QUESTIONED, that as of Jan 20th we will have so much control and it will be by the normal folks voting in right wingers.

This is my quote.

“Oh, and I almost forgot to add, most normal folks voted for right wingers... we, as of Jan 20 [ and actually before as Trump has ripped the presidency right out of lazy boy's weak grip]we control the entire Federal government, 33 state governorships, 68 out of 99 legislatures [read super majority at the state level] with 23 states total control like at the Fed level.*

Scratch your head on that one, 'cause that represents, in this republic, the new normal.
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Post 99

As you have shown yourself to be woefully incapable of answering even simple questions, I will ask and then even answer FOR YOU, taking all only and directly from my original statement which is what you quoted and challenged and which is quoted above in full along with the post number so you can verify.

Nailed down, tight...precisely by eliminating any chance for further obfuscation.


1.Where do I state only the current election? Nowhere
2.What do I state with regards to most normal folk? most normal folks voted for right wingers.
3.What did I say right wingers will control, as of Jan 20? we control the entire Federal government, 33 state governorships, 68 out of 99 legislatures [read super majority at the state level] with 23 states total control like at the Fed level
4.What did I say this represents, in this republic? the new normal.

Why must you folks constantly feel it is in your best interests to try to get around the truth and, at the same time, waste everybody else's time in so doing? Don't you think that, in a sense, robbery?

Never mind, that would overload the circuit board probably.
 
most normal folks voted for right wingers.

Ask you again about this statement: Please state clearly and unambiguously which election or elections your claim applies to so we can get that straight and then move on the claim of MOST.

Can you do that?
 
Is Salon.com the best you can do????? What next? Motherjones? I can pretty much guarantee you that the 72% number is completely phony. And again, it was the Hillary camp that invented the "birther" movement. Not Trump.



the poll was from NBC/Survey Monkey.
 
How did NBC/survey monkey do on calling the 2016 presidential election? :lamo:stooges:stars:

I think they were within a couple of points within the margin of error. Their Nov7th election eve poll had Clinton by 6. She won the popular vote - which was what was being measured by 2 points.So that four point difference was the normal margin of error.

Sop since you brought it up - I would be happy to concede a difference of 4 points in the birther poll from NBC. that puts the number of Republicans believing Obama was not constitutionally quaffed by birth to be President at 68% instead of 72.

That is still a long long long long long way from you claim that 99% of them did NOT believe in it.
 
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He reuses to provide data for his 99% claim and at the same time rejects polling simply because he gets shaky about the source the NBC poll was printed in.

He has nothing and knows it.

Welcome to the neo-Right. They will only believe what they want to believe from here on out. This will be fun.
 
Welcome to the neo-Right. They will only believe what they want to believe from here on out. This will be fun.

Did he explain you where that 99% figure came from he claimed was fact ?

Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
99% of the right were not birthers.
 
Ask you again about this statement: Please state clearly and unambiguously which election or elections your claim applies to so we can get that straight and then move on the claim of MOST.

Can you do that?
Yes.

ALL ELECTIONS that HAVE CURRENT, and AS OF Jan 20, 2017, you know, this upcoming year, RIGHT WING OFFICE HOLDERS holding ALMOST ALL THE FRIGGING POLITICAL POWER IN THESE, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, various zip and area codes, ON WHAT IS COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE PLANET EARTH, Milky Way, in the only visible UNIVERSE.

AS STATED IN LANGUAGE ANYBODY SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO UNDERSTAND, HAD THEY THE ABILITY or HAD THEY MADE ANY EFFORT, WHATSOEVER.
 
Yes.

ALL ELECTIONS that HAVE CURRENT, and AS OF Jan 20, 2017, you know, this upcoming year, RIGHT WING OFFICE HOLDERS holding ALMOST ALL THE FRIGGING POLITICAL POWER IN THESE, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, various zip and area codes, ON WHAT IS COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE PLANET EARTH, Milky Way, in the only visible UNIVERSE.

AS STATED IN LANGUAGE ANYBODY SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO UNDERSTAND, HAD THEY THE ABILITY or HAD THEY MADE ANY EFFORT, WHATSOEVER.

Why are you including only what you describe as RIGHT WING OFFICE HOLDERS? Your claim was that most people voted for right wingers. Are you then intentionally trying to exclude anybody not right wing from the math? If you do that the evaluation of your term MOST cannot be made.

And again, which election should we start with ? You keep citing members of Congress and the state legislature and governors and presidents. So we should start with the first election that put any of them in office? Is that your contention?
 
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I think they were within a couple of points within the margin of error. Their Nov7th election eve poll had Clinton by 6. She won the popular vote - which was what was being measured by 2 points.So that four point difference was the normal margin of error.

Sop since you brought it up - I would be happy to concede a difference of 4 points in the birther poll from NBC. that puts the number of Republicans believing Obama was not constitutionally quaffed by birth to be President at 68% instead of 72.

That is still a long long long long long way from you claim that 99% of them did NOT believe in it.

What you should have learned from the 2016 is that living and dying by opinion polls is foolish. Virtually every pollster gave Trump no path to victory, right up to election day. Cherry picking one or two polls that were closer but still off by more then the advertised margin of error will not help your argument.
 
What you should have learned from the 2016 is that living and dying by opinion polls is foolish. Virtually every pollster gave Trump no path to victory, right up to election day. Cherry picking one or two polls that were closer but still off by more then the advertised margin of error will not help your argument.

I gave you the poll you asked about and it was within the margin of error.
 
Why are you including only what you describe as RIGHT WING OFFICE HOLDERS? Your claim was that most people voted for right wingers. Are you then intentionally trying to exclude anybody not right wing from the math? If you do that the evaluation of your term MOST cannot be made.

And again, which election should we start with ? You keep citing members of Congress and the state legislature and governors and presidents. So we should start with the first election that put any of them in office? Is that your contention?
Exactly which elections are you talking about?

And, while we are at it:

Which offices? What exactly do you mean by the word start? Define exclude, please make sure you do not leave anything out. Be specific.
 
Did he explain you where that 99% figure came from he claimed was fact ?

I figure he pulled it out of his ass. But, he might have heard it on some radio show.
 
Exactly which elections are you talking about?

And, while we are at it:

Which offices? What exactly do you mean by the word start? Define exclude, please make sure you do not leave anything out. Be specific.

election going back to form the composition of current office holders.
 
You guys are too funny. First it is 73% and now it is 41%. Do YOU want to try again?

Either one is not 99%. And its you who needs to START trying. So far you have said NOTHING about where you got this statistic.
 
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