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HHS to stop recommending Covid shots for children, pregnant women, WSJ reports

roguenuke said:
You don't get to counter with anything else but evidence and be at same level. Lack of evidence of something not happening is not itself actual evidence.
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Translation: I can't refute your points so I'll change the parameters of what I'm asking.
 
jaeger19 said:
Sorry you simply cannot understand the science.

I literally cited it for you.

“A meta-analysis of 12 studies found that the effectiveness of the adenovirus-vectored vaccines against infection was 73% (95% CI, 69%–77%), and for mRNA vaccines it was 85% (95% CI, 82%–88%) in participants ≥18 years [3]. Some of these data provide evidence of effectiveness against Beta and Gamma variant strains as well [48, 55]. Furthermore, evidence suggested that individuals with vaccine breakthrough SARS-CoV-2 infection during the Alpha period were less likely to transmit to household contacts than unvaccinated individuals with SARS-CoV-2 infection“

For mRNA vaccines the EFFECTIVENESS OF PREVENTING INFECTION was 85%
In addition for those individuals that had a break through infection were LESS LIKELY TO TRANSMIT to household contacts.


Please stop your bs. You are hurting people by spreading your bs.
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jaeger19 said:
Sorry you simply cannot understand the science.

I literally cited it for you.

“A meta-analysis of 12 studies found that the effectiveness of the adenovirus-vectored vaccines against infection was 73% (95% CI, 69%–77%), and for mRNA vaccines it was 85% (95% CI, 82%–88%) in participants ≥18 years [3]. Some of these data provide evidence of effectiveness against Beta and Gamma variant strains as well [48, 55]. Furthermore, evidence suggested that individuals with vaccine breakthrough SARS-CoV-2 infection during the Alpha period were less likely to transmit to household contacts than unvaccinated individuals with SARS-CoV-2 infection“

For mRNA vaccines the EFFECTIVENESS OF PREVENTING INFECTION was 85%
In addition for those individuals that had a break through infection were LESS LIKELY TO TRANSMIT to household contacts.


Please stop your bs. You are hurting people by spreading your bs.
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Nothing that I have stated is inaccurate.
 
TamleeB said:
Nothing that I have stated is inaccurate.
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When you say “

“The covid vaccination does not stop transmission.”

That is inaccurate. It does stop transmission. Just not 100%.

Tge same with.

“ Covid vaccination does not stop infection”

That is also inaccurate. It does , just not 100 percent.

But you know that and you lie anyway.

Because you use that as justification for not getting boosted and protecting those around you.

You know it .
 
jaeger19 said:
When you say “

“The covid vaccination does not stop transmission.”

That is inaccurate. It does stop transmission. Just not 100%.

Tge same with.

“ Covid vaccination does not stop infection”

That is also inaccurate. It does , just not 100 percent.

But you know that and you lie anyway.

Because you use that as justification for not getting boosted and protecting those around you.

You know it .
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Actually, those fully vaccinated and boosted can still get Covid (and do), and they also can (and do) spread the virus. Fact.
 
TamleeB said:
Nothing that I have stated is inaccurate.
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Remember, you are discussing that with someone who claims the discredited Proximal Origins paper is evidence Covid was zoonotic. He won't even acknowledge basic facts.
 
TamleeB said:
Actually, those fully vaccinated and boosted can still get Covid (and do), and they also can (and do) spread the virus. Fact.
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Yes. However those fully vaccinated and boosted are much less likely to get covid and less likely to transmit it to others if they do happen to have a breakthrough infection.

Which is why if you care about protecting the most vulnerable in society you should be vaccinated and boosted if you are medically safe to do so.

Now that is completely accurate . Why aren’t you saying that???
We know why. Stop it.
 
jaeger19 said:
Yes. However those fully vaccinated and boosted are much less likely to get covid and less likely to transmit it to others if they do happen to have a breakthrough infection.

Which is why if you care about protecting the most vulnerable in society you should be vaccinated and boosted if you are medically safe to do so.

Now that is completely accurate . Why aren’t you saying that???
We know why. Stop it.
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And I never said differently. The fact remains that fully vaccinated and boosted individuals can and do still get covid, as well as spread the virus.
Stop it? Nope. I have stated facts. If you have an issue with that, too bad.
 
TamleeB said:
And I never said differently. The fact remains that fully vaccinated and boosted individuals can and do still get covid, as well as spread the virus.
Stop it? Nope. I have stated facts. If you have an issue with that, too bad.
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Yeah. You know you stated things differently.
You stated that “ vaccination doesn’t stop transmission”
When obviously it does.
 
jaeger19 said:
Yeah. You know you stated things differently.
You stated that “ vaccination doesn’t stop transmission”
When obviously it does.
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Nope. The vaccinations do not stop transmission.
"stop" means to cease or finish; to no longer be happening or in progress. It signifies a halt or termination, where something ceases to exist or be done
 
TamleeB said:
Nope. The vaccinations do not stop transmission.
"stop" means to cease or finish; to no longer be happening or in progress. It signifies a halt or termination, where something ceases to exist or be done
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Exactly. In 85% of the time it STOPS infection
Some 40% of time ( give or take percentages based on on variant) itSTOPS transmission.

Are you going to argue that brakes don’t stop cars because once a while people have brake failures.?

Are you going to say . “ brakes don’t stop cars?”
Because once in a while brakes fail”?

No you don’t .

So stop your Bullcrap.
 
Revelation said:
thanks Nola, just caught that on MSN.

it aint over though, pharma will be looking for ways to spread their toxins and reap their profits.

they say it is 'not over till it is over'.......well this pharma Propaganda is never over. the only thing we have left to defend our selves is The Truth...........and RFK.

US drops COVID vaccine recommendations for healthy children, pregnant women​

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Excellent news. The Covid vaccine was never indicated for the young or pregnant women.
 
NOLA Dude said:
Excellent news. The Covid vaccine was never indicated for the young or pregnant women.
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Bullcrap

Safety of COVID-19 vaccines during pregnancy: A systematic review and meta-analysis - PMC

COVID-19 during pregnancy imposes a risk of severe disease and adverse birth outcomes. Data about the safety of vaccination against COVID-19 for pregnant women is limited. COVID-19 vaccination coverage among pregnant persons is suboptimal. We found ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The Importance of COVID Vaccine for Pregnant Women​

medicine.yale.edu

The Importance of COVID Vaccine for Pregnant Women

The fall season brings a new COVID-19 vaccine and CDC officials are encouraging everyone over 6 months old to get vaccinated —including pregnant women. In this
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“Compared to an unvaccinated matched cohort, vaccinated people had significantly lower stillbirth rate (p<0.01) as well as no difference in rate of PTB (p=0.35), SGA (p=0.79), or rate of VLBW (>1,500 g; 0.31). Vaccinated people who were boosted had significantly lower rates of maternal COVID-19 infections (p<0.0001), COVID-19 related hospitalization (p<0.05), PTB (p<0.05), stillbirth (p<0.01), SGA (p<0.05), and VLBW (p<0.01), compared to vaccinated people that did not receive a third booster dose five months after completing the initial vaccination series.“

The effect of COVID-19 vaccination and booster on maternal-fetal outcomes: a retrospective multicenter cohort study - PMC

COVID-19 infection in pregnant people has previously been shown to increase the risk for poor maternal-fetal outcomes. Despite this, there has been a lag in COVID-19 vaccination in pregnant people due to concerns over the potential effects of the ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Stop telling dangerous lies

Have you no shame???
 
NOLA Dude said:
Excellent news. The Covid vaccine was never indicated for the young or pregnant women.
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yep. hopefully RFK sticks to his guns and brings the Orange guy along for the ride. this is gonna be a long one as all the Billionaires and Oligarchs are profiting big on this one.

they will not surrender easily if at all. if i find the story, there was a Pharma company (edit moderna) created just for pushing the covid vax that was experimented years before covid was created in the Wuhan factory and bussed over here.

many have documented the Covid story, getting all the facts on this high Crime is difficult. Dr Falsi was there every step of the way and kinda documented in the book 'the real Dr Falsi'.

don't look for a review from the media lap dogs, they prolly told to bury the story.


edit. back in the day, part of this whole corrupt bio warfare included moderna. that would make an interesting thread in itself; one could invest in moderna kind of like Bitcoin and watch the stock go to the moon. maybe the sheep think they are 'lucky' when investing in this hellish type of thing........i ran from it.

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Revelation said:
yep. hopefully RFK sticks to his guns and brings the Orange guy along for the ride. this is gonna be a long one as all the Billionaires and Oligarchs are profiting big on this one.

they will not surrender easily if at all. if i find the story, there was a Pharma company (edit moderna) created just for pushing the covid vax that was experimented years before covid was created in the Wuhan factory and bussed over here.

many have documented the Covid story, getting all the facts on this high Crime is difficult. Dr Falsi was there every step of the way and kinda documented in the book 'the real Dr Falsi'.

don't look for a review from the media lap dogs, they prolly told to bury the story.


edit. back in the day, part of this whole corrupt bio warfare included moderna. that would make an interesting thread in itself; one could invest in moderna kind of like Bitcoin and watch the stock go to the moon. maybe the sheep think they are 'lucky' when investing in this hellish type of thing........i ran from it.

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Right. Unfortunately Trump doesnt want to admit the covid vaccine was bad because of his involvement. Hopefully he'll come around eventually.
 
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NOLA Dude said:
Right. Unfortunately Trump doesnt want to admit the covid vaccine was bad because of his involvement. Hopefully he'll come around eventually.
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yeah hopefully. we in the Truth movement call that 'hopeum' LOL

i suspect that the Orange knew this was coming way before the Oligarchs dumped the virus from the wuhan lab. (edit, told the media that 'this was the Calm before the storm)

my guess is when he told the media that something very Big was coming, which created a stir in the media.

of course they cried and asked him what that was and Orange said you will see.

Drama is rehearsed way before they do their Dirty Work; dirty Gates attended a seminar on Plandemics for all his Brass who were going to be working in the Kill Zones. (the seminar was called 'Events 201' at John Hopkins public school center for health security. lots of shady ties with their sponsoring of Dark Winter exercise in 2001. )

Whitney Web did a long piece on this years ago. why did they have a PR firm with an Event simulation exercise. ? and no the Sheep are never given details; guess we just don't understand the sheep sheering process.


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TamleeB said:
Just starting facts. Nothing more, nothing less.
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No, you are arguing in infantile absolutes. The vaccines reduce infections, spread, deaths and hospitalizations. No one argued it absolutely stops those conditions. You can argue like a child if you want.
 
TamleeB said:
Just starting facts. Nothing more, nothing less.
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why would sheep want facts when the Propaganda is so sweet ?


and don't ask for Facts; the sheep will never have enuf facts. they got a comfy pair of Blinders and don't want anything to see with.


Pandemic architect Dr. Jeremy Farrar promoted amid World Health Organization’s leadership shakeup

Farrar’s secret role in silencing the lab leak theory​


Before joining the WHO, Farrar directed the Wellcome Trust and played a central role in shaping lockdowns, mask mandates and mass vaccination campaigns. Dutch attorney Meike Terhorst suggested Farrar may have been the WHO’s de facto leader during the pandemic, wielding outsized influence over its policies.

He also collaborated on a pivotal March 2020 paper in Nature Medicine that dismissed the lab-leak theory of COVID-19’s origins. Though not listed as a co-author, Farrar worked closely with American infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci and others to draft the paper, a move critics allege was an ethical breach. His ties to Peter Daszak of EcoHealth Alliance – which funded coronavirus research at China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology – have further fueled scrutiny. (Related: Leaked emails show Fauci commissioned Feb. 2020 paper designed to disprove Wuhan lab leak theory for covid.)

Richard Ebright, molecular biologist at Rutgers University, slammed Farrar’s promotion as a reward for misinformation. He accused the Briton of helping “defraud the global public” about COVID-19’s origins.
 
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