Hillary in their Sights

[calamity]

With millions of rich people's dollars to spend, the RW Pacs are already out to get Hillary, the early front-runner for President in 2016. Carl Rove's Crossroads Org put this ad Together.
With Benghazi Video, Karl Rove Kicks Off 2016 With Hillary Clinton Hit - The Daily Beast

No wonder the IRS began looking a bit closer at those who claim to be non-profit social welfare and/or educational organizations. As political money swirls toward the drain, we want to be sure all the taxes required to be paid are actually paid.

Anyway, back to the monumental waste of money, selling attack ads targeting HRC 2-1/2 years before the presidential election season even begins. Here's a brief summary of the ad's intent.

This American Crossroads ad matters because of its unsubtle purpose: a preemptive strike against a potential Clinton presidential campaign in 2016. Remember that through 2008, Clinton was widely considered the most polarizing figure in American politics. The days of Hillary as Republicans’ favorite member of the Obama cabinet are over. This dynamic was unlikely to the point of absurdity—a case of political amnesia brought on by a combination of her voting record in the Senate and the ’08 campaign-era conviction that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Using graphics best suited to a spy film, the first words on the screen are “September 11th, 2012”—emphasizing the date’s talismanic importance in making the case that Democrats are weak on terrorism even in the wake of the killing of bin Laden. Briskly laying out the sequence of the Benghazi attacks, the ad then cites the “2 a.m. phone call” to the then–secretary of State from Gregory Hicks, the deputy station chief in Libya, who testified in Congress last week that he described the attacks as they were occurring as “terrorism.” It is no accident that the “2 a.m. call” neatly recalls the Clinton campaign’s famous 2008 3 a.m. phone-call attack ad directed at Barack Obama.

 

[fmw]

With millions of rich people's dollars to spend, the RW Pacs are already out to get Hillary, the early front-runner for President in 2016. Carl Rove's Crossroads Org put this ad Together.
With Benghazi Video, Karl Rove Kicks Off 2016 With Hillary Clinton Hit - The Daily Beast

No wonder the IRS began looking a bit closer at those who claim to be non-profit social welfare and/or educational organizations. As political money swirls toward the drain, we want to be sure all the taxes required to be paid are actually paid.

Anyway, back to the monumental waste of money, selling attack ads targeting HRC 2-1/2 years before the presidential election season even begins. Here's a brief summary of the ad's intent.

But the attack ads are good if they target a republican?

 

[Dickieboy]

Yep, attacking HRC currently is premature. She hasn't announced so in this context it is a 'monumental waste money' but conversely one could argue that money that all these 'millionaires and billionaires' donate to these organizations is being redistributed to those in the middle class who produce, film, broadcast, etc. these ads thus being of some economic value...

 

[Tigger]

It's an absolute waste of money. All one should have to do in order to get Conservative or Republican voters to ignore Hillary is to put up a single picture of her. As soon as they realize she's female (which might take a while), the Conservatives won't vote for her and the Republicans will at least be thinking twice about it.

 

[Chaddelamancha]

I hope she pretends to run for the next couple of years just so these idiots waste a ton of their money.

With millions of rich people's dollars to spend, the RW Pacs are already out to get Hillary, the early front-runner for President in 2016. Carl Rove's Crossroads Org put this ad Together.
With Benghazi Video, Karl Rove Kicks Off 2016 With Hillary Clinton Hit - The Daily Beast

No wonder the IRS began looking a bit closer at those who claim to be non-profit social welfare and/or educational organizations. As political money swirls toward the drain, we want to be sure all the taxes required to be paid are actually paid.

Anyway, back to the monumental waste of money, selling attack ads targeting HRC 2-1/2 years before the presidential election season even begins. Here's a brief summary of the ad's intent.

 

[Jetboogieman]

As soon as they realize she's female (which might take a while), the Conservatives won't vote for her

 

[calamity]

But the attack ads are good if they target a republican?

I haven't seen any Liberal attack ads going after any future GOP candidate who has not even announced he/she is running yet. But, then again, the Left has a lot less money to spend.

 

[Tigger]

Jet, yes. See I figure it's going to take most Conservatives a while to recognize her as a woman because the women we deal with on a regular basis look, act, sound, and behave very differently than MRS. Clinton does. Once they realize that she is actually a woman and not the actor who played Gollum in the LOTR movies, the Traditional Value that women are not supposed to be involved in politics will kick in and she won't stand a chance with Conservative voters.

 

[CanadaJohn]

With millions of rich people's dollars to spend, the RW Pacs are already out to get Hillary, the early front-runner for President in 2016. Carl Rove's Crossroads Org put this ad Together.
With Benghazi Video, Karl Rove Kicks Off 2016 With Hillary Clinton Hit - The Daily Beast

No wonder the IRS began looking a bit closer at those who claim to be non-profit social welfare and/or educational organizations. As political money swirls toward the drain, we want to be sure all the taxes required to be paid are actually paid.

Anyway, back to the monumental waste of money, selling attack ads targeting HRC 2-1/2 years before the presidential election season even begins. Here's a brief summary of the ad's intent.

I have to ask, in all seriousness, what do you think Hillary Clinton actually accomplished in her four years as Secretary of State? Her stated goal, when assuming the office, was to "restore US stature on the world stage" yet after her time in office public favorable opinion regarding the US has dropped lower than during the Bush Presidency in muslim countries throughout the world, from 33% under Bush to 24% under Obama, particularly in Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Pakistan. During these same four years, support for President Obama's policies in these regions has dropped from 34% to 15% approval.

Other than the fact that Clinton has been the most travelled Secretary of State, visiting 102 countries and travelling almost one million miles, what has she accomplished? Was she able to secure Russian cooperation on Iran? Syria? Did she help to advance the middle east peace process? I admit, she was the first Secretary of State to be able to crow about the murder of a US Ambassador under her watch since the Jimmy Carter administration, but has she any significant or solid accomplishments?

Got anything?

 

[Jetboogieman]

There may be something to this Benghazi thing.

I don't know yet.

I'd like to see the evidence and decide for myself.

But anyone who thinks Republicans intentions regarding Benghazi are based on the interests of the country, are sadly mistaken.

 

[APACHERAT]

I hope she pretends to run for the next couple of years just so these idiots waste a ton of their money.

I think Hillary is hoping that the political left are exempt from karma like they believe they our exempt from the oath they took to uphold and defend the Constitution.

You all are aware of what Hillary Rodham was doing around this time forty years ago ? She had just started working on bringing down a President.

What comes around goes around.

 

[CalGun]

So says every so called centrist around here.

I applaud Rove for doing what journalist should do and that is call out HRC for her lies and failures. Rand Paul had it right she has no business being in charge of anything. In the words of Harry Reid I wouldn't trust her to run a dog shelter.

But the attack ads are good if they target a republican?

 

[Perotista]

With millions of rich people's dollars to spend, the RW Pacs are already out to get Hillary, the early front-runner for President in 2016. Carl Rove's Crossroads Org put this ad Together.
With Benghazi Video, Karl Rove Kicks Off 2016 With Hillary Clinton Hit - The Daily Beast

No wonder the IRS began looking a bit closer at those who claim to be non-profit social welfare and/or educational organizations. As political money swirls toward the drain, we want to be sure all the taxes required to be paid are actually paid.

Anyway, back to the monumental waste of money, selling attack ads targeting HRC 2-1/2 years before the presidential election season even begins. Here's a brief summary of the ad's intent.

There probably wasting their money. I see new fresh faces in 2016, not Hillary or Biden.

 

[polgara]

I think Hillary is hoping that the political left are exempt from karma like they believe they our exempt from the oath they took to uphold and defend the Constitution.

You all are aware of what Hillary Rodham was doing around this time forty years ago ? She had just started working on bringing down a President.

What comes around goes around.

Good afternoon, Apacherat. :2wave:

:agree: with "what comes around goes around." From what I have read about Karma, it's probably the universe's most exact means of either rewarding or punishing us for our actions. It doesn't presume to tell us what to do--that is left to each individual's choice, and you will be judged accordingly. No exceptions made! And religion doesn't enter into it. What could be more fair and just? :thumbs:

 

[Chaddelamancha]

If you think that the left is the only party not following the constitution, you are mistaken. It's these left vs right arguments that have put our congress at a standstill.

I think Hillary is hoping that the political left are exempt from karma like they believe they our exempt from the oath they took to uphold and defend the Constitution.

You all are aware of what Hillary Rodham was doing around this time forty years ago ? She had just started working on bringing down a President.

What comes around goes around.

 

[polgara]

There probably wasting their money. I see new fresh faces in 2016, not Hillary or Biden.

Good afternoon, Pero. :2wave:

Hillary has stated on many occasions that she is neither interested in running, nor will she do so. Why waste money on this? It does make we wonder if it might be safe to assume that politicians really don't trust each other? :lamo:

 

[calamity]

There probably wasting their money. I see new fresh faces in 2016, not Hillary or Biden.

Hillary is probably too old at this point to have the energy and drive for a hard-fought presidential bid and Biden never was electable. So, I agree.

 

[calamity]

I think Hillary is hoping that the political left are exempt from karma like they believe they our exempt from the oath they took to uphold and defend the Constitution.

You all are aware of what Hillary Rodham was doing around this time forty years ago ? She had just started working on bringing down a President.

What comes around goes around.

Now Benghazi is equal to Watergate :shock:

 

[calamity]

I have to ask, in all seriousness, what do you think Hillary Clinton actually accomplished in her four years as Secretary of State? Her stated goal, when assuming the office, was to "restore US stature on the world stage" yet after her time in office public favorable opinion regarding the US has dropped lower than during the Bush Presidency in muslim countries throughout the world, from 33% under Bush to 24% under Obama, particularly in Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Pakistan. During these same four years, support for President Obama's policies in these regions has dropped from 34% to 15% approval.

I thought you all used to complain that the "Muslim in Chief" was a wee bit too popular in countries like Egypt and Pakistan. Now you all whine that we didn't win any popularity contests there while he was in office. :roll:

Other than the fact that Clinton has been the most travelled Secretary of State, visiting 102 countries and travelling almost one million miles, what has she accomplished? Was she able to secure Russian cooperation on Iran? Syria? Did she help to advance the middle east peace process? I admit, she was the first Secretary of State to be able to crow about the murder of a US Ambassador under her watch since the Jimmy Carter administration, but has she any significant or solid accomplishments?

Got anything?

Arab Spring. Have you heard of it? Ghadafy gone, Bin Laden gone, Mubarak out, Bashar on his last legs. Not bad. Whether intended or not. Not bad.

 

[Tigger]

Now Benghazi is equal to Watergate :shock:

Personally, I'd suggest it's much worse. Not to downplay the stupidity and illegality of the Watergate incident, but FOUR AMERICANS DIED in Benghazi. That's valued the same as the death of four times the world's non-American population put together so far as I'm concerned. 1 American life = value of ALL non-American lives put together. Why we had a diplomatic presence in Libya to begin with perplexes me beyond all reasonable comprehension. Why those locations were not secured like US Military posts concerns me even more. Why everyone and everything available wasn't dispatched to their aid as soon as the first call for aid came in utterly stupifies me.

 

[calamity]

Personally, I'd suggest it's much worse. Not to downplay the stupidity and illegality of the Watergate incident, but FOUR AMERICANS DIED in Benghazi. That's valued the same as the death of four times the world's non-American population put together so far as I'm concerned. 1 American life = value of ALL non-American lives put together. Why we had a diplomatic presence in Libya to begin with perplexes me beyond all reasonable comprehension. Why those locations were not secured like US Military posts concerns me even more. Why everyone and everything available wasn't dispatched to their aid as soon as the first call for aid came in utterly stupifies me.

Oh please. Here we go again with the "Four Americans Died" bull****.

Those four people knew the risks. And, even the Bush appointed defense secretary: Robert Gates, stated that there was no way they were sending airstrikes or other personnel in to rescue those four people regardless what the clownshoe brigade on the Right say or think.

So, quite the whining. It just makes your side look "cartoonish".

Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability - CBS News

 

[APACHERAT]

Now Benghazi is equal to Watergate :shock:

Benghazi is worse than Watergate. Watergate was about a cover up by Nixon. A cover up of the burglary of the Democrat Party HQ's. that Nixon had no knowledge of until after it happened. No one was killed during the Watergate break in.

Benghazi goes beyond dereliction of duty with in the Obama administration. Four Americans were killed and for two weeks the Obama administration lied to the American people.

So we have four things here, dereliction of duty, incompetency, four dead Americans and a cover up to help Obama get reelected.

 

[calamity]

Benghazi is worse than Watergate. Watergate was about a cover up by Nixon. A cover up of the burglary of the Democrat Party HQ's. that Nixon had no knowledge of until after it happened. No one was killed during the Watergate break in.

Benghazi goes beyond dereliction of duty with in the Obama administration. Four Americans were killed and for two weeks the Obama administration lied to the American people.

So we have four things here, dereliction of duty, incompetency, four dead Americans and a cover up to help Obama get reelected.

see post 21

 

[Perotista]

Good afternoon, Pero. :2wave:

Hillary has stated on many occasions that she is neither interested in running, nor will she do so. Why waste money on this? It does make we wonder if it might be safe to assume that politicians really don't trust each other? :lamo:

LOl, you think?

 

[Tigger]

Oh please. Here we go again with the "Four Americans Died" bull****. Those four people knew the risks.

Yes, those four people did know the risks. What I don't believe they knew was that their country would leave them high and dry to face a violent riot of armed Libyans without any support whatsoever. I just finished re-reading Michael J Durant's book "In the Company of Heroes". For those who don't readily remember Mr. Durant, he was the pilot of one of the two US Army Blackhawk helicopters that was shot down over Mogadishu on October 3, 1993. CW3 Durant spent 11 days in captivity as a POW of General Aidid's forces in Somalia. The one thing that kept him going despite bullet wounds, a shattered leg and a broken back.... Knowing that his comrades and his country would not just leave him there to die. Apparently members of the State Department can't say the same thing.

And, even the Bush appointed defense secretary: Robert Gates, stated that there was no way they were sending airstrikes or other personnel in to rescue those four people regardless what the clownshoe brigade on the Right say or think.

Would I expect them to be sent in?.... definitely not. Not with the current administration in charge. SHOULD they have been sent in?.... YES. IF you are going to post US Diplomatic team to a fourth world ****-hole like Libya, you damn well ought to have plans in place to defend those people 24/7/365. Even if that means INVADING the damn nation to do it. OTHERWISE, do not send these people there in the first place.

So, quite the whining. It just makes your side look "cartoonish".

Being called cartoonish by a political appointee is an insult I can most definitely deal with.