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Jury talked Stand Your Ground before not-guilty Zimmerman verdict, juror says | Naked PoliticsI have not seen where B37 cited SYG. Please provide a citation or link.
Okay, well he's not in prison now. And given that he is the Attorney General, you should probably care about what he has to say since his actions might affect you. But, if you don't care, then that's better for him because that's one less person he has to deal with in his quest to reexamine SYG.
True. While I support Holder's argument, I won't put much stock in his claims until I see actual actions being taken.I do agree with the sentiment on a law that allows me to provoke an altercation and even to throw the first punch, and then to shoot someone because I fear for my life after the victim defends themself. Even if you do not agree zimmerman did that, it is still something that can happen under the law which IMO is way too open.
I really do not take this as amounting to much more than a political point being made to a bunch of people who were outraged. We know they are not going to get much done at all if they couldn't even get background checks on all gun purchases to keep felons and crazies from buying guns. It is up to the state legislatures and that means florida voters. I am not terribly outraged by something any politician is going to do when speaking before a group with political ideals. I will save any outrage or approval for when some action is taken and not a bunch of hot air.
Okay.No,not "Oh well". It's time we started pointing these things out to those who would assume authority they do not have. I'll be sure to bring it up with our representative when I see in about two weeks.
Fair enough.If you read what I wrote, you'd see I said I didn't care what he had to SAY. Actions are a different matter, but that wasn't being discussed.
Well, I think there should be a balance between self-defense and excessive use of force. SYG tips the balance to the latter. I can't support that.
From the LA Times:
It has begun.
What do you think?
I think that laws restricting one from exercising reasonable self defense are asinine. Every situation is different and sometimes retreating is the absolute LAST thing you should do. Just to give a hypothetical - you're in a bar and a group of four people are giving you a hard time. Three of those people head out the front door but the third keeps on verbally harassing and threatening you. Is it really a good idea to leave the bar?
From the LA Times:
It has begun.
What do you think?
That Chicago gangster can go **** himself.
LOL !!!
What has begun ? The Criminal AG responds to people who've completley bought into a huge manufactured False Narrative ?
Wow.....when Black young men and ACTUAL Children are dying from gunshot wounds on a almost daily basis in the South Side of Chicago.
What a pathetically corrupt and just stupid ideology.
Take the rights away from private citizens to defend theirselves, their property and their families from the scum the thug culture creates because the NAACP aren't happy with the verdict.
Unreal.
The only good thing is a administration this corrupt will eventually collapse in on itself as voters take note of the disaster thats happening right before them.
Eric Holder obviously hates Hispanics.From the LA Times:
It has begun.
What do you think?
From the article
Is he out of his mind?
what he is saying is tuck tail and run, take it in the rear, runaway and allow those who bring violence to your doorstep to know that they can push the envelop to the extreme because your first reaction is going to be FLIGHT not FIGHT. He's saying allow the predators to stay predators and for you to always be the prey...
I'll have none of it.
"He could have ... When George confronted him, and he could have walked away and gone home.
The below quote is from the juror interviewed on anderson cooper
So George in a locked car and armed with the police on the way ... could not take pause and follow instructions from law enforcement yet ... the juror says Trayvon should have "When George confronted him, and he could have walked away and gone home " ...?
In bold are her exact words.
Do you think unarmed teens being followed have different fear reactions than a husky big guy who knows the police are en-route with a car and armed? We do not even know any account but George's fishy tale.
Deflection ... do you agree with the juror that Trayvon should have ..."When George confronted him, and he could have walked away and gone home".
The forensics do not add up. The verdict was not based on forensics according to the juror but because they thought George was scared.
I'm not deflecting; I'm stating facts. Your opinion doesn't count, nor does mine, and we now have the words of one of six jurors. That's all. I am satisfied that the jury did a thoughtful job and am therefore accept the verdict. You should too--because the verdict is in.
Martin is dead because he made the mistake of attacking an armed man.eace
I'm not deflecting; I'm stating facts. Your opinion doesn't count, nor does mine, and we now have the words of one of six jurors. That's all. I am satisfied that the jury did a thoughtful job and am therefore accept the verdict. You should too--because the verdict is in.
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