Here we go again. . . Z Defense Asks for Yet Antother Trial Delay.

[sharon]

I don't have much of an issue with someones story changing based on shock, but in any
of his version, was he not in fear of assault?
If you have ever been in a bad car accident, your memory of events is not all that clear
right afterwords.
The fundamentals of GZ story has not changed.

I think Trayvon was in fear.. when George didn't answer his question..

Yes I have been in a bad car accident.. and all the trauma that a big family experiences.. I tend to fall apart afterwards.

In the moment I do very well.

 

[sharon]

This is what the detective says in regards to Zimmerman's account.
And sharon knows it.

"I have some inconsistencies that don't amount to much."

Recording #5 – Detective Serino’s Interview With George Zimmerman – Part 2 (2/29/2012)
@ 01:16
http://www.axiomamnesia.com/Audio/G...Martin-Feb-29-Audio-In-Person-Interview-2.mp3​

George's vitals were completely normal when the EMTs examined him.

 

[Excon]

I think Trayvon was in fear.. when George didn't answer his question..

Sure sharon.
:doh

That is why ™ approached in a hostile fashion yelling his question at Zimmerman.

His question was part and parcel of his attack sharon, stop trying to spin.

 

[Excon]

George's vitals were completely normal when the EMTs examined him.

Irrelevant sharon, as he had time to calm down as he sat in the back of the police car while he waited for them to arrive and attend to his attacker first.

 

[ABC10]

What evidence exists that shows events did not happen exactly as GZ said?
The prosecution must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that GZ was not in fear of physical assault.

None. Prosecution even submitted picture of Zimmerman with a bloody head and a mashed nose in one of it's discovery thing. Even State Detective Gilbreath stated they had uncovered no evidence to dispute Zimmerman's claims of self defense. That interview from the first hearing is at CNN transcripts. George has one basic narrative only.

 

[mike2810]

More than yours. (Stop copying me)

Prove that statement you made.

Stardog, why don't you come clean and give us your background and age group? Your the one who brought up wanting to debate someone on the Z side that understood the law.

I will stop posting the statement below when you start answering questions with a straight and honest answer.
(I am never wrong)

 

[Stardog]

What evidence exists that shows events did not happen exactly as GZ said?
The prosecution must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that GZ was not in fear of physical assault.

Witness testimony. Forensic evidence. Z's own conflicting statements also make him culpable.
No, they only have to show he profiled, pursed, and shot. Which we all know they've already done.

 

[OscarB63]

Witness testimony. Forensic evidence. Z's own conflicting statements also make him culpable.
No, they only have to show he profiled, pursed, and shot. Which we all know they've already done.

with every post you prove you are totally ignorant of FL law.

 

[Stardog]

with every post you prove you are totally ignorant of FL law.

No evidence provided. Motion denied.

 

[longview]

Witness testimony. Forensic evidence. Z's own conflicting statements also make him culpable.
No, they only have to show he profiled, pursed, and shot. Which we all know they've already done.

So you agree that GZ is innocent, since there has not been a trail yet?

 

[Stardog]

So you agree that GZ is innocent, since there has not been a trail yet?

He is "presumed" innocent. That presumption can be overcome.

 

[longview]

He is "presumed" innocent. That presumption can be overcome.

I was just wondering if you believed in our system of laws, as you sound like you have already convicted him.

 

[OscarB63]

I was just wondering if you believed in our system of laws, as you sound like you have already convicted him.

hard to believe in something of which you are totally ignorant

 

[Stardog]

I was just wondering if you believed in our system of laws, as you sound like you have already convicted him.

I do believe in our system of laws. I also believe he's guilty. The two are not mutually exclusive. Presumption means a defendant is assumed to be not guilty it does not mean they are in fact not guilty. If we were to go with the opposite logic, no one could ever be convicted of any crime because the very fact of charging them would mean they are not guilty. That is not the case and thanks to FL's sunshine laws the public has extensive access to the records so we can all see the records and make up our own minds.

 

[ric27]

I do believe in our system of laws. I also believe he's guilty. The two are not mutually exclusive. Presumption means a defendant is assumed to be not guilty it does not mean they are in fact not guilty. If we were to go with the opposite logic, no one could ever be convicted of any crime because the very fact of charging them would mean they are not guilty. That is not the case and thanks to FL's sunshine laws the public has extensive access to the records so we can all see the records and make up our own minds.

Your ignorance is staggering....

Z is presumed innocent, and shooting someone who attacked him in self-defense is not a crime.

A grand jury indictment or *in this case* Corey's political affidavit is not evidence. It is a only a charge...Period

As an example...The Duke lacrosse players, the 300 or so convicted inmates, etc ..everyone thought they were guilty and later exonerated.

You can choose to believe what you want in your misguided world but Z deserves, as do we all, to be judged by evidence presented at a trial, where his lawyer has the ability to cross-examine any witnesses against Z and introduce witnesses and evidence in his defense.

 

[mike2810]

No evidence provided. Motion denied.

and where is answer to post 131? You failed to show you know more about the law than myself. I would settle on you explaining to us your background and knowledge of the law. How or where did you obtain it? Since you in a round about way claim to understand Florida law than most on this forum. Please let us know.

Z may be found guilty. Z may not be found guilty. It is interesting how you look at the evidence and come up with what you do.

I am never wrong.

 

[Stardog]

Your ignorance is staggering....

Z is presumed innocent, and shooting someone who attacked him in self-defense is not a crime.

A grand jury indictment or *in this case* Corey's political affidavit is not evidence. It is a only a charge...Period

As an example...The Duke lacrosse players, the 300 or so convicted inmates, etc ..everyone thought they were guilty and later exonerated.

You can choose to believe what you want in your misguided world but Z deserves, as do we all, to be judged by evidence presented at a trial, where his lawyer has the ability to cross-examine any witnesses against Z and introduce witnesses and evidence in his defense.

Hey, look who finally showed up again. Man, my predictions are good!

You realize when the trial starts it's going to be almost everyday. Are you going to show up? Because I predict that sinking feeling you have every time there's a hearing is also going to be with you all through the trial.