How Congress can fight Hamas's use of human shields

[oneworld2]

The OP asks what Congress can do to stop the use of human shields by Hamas.

Hamas.

Not the IDF.

Your fear of referencing that which you chose to cite now it undermines your claim pretty much sums up your entire commentary on this subject....................... nonsense based on prejudice

 

[oneworld2]

If the US govt. ceases to give aid (financial and other) to Israel, Hamas is going to quit lugging rockets at Israel?

Cuz Israel will be precluded from retaliating in response?

Yeah, right.

The Israeli state intel/military people have already acknowledged that Hamas can keep a ceasefire agreement, they just seem incapable, much like yourself, of seeing their own state terrorism of the Palestinians as the initial reasoning for the requirement of a ceasefire in the first place.

Stop the US veto that enables that state terrorism to carry on unhindered / unaccountable, and against world opinion, stop the bankrolling of the means to prosecute it and things would be vastly different. Israel always has the right to self defence BUT so do the Palestinians, that you think they don't is in keeping with your selective and biased commentary here imo

 

[oneworld2]

If not the USA govt, then it would be another govt. How comical! I don't share your bias.

Not all govts have a UNSC veto, I'm not surprised to see you not seeming to see the significance of that. We all have biases but yours are obviously based on no apparent clue about much of the subject matter being discussed here.

 

[Chagos]

If the right of self defense is conceded to Israel, what is there to be argued about here?

 

[Chagos]

Is having one's bias based on cluelessness the same as having one's bias based on unconditional support of the Hamas agenda?

 

[oneworld2]

If the right of self defense is conceded to Israel, what is there to be argued about here?

That you fail to see it completely vindicates every charge of selevctive bias I have levelled at your commentary......thanks for confirming it to everyone else here in the above

 

[oneworld2]

Is having one's bias based on cluelessness the same as having one's bias based on unconditional support of the Hamas agenda?

The " cluelessness" is to be found in your commentary so you would be best answering that question yourself. You're just blowing smoke with yet another desperate accusation in the second part, so it will be justifiably ignored and chuckled at

 

[Fledermaus]

Your fear of referencing that which you chose to cite now it undermines your claim pretty much sums up your entire commentary on this subject....................... nonsense based on prejudice

More irrelevant prattle.

 

[Chagos]

More irrelevant prattle.

Football to watch.

Heck, even if it were Hicksville against Craptown, it would merit more attention than what we get to see above.

 

[oneworld2]

More irrelevant prattle.

So, iyo, the definition of what it is to be a human shield, in a debate about the use of human shields, is " irrelevant prattle".....................comedy gold!!!

 

[Utility Man]

..........

But we are told they can't be human shields because they weren't forced.

I have to wonder which Kindergarten principal volunteered their school.

Human shields.

 

[Individual]

Not all govts have a UNSC veto, I'm not surprised to see you not seeming to see the significance of that. We all have biases but yours are obviously based on no apparent clue about much of the subject matter being discussed here.

The subject matter being "How Congress can fight Hamas's use of human shields", why should our Congress even try?

 

[oneworld2]

The subject matter being "How Congress can fight Hamas's use of human shields", why should our Congress even try?

How about they don't actually care about people being used, or not, as human shields period?

If it were the case they would have surely been intrumental in ending the IDF's, who they bankroll recall, use of them over many years. They weren't and it was ended by a cluster of HRs groups that had it forced upon them via a long court battle.

 

[Individual]

How about they don't actually care about people being used, or not, as human shields period?

If it were the case they would have surely been intrumental in ending the IDF's, who they bankroll recall, use of them over many years. They weren't and it was ended by a cluster of HRs groups that had it forced upon them via a long court battle.

Whether they care or not is irrelevant, our Congress has no power over what Hamas does or does not do.

 

[Fledermaus]

How about they don't actually care about people being used, or not, as human shields period?

How about not speaking for others.

If it were the case they would have surely been intrumental in ending the IDF's, who they bankroll recall, use of them over many years. They weren't and it was ended by a cluster of HRs groups that had it forced upon them via a long court battle.

Hamas.

That is the subject of the thread.

 

[oneworld2]

Whether they care or not is irrelevant, our Congress has no power over what Hamas does or does not do.

I think that the idea of whether or not they care is important to the notion of whether they should do something or not. If you don't care you tend not to do stuff about a certain issue, when you do care you are more inclined to do stuff. The article is also serving the PR of western propaganda by inferring that they care when it is apparent they don't

What Israel does has an impact on what Hamas does. Congress can influence what the state of Israel does, so indirectly they can have an influence on the actions of Hamas

 

[Fledermaus]

I think that the idea of whether or not they care is important to the notion of whether they should do something or not. If you don't care you tend not to do stuff about a certain issue, when you do care you are more inclined to do stuff. The article is also serving the PR of western propaganda by inferring that they care when it is apparent they don't

What Israel does has an impact on what Hamas does. Congress can influence what the state of Israel does, so indirectly they can have an influence on the actions of Hamas

How Congress can fight Hamas's use of human shields​

 

[oneworld2]

How about not speaking for others.

Their inactions, already mentioned and ignored by yourself, speak volumes about them, so the charge is a valid one.

Hamas.

That is the subject of the thread.

Not Congress? Not human shields?


Your ongoing attempts to restrict debate based on your fear of how the thread might backfire away from Hamas is only trumped by your comment about the " irrelevance" of talking about the definition of HSs in a thread containing claims of HSs

 

[oneworld2]

How Congress can fight Hamas's use of human shields​

 

[Fledermaus]

How Congress can fight Hamas's use of human shields

Subject of this thread.

 

[Fledermaus]

Their inactions, already mentioned and ignored by yourself, speak volumes about them, so the charge is a valid one.

Not Congress? Not human shields?

Your ongoing attempts to restrict debate based on your fear of how the thread might backfire away from Hamas is only trumped by your comment about the " irrelevance" of talking about the definition of HSs in a thread containing claims of HSs

How Congress can fight Hamas's use of human shields

Read. Comprehend.

 

[Individual]

I think that the idea of whether or not they care is important to the notion of whether they should do something or not. If you don't care you tend not to do stuff about a certain issue, when you do care you are more inclined to do stuff. The article is also serving the PR of western propaganda by inferring that they care when it is apparent they don't

What Israel does has an impact on what Hamas does. Congress can influence what the state of Israel does, so indirectly they can have an influence on the actions of Hamas

As does Hamas have an impact on what Israel does.
Let them work out their differences on their own.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

A ceasefire has halted for now the Hamas rocket attacks on Israeli civilians. But the conflict continues, including through campaigns at the United Nations and in the media to attribute victory and apportion blame.

During the May 2021 conflict, Hamas reportedly used civilians as human shields to protect its military assets from Israeli counterstrikes. For example, Hamas reportedly located military tunnels under a school and adjacent to a kindergarten, a mosque, and a hospital. It reportedly placed weapons stockpiles in several different houses and apartment buildings, situated pivotal intelligence research and operations facilities in the same building as the Associated Press and other foreign journalists, and installed its military intelligence headquarters next to a kindergarten. Hamas also reportedly used civilian apartment buildings for military planning and operations, positioned rocket launch sites next to civilian buildings, and situated weapons factories in the heart of densely populated civilian areas.

Following the ceasefire, a resolution, passed by the UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC), established a one-sided commission of inquiry designed to whitewash the use of human shields and otherwise portray the conflict’s tragic loss of life as entirely Israel’s fault. The Trump administration had withdrawn from the UNHRC in 2018, accusing the forum of having a “chronic anti-Israel bias.” But the Biden administration announced in February that it would “re-engage immediately and robustly” with the Council, explaining that a “vacuum of U.S. leadership” did “nothing” to reform the UNHRC’s “disproportionate focus on Israel.”

How Congress can fight Hamas’s use of human shields

The Trump administration did not fulfill its statutory obligation, and the Biden administration has not yet done so.

thehill.com

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Looks like others are seeing Hamas for what they are.

But we are told they can't be human shields because they weren't forced.

I have to wonder which Kindergarten principal volunteered their school.

The way to end this would be for Israel to ignore the human shields, launch full retaliation, then send commandos into Gaza, arrest hamas leaders, and execute them for the murder of the kids used as shields

 

[Irredentist]

The way to end this would be for Israel to ignore the human shields, launch full retaliation, then send commandos into Gaza, arrest hamas leaders, and execute them for the murder of the kids used as shields

I'll put that in the category of ideas that definitely wouldn't end the war.

 

[Irredentist]

A ceasefire has halted for now the Hamas rocket attacks on Israeli civilians. But the conflict continues, including through campaigns at the United Nations and in the media to attribute victory and apportion blame.

During the May 2021 conflict, Hamas reportedly used civilians as human shields to protect its military assets from Israeli counterstrikes. For example, Hamas reportedly located military tunnels under a school and adjacent to a kindergarten, a mosque, and a hospital. It reportedly placed weapons stockpiles in several different houses and apartment buildings, situated pivotal intelligence research and operations facilities in the same building as the Associated Press and other foreign journalists, and installed its military intelligence headquarters next to a kindergarten. Hamas also reportedly used civilian apartment buildings for military planning and operations, positioned rocket launch sites next to civilian buildings, and situated weapons factories in the heart of densely populated civilian areas.

Following the ceasefire, a resolution, passed by the UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC), established a one-sided commission of inquiry designed to whitewash the use of human shields and otherwise portray the conflict’s tragic loss of life as entirely Israel’s fault. The Trump administration had withdrawn from the UNHRC in 2018, accusing the forum of having a “chronic anti-Israel bias.” But the Biden administration announced in February that it would “re-engage immediately and robustly” with the Council, explaining that a “vacuum of U.S. leadership” did “nothing” to reform the UNHRC’s “disproportionate focus on Israel.”

How Congress can fight Hamas’s use of human shields

The Trump administration did not fulfill its statutory obligation, and the Biden administration has not yet done so.

thehill.com

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Looks like others are seeing Hamas for what they are.

But we are told they can't be human shields because they weren't forced.

I have to wonder which Kindergarten principal volunteered their school.

I'd say that the best way to deal with human shields is not to shoot at them.