Here Is What The 1864 Arizona Abortion Law States

[rhinefire]

So I ask how many abortions were performed 188 years ago and what was the procedure?

13-3603. Definition; punishment
A person who provides, supplies or administers to a pregnant woman, or procures such woman to take any medicine, drugs or substance, or uses or employs any instrument or other means whatever, with intent thereby to procure the miscarriage of such woman, unless it is necessary to save her life, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not less than two years nor more than five years.

 

[Lursa]

So I ask how many abortions were performed 188 years ago and what was the procedure?

13-3603. Definition; punishment
A person who provides, supplies or administers to a pregnant woman, or procures such woman to take any medicine, drugs or substance, or uses or employs any instrument or other means whatever, with intent thereby to procure the miscarriage of such woman, unless it is necessary to save her life, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not less than two years nor more than five years.

So, not murder. Not for 2-5 yrs. More of a means to dissuade doctors from safely (relative term for the time) helping women and instead turning them out to look for back alleys. Once more, it's not about the humanity of the unborn but punishing women.

 

[Rexedgar]

I posted this in another thread on the AZ law topic. Doesn’t the State SC have no option but to uphold whatever laws are on the books? The legislature is the body that make the laws, right?


As a side-bar, I love how this is making the GOP do the Arizona Two-step!

 

[poppopfox]

There a lot of silly laws on the books that are not enforced. Here is a sample of some regarding women -
Top craziest laws still on the books
Women and the law

Not surprisingly, many of the antiquated statutes passed in the late 1800s and early 1900s were aimed at protecting the fairer sex from unwanted attention or less-than-flattering reputations. For example, an old city ordinance in Cleveland, Ohio, prohibits women from wearing patent leather shoes in public. The reason? Shiny footwear could afford a nearby gentleman an unintentional peep show.

In many parts of the country, the price of beauty can be stiff. Women in Florida, for example, can be fined for falling asleep under a dryer in a hair salon. And if you're a single thrill-seeker, head some place else. The sunshine state also prohibits unmarried women from parachuting on Sundays.

Forget about trying to publicly adjust your stockings in either Dennison, Texas, or Bristol, Tennessee. Performing such a lewd act could land you a sentence of up to 12 months in the state penitentiary.

If you're a woman living in Michigan, you might want to check with your husband before heading to the hair stylist. According to state law, your hair belongs to your spouse and you'll need his permission before you can alter it. When visiting Charlotte, North Carolina, don't plan on packing light. According to city law, you must be swathed in at least 16 yards of fabric before stepping out into public. Even in fashion-forward New York City, there are laws concerning how a woman dresses. In the Big Apple, wearing clingy or body-hugging clothing carries a $25 dollar fine.

Make of this what you will in regards to the Arizona abortion ruling.

 

[Loulit01]

T Even in fashion-forward New York City, there are laws concerning how a woman dresses. In the Big Apple, wearing clingy or body-hugging clothing carries a $25 dollar fine.

Make of this what you will in regards to the Arizona abortion ruling.

Yes, body-hugging clothing is lewd but on the bright side...

Here's something you might not know: Women have been legally allowed to go topless in public in New York City since 1992. So if you’re in Central Park or on the High Line or at one of the best beaches in New York, you have every right to take off that godforsaken bra and let your boobs feel the sun’s sweet rays (but don’t forget the sunscreen). In honor of Women’s Equality Day on Friday 26 and the GoTopless Day march through the city on Sunday 28, we rounded up four ways you can join forces with other women (and men!) to #freethenipple.

Four ways you can legally bare your breasts in NYC

Here's something you might not know: Women have been legally allowed to go topless in public in New York City since 1992. So if you’re in Central Park or on the

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Ladies, this is a women's liberation issue. I strongly urge you to head to NYC and take it off in the name of equality. But please wait for warmer weather—we wouldn't want anyone to catch cold.

 

[The Stars Tremble]

There a lot of silly laws on the books that are not enforced. Here is a sample of some regarding women -
Top craziest laws still on the books
Women and the law

Not surprisingly, many of the antiquated statutes passed in the late 1800s and early 1900s were aimed at protecting the fairer sex from unwanted attention or less-than-flattering reputations. For example, an old city ordinance in Cleveland, Ohio, prohibits women from wearing patent leather shoes in public. The reason? Shiny footwear could afford a nearby gentleman an unintentional peep show.

In many parts of the country, the price of beauty can be stiff. Women in Florida, for example, can be fined for falling asleep under a dryer in a hair salon. And if you're a single thrill-seeker, head some place else. The sunshine state also prohibits unmarried women from parachuting on Sundays.

Forget about trying to publicly adjust your stockings in either Dennison, Texas, or Bristol, Tennessee. Performing such a lewd act could land you a sentence of up to 12 months in the state penitentiary.

If you're a woman living in Michigan, you might want to check with your husband before heading to the hair stylist. According to state law, your hair belongs to your spouse and you'll need his permission before you can alter it. When visiting Charlotte, North Carolina, don't plan on packing light. According to city law, you must be swathed in at least 16 yards of fabric before stepping out into public. Even in fashion-forward New York City, there are laws concerning how a woman dresses. In the Big Apple, wearing clingy or body-hugging clothing carries a $25 dollar fine.

Make of this what you will in regards to the Arizona abortion ruling.

In my opinion, laws which have been annulled by a court or by some other law, should be mandatorily repealed by the current or next sitting of the State congress (or local governing body.) They may seem comical, but they can be used by police or citizens to hoodwink others into thinking they've broken the law when in fact they haven't. Consequences could include a confession to some other crime (actually punishable) or blackmail.

I vaguely remember a case in Florida where a man was arrested for being gay, despite the law on the books being invalid, and he was never compensated for wrongful arrest. Perhaps it was just put down to the cop reading the law but not understanding it, which is another problem really. The law shouldn't have been there at all.

 

[rhinefire]

If laws defending racist policies are no longer allowed how is a law on abortion from 1862 allowed?

 

[Noodlegawd]

If laws defending racist policies are no longer allowed how is a law on abortion from 1862 allowed?

What does one have to do with the other?

 

[rhinefire]

What does one have to do with the other?

Never mind just move along.

 

[poweRob]

Repealed!

 

[poweRob]

Repealed!

My apologies... It still has to pass the state Senate.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

So if you’re in Central Park or on the High Line or at one of the best beaches in New York

QUOTE:

What is the best beach in NYC?​

That depends on what makes a beach worth visiting. Want pristine sand and fewer crowds, the best beach is Fort Tilden Beach. If you like a more iconic beach experience with a bit of crowding, the best beach is Rockaway Beach.

Disagree. The best beach in New York is directly ACROSS FROM Rockaway Beach...it's Reynolds Channel Beach in Atlantic Beach Long Island, which also just happened to also be the back yard for some residents.

 

[Brack]

My apologies... It still has to pass the state Senate.

It recently passed within the state Senate.

The AZ Senate has repealed the 1864 abortion ban, after 2 Republicans join Dems

The Arizona Senate on Wednesday finalized repealing a near-total abortion ban that the state Supreme Court ruled earlier this month trumps a 15-week restriction that was implemented in 2022.

azmirror.com