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Enola

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Hitting. Or physical confrontation. Whatever you wanna call it. Here is the scenario:

Woman berates, insults, verbally and maybe physically abuses her boyfriend/spouse non stop. It's a continual spitting/foul mouthed/rabid assault and she may even smack him in the face or body now and then (open or closed fist..doesn't matter...or even throwing something at him and it hits home) and this continual smacking around leads to him finally have enough and punch her back. Is this understandable? Or in your opinion, a man NEVER hits a women no matter the reason? He is stronger than her, so just how far is over the line in him either snapping and slapping her back (open hand) or going hog wild and beating the snot out of her?

I'm curious if the standard opinion of "do not ever hit a woman" is still firm nowadays as it was when I was a kid.
 
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If she's being physical with him she has no expectation of him not to be physical with her. Plain and simple, and in this scenario, the bitch probably deserves it.
 
Understandable.

Also inexcusable.
 
Enola said:
Hitting. Or physical confrontation. Whatever you wanna call it. Here is the scenario:

Woman berates, insults, verbally and maybe physically abuses her boyfriend/spouse non stop. It's a continual spitting/foul mouthed/rabid assault and she may even smack him in the face or body now and then (open or closed fist..doesn't matter...or even throwing something at him and it hits home) and this continual smacking around leads to him finally have enough and punch her back. Is this understandable? Or in your opinion, a man NEVER hits a women no matter the reason? He is stronger than her, so just how far is over the line in him either snapping and slapping her back (open hand) or going hog wild and beating the snot out of her?

I'm curious if the standard opinion of "do not ever hit a woman" is still firm nowadays as it was when I was a kid.
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Never hit a woman.. and never sh*t in your own nest.. If you can't negotiate your differences rationally, walk away. Male or female you NEVER own another.
 
Sounds like a crazy situation. Do not hit back and get some fresh air to think of the options available to the individual and the relationship.
 
Yes, it's understandable. I despise a woman who insists on acting like a wild banshee, then hides beind her sexuality to demand gentlemanly behavior from a man.
 
Connery said:
Sounds like a crazy situation. Do not hit back and get some fresh air to think of the options available to the individual and the relationship.
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Relationships are created one day at a time.. every day..

Negotiate, negotiate, negotiate.. or leave.
 
sharon said:
Never hit a woman.. and never sh*t in your own nest.. If you can't negotiate your differences rationally, walk away. Male or female you NEVER own another.
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until you are married, and then you do.

which is why you don't marry on a f'ing whim.
 
cpwill said:
until you are married, and then you do.

which is why you don't marry on a f'ing whim.
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That's the biggest mistake of all.. to think that you OWN the other once you get married and the relationship is frozen or set........ It is NEVER set..

Its created anew every single day.
 
sharon said:
Relationships are created one day at a time.. every day..

Negotiate, negotiate, negotiate.. or leave.
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Negotiate what getting spit on? slapped in the face? No there is no excuse for that from either party. I would think about what options I have available in the form of therapy for one party, counseling for both, is it a safe environment? There are many issues at hand in this situation which must be processed.
 
Connery said:
Negotiate what getting spit on? slapped in the face? No there is no excuse for that from either party. I would think about what options I have available in the form of therapy for one party, counseling for both, is it a safe environment? There are many issues at hand in this situation which must be processed.
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By the time it gets to spitting and name calling.. you're done... Leave.

You have failed utterly at the basics.
 
Raise your voice at me and I will raise my hand at you. Raise your hand at me and I will raise my gun at you. It's as simple as that.

I don't raise my voice or my hands at anyone, and I will not suffer to have someone raise theirs at me.
 
sharon said:
By the time it gets to spitting and name calling.. you're done... Leave.

You have failed utterly at the basics.
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Sharon the OP is as follows

Enola said:
Hitting. Or physical confrontation. Whatever you wanna call it. Here is the scenario:

Woman berates, insults, verbally and maybe physically abuses her boyfriend/spouse non stop. It's a continual spitting/foul mouthed/rabid assault and she may even smack him in the face or body now and then (open or closed fist..doesn't matter...or even throwing something at him and it hits home) and this continual smacking around leads to him finally have enough and punch her back. Is this understandable? Or in your opinion, a man NEVER hits a women no matter the reason? He is stronger than her, so just how far is over the line in him either snapping and slapping her back (open hand) or going hog wild and beating the snot out of her?

I'm curious if the standard opinion of "do not ever hit a woman" is still firm nowadays as it was when I was a kid.
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According these actions have already occurred. Now you want to leave? What happened to negotiate?
 
Viktyr Korimir said:
Raise your voice at me and I will raise my hand at you. Raise your hand at me and I will raise my gun at you. It's as simple as that.

I don't raise my voice or my hands at anyone, and I will not suffer to have someone raise theirs at me.
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Do you negotiate your way thru relationship or just hand down macho ultimatums?
 
sharon said:
Do you negotiate your way thru relationship or just hand down macho ultimatums?
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If I won't raise my voice, don't you think the only option I have left to me is negotiation?
 
Connery said:
Sharon the OP is as follows


According these actions have already occurred. Now you want to leave? What happened to negotiate?
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Negotiation is the recognition that you don't OWN the other... Its about respect and true affection.

Why would you EVER want to hurt someone you love? If you win , you lose.

Whether you are male or female.. the creation of your ongoing friendship is most important.
 
Enola said:
Hitting. Or physical confrontation. Whatever you wanna call it. Here is the scenario:

Woman berates, insults, verbally and maybe physically abuses her boyfriend/spouse non stop. It's a continual spitting/foul mouthed/rabid assault and she may even smack him in the face or body now and then (open or closed fist..doesn't matter...or even throwing something at him and it hits home) and this continual smacking around leads to him finally have enough and punch her back. Is this understandable? Or in your opinion, a man NEVER hits a women no matter the reason? He is stronger than her, so just how far is over the line in him either snapping and slapping her back (open hand) or going hog wild and beating the snot out of her?

I'm curious if the standard opinion of "do not ever hit a woman" is still firm nowadays as it was when I was a kid.
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No, hitting a woman is never justified. I'd certainly never stay with a woman who was abusive, but I'd leave, not retaliate.
 
I was curious because I have an "acquaintance". This woman has the foulest mouth...to women, to men. A female Michael Johnson we have here.
She was also beaten badly by her ex. After seeing how she speaks to people on a constant basis, I wonder if her ex beat her ass because he got what everyone else gets and I said I see why she got her ass beat. For that, I am the evil one for saying such a thing. Which is ok. **** their opinions. I stand by what I said.

On the other hand, I, too, have been beaten. But I did not verbally abuse him so it is not like I "asked" for it. But if I went to such hateful extremes with him, then yeah...losing control and smacking me would be understandable. Everyone snaps eventually.
 
X Factor said:
No, hitting a woman is never justified. I'd certainly never stay with a woman who was abusive, but I'd leave, not retaliate.
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Yep.. once it devolves into that sort of crap.. it is long over.
 
sharon said:
Negotiation is the recognition that you don't OWN the other... Its about respect and true affection.

Why would you EVER want to hurt someone you love? If you win , you lose.

Whether you are male or female.. the creation of your ongoing friendship is most important.
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I am not the aggressor in this scenario the female is. Obviously she acts as if I am a punching bag, one that she owns. You say negotiate , what is there to negotiate?
 
X Factor said:
No, hitting a woman is never justified. I'd certainly never stay with a woman who was abusive, but I'd leave, not retaliate.
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That's understandable, but otoh, this woman acts more like a lesser primate than a human. I don't advocate hitting anyone, man or woman, but there's only so much crap that anyone should be expected put up with.
 
Viktyr Korimir said:
If I won't raise my voice, don't you think the only option I have left to me is negotiation?
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I think there are many, many couples who don't understand the basics and have NO skills.. and, in general its not thier fault.

But, it sure wrecks families and breaks hearts, doesn't it?
 
Connery said:
I am not the aggressor in this scenario the female is. Obviously she acts as if I am a punching bag, one that she owns. You say negotiate , what is there to negotiate?
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There is NOTHING to negotiate........... leave... and don't look back.

There is an old saying.. If you see me getting smaller.. It means I'm leaving.
 
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It's not necessarily the leaving or negotiating in the relationship. I'm mainly focused on the continual screaming, belittling, foul mouthed name calling, bullying of a woman and the man finally snapping and sticking a fist in her face. We (women) are continually standing firm in the "no hitting" cop out when it comes to another woman getting her ass beat by a MAN. This "acquaintance" I speak of would be picking up her teeth doing it to me. I can imagine what he went through to make him snap. But because he is a male, other women stand behind her because she is female. I think that is warped. You get what you give, in my opinion.
 
In other words, she is not exempt just because of her sex.
The same goes with verbal abuse. You get picked on enough, you're eventually going to pick back and screaming foul when it's returned is chicken****.
 
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