Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorables'

[Captain America]

Re: Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorable

Yup...and it will eventually bring about an economic collapse. The entire world cannot be propped up on the the back of our economy, especially if it's hollowed out in the middle.

Whereas, I do not begrudge the poor soul in Indonesia for making his five dollars a day, I do take some issue with it.

Our young nation QUICKLY grew into the most prosperous nation in recorded history. Meanwhile, those folks in those un-developing countries were, and as they had been, surviving the way they survived for centuries.

What makes us any smarter than them? Could they not have developed their own nation's, their own culture's, in to the most prosperous of nations as we did in America? They had CENTURIES of a head start. Yet, they still lived in mud huts.

That's not on America. They chose their path and we chose ours. Now, we have to divide our prosperity among them? Just so our uber rich can become uber-uber rich?

**** that.

 

[Mycroft]

Re: Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorable

Oh, I think he would've given her a fair run in the primary!

It would've been the Obama vs Clinton camps, the old vs the new, and I think Joe would've been more than competitive against her.

I think it would have come down to who DWS preferred. After all, she was pretty much the deciding factor that got Hillary nominated.

 

[LowDown]

Re: Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorable

Clinton insulted Trump's voters, an act I disapprove of. Donald, however, has been insulting Hispanics, Muslims, blacks and probably Inuits for all I know since he started running for President. He's covered a lot more ground.

We don't need a White Nationalist party.

So, being concerned about terrorists sneaking into the country with Muslim refugees is "insulting all Muslims". Being concerned about criminals getting into the country across the Southern border is "insulting all Mexicans. Doing what the left wingers have always done, which is to assume that a judge of an ethnic group will favor those in his group, is insulting Mexicans. And saying that blacks want to be safe in their neighborhoods and have access to good schools is insulting blacks. Liberals lie about Trump, and then they believe their own lies. Then they wonder why Trump has as much support as he does. The whole basis of their claiming he's a racist and a xenophobe is their own lies and distortions.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Re: Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorable

I just want to see the media to beat her to death with her quote like they did to romney.

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As much as the "journalists" are offended by how Hillary treats them she is still their man, because Trump clearly has even less respect for them. The problem for them however is that increasingly America does not care what they have to say, they have pissed away almost all of their relevance and credibility over a long space of time.

Their rabid attacks on Trump and the citizens who support him are only the latest confirmation of their sorry state.

I am betting that the American people are generally noticing.

The future is likely to not go well for the "journalists".

And they know it.

 

[Gaztopian]

Re: Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorable

Lol...that's not the irony that's being pointed out. The fact that it went over your head is even better as you seem to fancy yourself some kind of uber intellectual. So amusing.

Bear with me and explain the irony being pointed out.

 

[Cardinal]

Re: Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorable

So, being concerned about terrorists sneaking into the country with Muslim refugees is "insulting all Muslims". Being concerned about criminals getting into the country across the Southern border is "insulting all Mexicans. Doing what the left wingers have always done, which is to assume that a judge of an ethnic group will favor those in his group, is insulting Mexicans. And saying that blacks want to be safe in their neighborhoods and have access to good schools is insulting blacks. Liberals lie about Trump, and then they believe their own lies. Then they wonder why Trump has as much support as he does. The whole basis of their claiming he's a racist and a xenophobe is their own lies and distortions.

The obvious distortions you're making is for the benefit of white people who don't feel comfortable possibly voting in a White Nationalist party. Anybody who's been paying attention, despite your lame spin, knows that all Mexicans, all Muslims and all black people have been the focus of his demagoguery.

So to those white people who are genuinely not racist and don't have it in for minorities and who are considering Trump as your alternative, Trump and his platform are racist and xenophobic, and you will be participating in the creation of a new White Nationalist Party.

 

[Chomsky]

Re: Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorable

I think it would have come down to who DWS preferred. After all, she was pretty much the deciding factor that got Hillary nominated.

I think this is a fair point.

But going against Biden could be seen as going against President Obama (even if Obama did not declare), which would have been a tough row for the Dem establishment, DWS notwithstanding.

And if Obama did declare for Joe, I very much doubt the Party would go against him.

 

[LowDown]

Re: Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorable

Come back and tell us all about it after Trump gets his butt handed to him in November.

I'm looking forward to hearing all of the 'woulda,coulda,shouldas' from the Alt-Right.

Most likely you're right about Hillary being elected. It's getting harder and harder to be sure of that, though.

 

[LowDown]

Re: Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorable

The obvious distortions you're making is for the benefit of white people who don't feel comfortable possibly voting in a White Nationalist party. Anybody who's been paying attention, despite your lame spin, knows that all Mexicans, all Muslims and all black people have been the focus of his demagoguery.

So to those white people who are genuinely not racist and don't have it in for minorities and who are considering Trump as your alternative, Trump and his platform are racist and xenophobic, and you will be participating in the creation of a new White Nationalist Party.

So you're just going to double down on that nonsense. Have a nice day.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Re: Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorable

I think this is a fair point.

But going against Biden could be seen as going against President Obama (even if Obama did not declare), which would have been a tough row for the Dem establishment, DWS notwithstanding.

And if Obama did declare for Joe, I very much doubt the Party would go against him.

This would be the same Joe who went back and forth a bunch of times, could not make up his mind, then a bunch of weeks after his "final decision" said that not running was a mistake...that guy?

How bout we put someone in the chair who wants to be there?

Hopefully not a really old person with known medical issues.

Hopefully someone decisive.

 

[Thorgasm]

Re: Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorable

My main beef is that we're clearly grading Donald on a curve, a point I think it's likely you agree with, but may not be your primary point. If your primary point was that Clinton shouldn't have been the Democratic candidate to begin with, we would agree on that as well.

How two of the biggest liars running won their primaries is the insult to our intelligence.

 

[Thorgasm]

Re: Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorable

How you get this out of what I said I have no idea.

Apparently it is not PC to call racists, racist.

 

[Cardinal]

Re: Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorable

So you're just going to double down on that nonsense. Have a nice day.

I'll say what everybody who isn't a drooling, stark raving bigot can plainly see, and what genuine Conservatives who aren't horrible human beings are afraid of and really hoping isn't true. And that's that Donald has plainly singled out entire ethnic groups, leaving supporters like you to try to spin his comments into any pretzel shape possible so they don't apply to the entire groups they so clearly and repeatedly have. This is the era of the internet -- you can't scrub the internet fast enough to make his past comments go away.

 

[Cardinal]

Re: Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorable

How two of the biggest liars running won their primaries is the insult to our intelligence.

I was a Bernie guy, so it's safe to say I think that outcome was disappointing.

 

[Helix]

Re: Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorable

For your argument to be sensible, Hillary would need to have a chance of winning over some of Trump's supporters. Before I judge you on that, I'd like you to expand on it. Do you truly believe that Hillary can win over any of Trump's supporters?

false, and here's why :

for Clinton to win, she has to have a whole lot of people who don't like her but despise Trump actually show up on election day. my guess is that many of her voters are not supporters at all, but they sure don't want to see Trump as president. disgust them enough during the campaign, though, and a chunk of them might just say "**** this ****," and not bother to vote on election day. if your main selling point is "you might really dislike me, but i'm not him," then you had better be pretty damned careful about what you say while doing everything you can to hold on to the votes that you have. with this stupid statement, she is doing the opposite.

And you're wrong regarding the uselessness of the attack. Strength is paramount in politics, especially in American politics. Trump's projection of audacious strength that appears not to apologize or equivocate accrued him quite the fervent following. An overwhelming majority of his supporters have no idea why they support him; they just gravitate to his projection of strength. Considering how abysmal Trump's platform is and how inept of a candidate he is, Hillary should have more of a claim over that strategy. She has the tools to project strength and to project it forcefully; why should she be timid and appear bullied? Furthermore, Hillary needs to plant her flag as the antithesis of Trump and his deranged following, and that entails the rightful denigration of his supporters.

i'm not wrong. she's expressing contempt for a quarter of the electorate, not for Trump specifically. this attack only helps Trump.

It's counter-intuitive that as Hillary continues to lose her lead over Trump and as the race continues to worryingly narrow, you're advocating that she continues to follow what is clearly a losing strategy.

i'm advocating that she fix her ****ing campaign so that Trump doesn't win. turning this ****show of an election even more towards Jerry Springer chair throwing nonsense might help Trump, but it won't help her. if she plays his game, she won't beat him at it. she needs her own game, and she needs to fix some of her negatives.

 

[JayDubya]

Re: Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorable

The obvious distortions you're making is for the benefit of white people who don't feel comfortable possibly voting in a White Nationalist party. Anybody who's been paying attention, despite your lame spin, knows that all Mexicans, all Muslims and all black people have been the focus of his demagoguery.

So to those white people who are genuinely not racist and don't have it in for minorities and who are considering Trump as your alternative, Trump and his platform are racist and xenophobic, and you will be participating in the creation of a new White Nationalist Party.

:lamo

Wow. Just wow.

 

[Chomsky]

Re: Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorable

This would be the same Joe who went back and forth a bunch of times, could not make up his mind, then a bunch of weeks after his "final decision" said that not running was a mistake...that guy?

How bout we put someone in the chair who wants to be there?

Hopefully not a really old person with known medical issues.

Hopefully someone decisive.

Regardless, he would've been a strong candidate much beloved within the party.

For Dems, Presidential elections are all about getting out the vote. The raw numbers in terms of popular vote and electoral college are such, that if they inspire their base and get-out the vote (without inspiring the other guys!), they usually prevail.

I believe Biden with Warren (and Obama at their side), would've provided that inspiration. Bubba may be inspirational, but Hillary is anything *but* inspirational. And just like Bernie, after the primary they would've fallen right in line ...

 

[Hawkeye10]

Re: Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorable

Hillary Clinton expressed "regret" Saturday for comments in which she said "half" of Donald Trump's supporters are "deplorables," meaning people who are racist, sexist, homophobic or xenophobic.

"Last night I was 'grossly generalistic,' and that's never a good idea. I regret saying 'half' -- that was wrong," Clinton said in a statement in which she also vowed to call out "bigotry" in Trump's campaign.

Clinton expresses regret for saying 'half' of Trump supporters are 'deplorables' - CNNPolitics.com

AKA "I regret saying what I think because too many folks dont like it".

Hillary, the anti Trump.

 

[Thorgasm]

Re: Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorable

Abuse of freedom of speech. Not the 1st by itself.

Of course. Unfortunately, people aren't held responsible for their free speech. Thanks, Citizens United!

 

[Thorgasm]

Re: Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorable

I was a Bernie guy, so it's safe to say I think that outcome was disappointing.

I was as well. It's a damn shame.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Re: Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorable

Regardless, he would've been a strong candidate much beloved within the party.

For Dems, Presidential elections are all about getting out the vote. The raw numbers in terms of popular vote and electoral college are such, that if they inspire their base and get-out the vote (without inspiring the other guys!), they usually prevail.

I believe Biden with Warren (and Obama at their side), would've provided that inspiration. Bubba may be inspirational, but Hillary is anything *but* inspirational. And just like Bernie, after the primary they would've fallen right in line ...

You think D's want to vote for Biden?

Two of the five Democrats included in the poll have net negative favorable ratings -- Vice President Joe Biden and Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley. O'Malley is the least known potential candidate in the survey, with 83% of Americans not having an opinion of him. Biden's net negative favorable rating could be more troubling in terms of his 2016 prospects, as 80% of Americans have an opinion of him, second only to Clinton among the 16 candidates in the poll.

Clinton Is Best Known, Best Liked Potential 2016 Candidate

Yes I know I am not listening to the pollsters the rest of the way on the POTUS race, but I have no reason to think this is wrong.

 

[Chomsky]

Re: Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorable

You think D's want to vote for Biden?

Yes!

Clinton Is Best Known, Best Liked Potential 2016 Candidate

Yes I know I am not listening to the pollsters the rest of the way on the POTUS race, but I have no reason to think this is wrong.

:lamo

And from 2+ years ago, to boot.

You're some piece of work!

 

[Unitedwestand13]

Re: Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorable

I was as well. It's a damn shame.

Bernie sander's faced long odds in his presidential run.

Hilliary had a commanding lead in delegates and Bernie was not able to overcome that delegate lead

 

[Fishking]

Re: Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorable

Bear with me and explain the irony being pointed out.

That your every bit of a hateful person as those you despise.

 

[manise]

Re: Hillary Clinton groups half of Donald Trump's supporters in 'basket of deplorable

Clinton expresses regret for saying 'half' of Trump supporters are 'deplorables' - CNNPolitics.com

AKA "I regret saying what I think because too many folks dont like it".

Hillary, the anti Trump.

Unforced error. This comment, and now the "regret," doesn't help the campaign no matter how popular or satisfying it may be for people who despise Trump. Clinton needs good news days not this kind of amateur crap.