From the founding of the Kingdom of Poland in 1025 through to the early years of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth created in 1569, Poland was the most tolerant country in Europe.[4] Known as paradisus iudaeorum (Latin for "Paradise of the Jews"),[5] it became a shelter for persecuted and expelled European Jewish communities and the home to the world's largest Jewish community of the time. According to some sources, about three-quarters of the world's Jews lived in Poland by the middle of the 16th century.[6][7][8] With the weakening of the Commonwealth and growing religious strife (due to the Protestant Reformation and Catholic Counter-Reformation), Poland's traditional tolerance[9] began to wane from the 17th century onward.
Jewish losses in those events were high, estimated by some historians to be close to 500,000...
In the aftermath of the Great War localized conflicts engulfed Eastern Europe between 1917 and 1919. Many attacks were launched against Jews during the Russian Civil War, the Polish-Ukrainian War, and the Polish–Soviet War ending with the Treaty of Riga. Almost half of the Jewish men perceived to have supported the Bolshevik Russia in these incidents were in their 20s.[70] Just after the end of World War I, the West became alarmed by reports about alleged massive pogroms in Poland against Jews.
The result of the concerns over the fate of Poland's Jews was a series of explicit clauses in the Versailles Treaty signed by the Western powers, and President Paderewski,[78] protecting the rights of minorities in new Poland including Germans. In 1921, Poland's March Constitution gave the Jews the same legal rights as other citizens and guaranteed them religious tolerance and freedom of religious holidays.[79]
The number of Jews immigrating to Poland from Ukraine and Soviet Russia during the interwar period grew rapidly.
Complex and long history shaped Polish attitudes towards the Jews and Jewish attitudes towards the Poles, but the anti-Jewish sentiment in Poland had reached its zenith in the years leading to the Second World War.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Poland#The_Partitions_of_Poland
This is seriously true. From what I have been reading, if there was a driving force behind hatred of the Jews in Poland before the Nazis unleashed it for real, it was the Catholic Church.Sorry but the problem is not Poles or Russians or Swedes... it is the Christian Church and especially the Catholic Church.
Yes. Jews lived reasonably well in the Middle East until about the mid-1950's.The Christian world has been in denial for centuries as it hid the dark truth of its intolerance of other faiths including branches within its own.
The religious wars of the 1400s to arguably 1945, we're driven on hatred and bigotry.
The irony is, that the only places Jews were safe and near equals was in the Islamic world until the end of the Ottoman Empire. Many don't know, but the Prime minister post in the Ottoman Empire was more than often held by a Jew.
In Poland, Jews were hunted as the OP pointed out, but that was not unique to Poland. It happened everywhere to one degree or another. Spain purged it's Jews pretty much during the time period. In France up to 40% of the population was slaughtered because of religion and a lot of Jews got killed in this mass slaughter.. the list goes on.
So now we are in the 21st century and the same intolerance of other faiths still exists in the Christian faith... both openly and behind closed doors.
But saying all this.. intolerance of other faiths is hardly unique to Christians.
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Hungary yes.. but again it is the Catholic Church.... not the modern day one but historically... as in back when Church and state were often the same thing.This is seriously true. From what I have been reading, if there was a driving force behind hatred of the Jews in Poland before the Nazis unleashed it for real, it was the Catholic Church.
Yes. Jews lived reasonably well in the Middle East until about the mid-1950's.
A country often left out but should not be since it is back to being up to its old tricks is Hungary.
-The irony is, that the only places Jews were safe and near equals was in the Islamic world until the end of the Ottoman Empire. Many don't know, but the Prime minister post in the Ottoman Empire was more than often held by a Jew.
In Poland, Jews were hunted as the OP pointed out, but that was not unique to Poland. It happened everywhere to one degree or another. Spain purged it's Jews pretty much during the time period. In France up to 40% of the population was slaughtered because of religion and a lot of Jews got killed in this mass slaughter.. the list goes on.
This is seriously true. From what I have been reading, if there was a driving force behind hatred of the Jews in Poland before the Nazis unleashed it for real, it was the Catholic Church.
Yes. Jews lived reasonably well in the Middle East until about the mid-1950's.
A country often left out but should not be since it is back to being up to its old tricks is Hungary.
Hungary yes.. but again it is the Catholic Church.... not the modern day one but historically... as in back when Church and state were often the same thing.
Basically what we call anti-semitism today is ancient catholic church propoganda that has become part of lore and society.
Not true at all. Forced to pay a tax to pray in one's own faith is not living reasonably well. The large Jewish populations of Morocco, Iran, Syria and smaller pockets elsewhere started fleeing during WWII, eventually settling in Israel, parts of southern Europe, and the Americas. More than half of Morocco's Jewish population, a third of Morocco, settled in Brazil. You can hear more Arabic than Portuguese in the Rug Markets of Brasilia and Rio. There are few muslims. It was the influence of the Eastern Orthodox Church which sparked and carried through antisemitism in both Russia and Poland. Today, the Eastern Orthodox Church is the largest competitor other than atheism, for the Catholic Church in Poland.
I've already answered the nonsense about the mideast.
The Magyar have always considered themselves above all of Europe, and still maintain their own presence in Hungary. Old tricks? You neglect the force and culture of the Austro Hungarian Empire, whose demise and failure from within set the stage and the excuse for WWI.
Antisemitism in the Arab world increased greatly in the 20th century, for several reasons: the breakdown of the Ottoman Empire and traditional Islamic society; European influence, brought about by Western imperialism and Arab Christians;[1] Nazi propaganda;[2] resentment over Jewish nationalism (see Zionism); and the rise of Arab nationalism.
Traditionally, Jews in the Muslim world were considered to be People of the Book and were given dhimmi status. They were afforded relative security against persecution, provided they did not contest the inferior social and legal status imposed on them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Arab_world
Everything is relative. And, relative to Holocaust and pogroms, the anti-semitism in the Middle East pre 1950 was a walk in the park....albeit a walk they had to pay for which also required them to stay on the marked paths.
Bold: Not the only Jew-Hating nut to back the Nazis back then.Over the centuries there were many physical violent attacks against Jews in the islamic communities. But none of it reached the proportions witnesses in Europe, until the rise of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem who advised the Nazis to commit the final solution. Plus he is the grandfather of modern terrorism against the US and Europe. No slouch at hate, nor the use of violence for killing all and any, including fellow muslims. A infected pimple on God's rump.
Now the shoe is on the other foot, Israelis are as good at killing and torture as everyone else, if not better, and the world cries foul. Too bad the world taught Jews how to kill to protect themselves, and take personal pleasure in doing so,
If you bother to read the koran in Arabic, with it nuances, you realize Jews were not people of the book, but the preceding Samaritans, who are not Jews despite wiki entries to the contrary, who's supernatural powers true or not scared the crap out of uncle Mo were so cited. The Samaritans had a monotheistic religion, partly adopted by the Jews, but they were extant long before Jews were playing shepherd in the desert. With their own temple, built on Mount Gerizim when Alexander held Egypt and its substates. The Jews when they arrived in Canaan did their best to demonize the Samaritans, seeing them as an established competition. Democrats vs Republicans, in either direction. Giving the fable of the Good Samaritan a very different meaning,
Never trust a wiki,
Bold: Not the only Jew-Hating nut to back the Nazis back then.
Not guilty.
While antisemitism was not unknown in Poland, there was nothing equivalent to the systematic industrial scale genocide that the Nazis carried out.
...on Polish soil.
I really do not see how that can be swept under the rug.
After Poland was occupied by Nazi Germany. Not of their own accord.
This is most certainly true. But, we also know a lot of Poles participated in humiliating the Jews, and many of them did not exactly make the Nazi persecution of Jews more difficult.
Trains kept running on time, right through the heart of Poland, for example. And, no one living in towns near the death camps: Sobibor, Majdenik, Treblinka, Belzic, Chelmno, or Auschwitz did a whole lot to disrupt the flow. In fact, they did nothing.
But only Poland had Death Camps, six of them to be exact.Many Polish did aid the Nazis. So did many French, Dutch, Russians, Yugoslavs, Italians, Greeks, Hungarians, Romanians, Danes, Norwegians, Ukrainians, Baltics. There were collaborators in every German occupied country.
I'd have to read up on that before I can comment. And, I will.I can't believe you're actually saying that.
The The Żegota Council for the Aid of the Jews was founded in September 1942 by Polish people trying to save Jews. In fact of the Polish Jews that survived the war, nearly half of them (~50,000) were because of the Zegota Council. Polish people organized breakouts from concentration camps, uprisings, and smuggled Jews out of Ghettos.
Many Poles gave their lives to save their Jewish brothers and sisters. To suggest otherwise is downright disgusting.
But only Poland had Death Camps, six of them to be exact.
I'd have to read up on that before I can comment.
Note: You have to admit, being the home of six death camps where close to 6 million Jews were slaughtered does raise eyebrows. At the very least, it makes people wonder: "why there?" And, I have very little doubt that there was more to it than, "well, that's where all the Jews were."
Almost all of them Jews.And even though only 60,000 Poles were killed during the German invasion, by the end of the war there would be 6 million dead Poles; victims of the Nazi occupation.
Soviets, yes. They actually beat them back.The Polish, Yugoslavs, and Soviets resisted the Germans far greater than any other occupied territory within the Reich. That should be remembered before you go off accusing the Poles of allowing the Holocaust to happen.
No, actually, I don't. Poland was strategically significant because it was closest in fact to the largest populations of Jews in Europe, in Poland and Russia. If it had been more convenient to put the camps in say, Greece, the Nazis would've done that.
Almost all of them Jews.
Yugoslavs? Depends on who we're talking about. Partisans yes. Chetniks not so much. And, the Ustashe Croats were probably just as bad, if not worse, than the Nazis, especially when it came to murdering Serbs. I'd probably not bring up Yugoslavia in this discussion, if you know what I mean.
Non-Jew Poles resisted alright, for about a week.
Auschwitz is a long way from Budapest. Just saying.
After Poland was occupied by Nazi Germany. Not of their own accord.
Many Polish did aid the Nazis. So did many French, Dutch, Russians, Yugoslavs, Italians, Greeks, Hungarians, Romanians, Danes, Norwegians, Ukrainians, Baltics. There were collaborators in every German occupied country.
I can't believe you're actually saying that.
The The Żegota Council for the Aid of the Jews was founded in September 1942 by Polish people trying to save Jews. In fact of the Polish Jews that survived the war, nearly half of them (~50,000) were because of the Zegota Council. Polish people organized breakouts from concentration camps, uprisings, and smuggled Jews out of Ghettos.
Many Poles gave their lives to save their Jewish brothers and sisters. To suggest otherwise is downright disgusting.
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