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Oh, yes, I didn't mean right away. The second day after sounds about right to me. First day after? She's wondering if you'll call. Second day after you do! Yay!

Exactly. Also, if you do call right away, she's suddenly wondering why you're so needy and invasive. Not good.
 
I agree (in general) but I do understand the impulse. It might result from a desire to be completely open and honest. This is a rookie move, and invariably a mistake, but it sometimes comes from an earnest desire to be straightforward.

Yeah I can understand the open and honest thing and I dont mind if someone talks about their exes later in the relationship. Just not on the first date lol.
 
Wake I will be serious now.

  • Dress like a gentleman, that shows you respect her and yourself;
  • Treat her like she is the most important person in your life for those moments, because she is;
  • Look into her eyes when she speaks, listening for her tone, her happiness, her excitement at sharing these moments with you;
  • No one is perfect, do not expect yourself to be nor that she will be, there will be butterflies and nerves;
  • Order something easy to eat, a chicken breast perhaps as you do not need to worry about complex foods;
  • Stay away from alcohol and watch how she deals with that issue;
  • Above all have a sense of humor.

This is your time to shine, a magical moments where you are the center of her universe and she is yours.
 

Free this Saturday??
 
Yeah I can understand the open and honest thing and I dont mind if someone talks about their exes later in the relationship. Just not on the first date lol.

Agreed. In any relationship, sooner or later the exes are going to come up. But for ****s sake, do not bring them up early on. No one wants to hear about that (male or female).
 

I agree with all of this except the "stay away from alcohol" part. There's a reason people refer to alcohol as a "social lubricant." I'm not suggesting that one should get his date drunk, but a shared bottle of wine (e.g.) is not necessarily a bad idea on a first date.
 
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Agreed. In any relationship, sooner or later the exes are going to come up. But for ****s sake, do not bring them up early on. No one wants to hear about that (male or female).

Is it weird that I hate it more if they have only negative things to say about their ex? I just always wonder what they would say about me if we were to ever break up.
 


Not a steadfast rule at all just a suggestion. Also, the one going on the date needs to gauge his own ability to handle the juice. Last thing anyone needs is a situation due to nerves, a little too much to drink and an embarrassing moment.
 
Is it weird that I hate it more if they have only negative things to say about their ex?

Not necessarily. It's an understandable position. However, the implication of something like that might be something along the lines of "this girl was horrible to me, and you are, by contrast, totally awesome."

I just always wonder what they would say about me if we were to ever break up.

Probably the same stuff. Depending on what type of guy you're dealing with, they'd probably use the same strategy (with you as the ammunition) to make the same damn point.
 
Not a steadfast rule at all just a suggestion. Also, the one going on the date needs to gauge his own ability to handle the juice. Last thing anyone needs is a situation due to nerves, a little too much to drink and an embarrassing moment.

That's a fair point. I'm a pretty competent drinker (former bartender and theatre actor, currently an attorney and a dedicated urbanite), but I wouldn't be surprised if Wake is not.
 
That's a fair point. I'm a pretty competent drinker (former bartender and theatre actor, currently an attorney and a dedicated urbanite), but I wouldn't be surprised if Wake is not.

I am thinking about myself actually, I am the driver, I am being entrusted with this person's safety and one half of a good time. I would enjoy watching her have a glass of wine or more. I like to have my wits about me. Very subjective I understand, but, that is who I am.
 

That also makes sense. I live in an urban environment with good cab/bus service (San Francisco) and have not owned a car since I left LA. I imagine if I were responsible for driving, I'd have a slightly different attitude.
 
I love all the PC suck-up answers. By the way, they're all wrong. I suppose it may be okay if you're attracting a reeeeeeeeeeally "good girl" bordering on prude. For normal women, nuh uh.

By the way, when I said "be a dick", that didn't mean "smack her around". That's a far stretch. I'm saying don't compliment her. Act aloof and disinterested. Be casual almost to the level that she thinks you're on pot. Be a little rude (minor rude, not major).

Seriously, if a girl is even remotely into you and you play it cool to the point where you're indifferent to her, she'll throw herself at you. I mean to a level that borders shameless.

Don't listen to the women on here. They're telling you what they wish they want, but most of them - when approached with similar situations - have or will take the asshole over the good guy. If they say otherwise, they're lying. They just feel some sort of guilt for thinking this way, for some strange reason.
 

I don't know women who like this stupid game-playing. I would never choose an asshole over a good guy.
 
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I don't know women who like this stupid game-playing. I would never choose an asshole over a good guy.

If this is true, you're in the minority. This I promise you.
 
Or a guy who was playing a 'get me' game.

What happens if you fall for the game-face and then get involved more deeply? That's how **** marriages happen - married one person only to find it was bull****.
 
You can always pull the bait-and-switch, which is coming on like an asshole and then slowly showing your "sensitive" side. If you really pull it off, she'll think that she "changed" you and the guy will get bonus points with her. As women get older, they'll appreciate the genuine good guy, but you give them what they want in their young and stupid phase, not to mention that you sedate their "oh I can change him" ego. It's a triple play.
 

How annoying! If you have to start mapping your approach to getting ***** you're doign it all wrong.

whatever happend to 'love me or leave me' and 'take me as I am'

Men can't plan to play games like that and then bitch that things didn't go like they wanted it to - or that women are the ones who make no sense.
 

dude quit giving away mans secret game plan,if women spread the knowledge around the game might be over:2mad:
 
Playing games takes too much work for what it is worth. I wouldn't spend any time on that nonsense. If someone wants to play a game, I can get more work done and come out better for it.
 
I know this sounds awful and you'll wish you had a dislike button but I'm going to compact 68 years of experience (well, more like 54) and give you this peculiar advice.

If you want to have money and not have to keep starting over again and again, rent your house and your women. You'll save a fortune. If you don't like your landlord you can move and the women go away before they start to annoy you. Friends and cats are your best investment.

I can't tell if I'm being humorous or serious. Sorry if I offended anybody.
 

That's intensely cynical, but largely understandable. Probably not the best advice for someone who apparently hasn't really dated ever.
 
Wake....listen to Granny Enola.

Listening to some of the men here and what they THINK women want is...wrong. You'll know which ones to shine on. Some have common sense. Some don't.

If you were a martian and wanted to know what earthlings were like, would you ask another martian? Or the earthling? Men are from mars. Women from venus. Two completely different species, lol. Listen to the women. We know what we want. What we look for. Men have no clue. Well...some do. The smart ones. Be smart. Pay attention to the women. Unless, of course, you want to date a man.:mrgreen:
 

That's not entirely a bad notion, but let me ask you this:

If some young woman were asking your advice on how to seduce a man, would you advise her to listen to what men have to say on the subject, or would you advise her to listen to other women who are good at seducing men?
 
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