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Here is the Evil" charlie kirk talking to a young trans

The important thing here, from the clip, is he didn't attack the woman, he didn't belittle her, he shared his thoughts and encouraged her to seek counseling. So now we are at kill a man because of his opinion that differs. He never did anything inappropriate.
 
Just lifting leftist spin talking points. And it seems to the same quote every liberal uses lol
No, they are facts that you have no idea how to respond to since your thread was so off point to begin with. Better to :ROFLMAO: and call it Left than to provide any intelligent response.
 
So, you read selectively?

His rhetoric aligned with broader efforts in right-wing media to roll back LGBTQ+ protections, including celebrating Supreme Court rulings that allowed businesses to discriminate against LGBTQ+ customers on religious grounds.
That's the LGBTQ+ lumping I was talking about.
 
Authoritarianism is a right-wing construct.

Stop telling lies.
I am sorry that you are so poorly educated, but authoritarianism afflicts both the left and right.

Pol Pot was an example of a left-wing authoritarian.
 
That's the LGBTQ+ lumping I was talking about.
Well, here's more for you, and everyone else in this thread that thinks Charlie Kirk was such an empathetic person.

Kirk adopted a traditional Christian conservative stance in his approach to many contemporary issues, telling an audience at a Trump election rally in Georgia last fall that Democrats “stand for everything God hates” and adding: “This is a Christian state. I’d like to see it stay that way.”

He also lashed out at the gay community, denouncing what he called the “LGBTQ agenda,” expressing opposition to same-sex marriage and suggesting that the Bible verse Leviticus 20:13, which endorses the execution of homosexuals, serves as “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.”

“I don’t agree with your lifestyle,” Kirk told a gay Wisconsin college student last September. “I don’t think you should introduce yourself just based on your sexuality because that’s not who you are.”

He also argued against gender-affirming care for transgender people and insisted there are only two genders, sporting a T-shirt at one Arizona rally last year that read: “xy = man.”

More recently, he discussed the burning of Pride flags, writing on X (Twitter): “We should work to overturn every conviction for those arrested, fined, or otherwise harassed for the ‘hate crime’ of doing donuts over Pride flags painted on public streets.

“It should be legal to burn a rainbow or [Black Lives Matter] flag in public.”


 
Well, here's more for you, and everyone else in this thread that thinks Charlie Kirk was such an empathetic person.

Kirk adopted a traditional Christian conservative stance in his approach to many contemporary issues, telling an audience at a Trump election rally in Georgia last fall that Democrats “stand for everything God hates” and adding: “This is a Christian state. I’d like to see it stay that way.”

He also lashed out at the gay community, denouncing what he called the “LGBTQ agenda,” expressing opposition to same-sex marriage and suggesting that the Bible verse Leviticus 20:13, which endorses the execution of homosexuals, serves as “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.”

“I don’t agree with your lifestyle,” Kirk told a gay Wisconsin college student last September. “I don’t think you should introduce yourself just based on your sexuality because that’s not who you are.”

He also argued against gender-affirming care for transgender people and insisted there are only two genders, sporting a T-shirt at one Arizona rally last year that read: “xy = man.”

More recently, he discussed the burning of Pride flags, writing on X (Twitter): “We should work to overturn every conviction for those arrested, fined, or otherwise harassed for the ‘hate crime’ of doing donuts over Pride flags painted on public streets.

“It should be legal to burn a rainbow or [Black Lives Matter] flag in public.”


So let's look at the quotes that make up your smoking gun:
  1. Don't introduce yourself by your sexual lifestyle.
  2. He doesn't think the rainbow crosswalk is sacred.
  3. He's OK with flag burning.
So where exactly is the controversy? I don't introduce myself by talking about how I ****. I also thought the left was OK with burning symbols they don't like.
 
So let's look at the quotes that make up your smoking gun:
  1. Don't introduce yourself by your sexual lifestyle.
  2. He doesn't think the rainbow crosswalk is sacred.
  3. He's OK with flag burning.
So where exactly is the controversy? I don't introduce myself by talking about how I ****. I also thought the left was OK with burning symbols they don't like.
I will never win over anyone in this forum who is homophobic and plays dumb so I'll leave it as it is.
 
I'm "homophobic" because I don't introduce myself by talking about whom and how I ****?
You will clearly never quit until you have the last word, so goodbye. That's not a positive trait BTW.
 
And here are Kirk's comments/actions against LGBTQ rights, when not in front of a trans person. Are you really quoting Meghan Kelly, who spends her time criticizing Madonna's age and the Jeff Bezos wedding? She is a hack. You might as well be watching The Real Housewives. Yes, he was real good at faking empathy when he was in front of an audience. Don't try to paint him as some kind of healer of humanity. You really do need to do some research before you start a completely clueless OP.

Kirk, aged 31, built his reputation as a staunch supporter of right-wing ideologies, often courting controversy with inflammatory remarks. His views on LGBTQ issues were among the most divisive. He frequently described progressive stances on gender and sexuality as “sexual anarchy” and condemned LGBTQ-inclusive education, arguing that it eroded cultural identity.

In multiple broadcasts and public appearances, Kirk used anti-transgender slurs and celebrated being able to do so on platforms like Rumble. He labelled transgender individuals as “groomers” and advocated for banning gender-affirming care, even suggesting that providers should face “Nuremberg-style trials”.

His rhetoric aligned with broader efforts in right-wing media to roll back LGBTQ+ protections, including celebrating Supreme Court rulings that allowed businesses to discriminate against LGBTQ+ customers on religious grounds.


Kirk’s comments extended to dangerous misinformation. Just moments before his fatal shooting, he responded to a question about trans mass shooters by saying “Too many,” despite data showing the vast majority of such incidents are committed by cisgender men.

His influence was not limited to media. Kirk played a key role in shaping conservative youth discourse through Turning Point USA, a platform that has been criticised for hosting events and promoting narratives hostile to LGBTQ+ communities. Despite this, he was invited as the first guest on California Governor Gavin Newsom’s podcast earlier this year, a move that drew backlash given Kirk’s history of incendiary remarks.

The problem here is trying to normalize the idea that being trans is easy and anyone can do it in the schools.

The very first think that must be considered is you do not indoctrinate other peoples children you your ideals about anything sexual. this is the biggest issue that I see. In public schools forcing a view that parents do not want their kids exposed to. You bolded the "condemned LGBTQ-inclusive education," and I agree with not allowing it in the K-12. At least elementary schools.

Children want to be dancers, ballerinas, firemen, astronauts, you name it. They grow out of it. So it is "grooming" when you take a childish with, and run with it, and try to help make a boy a girl, or vise versa.

Just leave other people';s children alone, and do what you want with your life. But hands off other people's kids. Period!
 
Yeah we were all aware he could be wildly two-faced, but thanks for the demonstration.
I have not seen that alleged side of him. Every video I saw, he was always insightful and respectful.
 
You cited the magazine article, but it doesn't cite its text. What does "anti-transgender slurs" mean, and who was targeted? I remember there WERE a number of widely reported cases in which transgender people were trying to convince kids to go forward hastily with such treatments. Calling those individual people "groomers" wouldn't have been out of line. Of course, many other transgender people are not any such thing.

Now he's not going to pass a 100-point liberal inspection of every comment he's made. But compared to what's out there, the man was not too bad. We have to bear in mind that people like him were much more accepting of sexual diversity than "liberals" were a few decades ago. There was a time when gay marriage seemed completely implausible ever to happen at all. At some point, I mean, where women weren't allowed to complain about an erect willy in the women's dressing room, we have to recognize that there is some excess in the transgender movement that has undermined LGBT+ rights in general, and that conceding the right points to the right people wouldn't be a terrible loss.
That's because it came from some talking head that runs with a narrative that is a lie.
 
The problem here is trying to normalize the idea that being trans is easy and anyone can do it in the schools.

The very first think that must be considered is you do not indoctrinate other peoples children you your ideals about anything sexual. this is the biggest issue that I see. In public schools forcing a view that parents do not want their kids exposed to. You bolded the "condemned LGBTQ-inclusive education," and I agree with not allowing it in the K-12. At least elementary schools.

Children want to be dancers, ballerinas, firemen, astronauts, you name it. They grow out of it. So it is "grooming" when you take a childish with, and run with it, and try to help make a boy a girl, or vise versa.

Just leave other people';s children alone, and do what you want with your life. But hands off other people's kids. Period!
Maybe try reading the posts in the thread before responding. Specifically Post #19.
 
You will clearly never quit until you have the last word, so goodbye. That's not a positive trait BTW.
I'm debating the topic. You're posting to get the last word.

I'm glad I could help straighten that out for you. You're welcome.
 
Maybe try reading the posts in the thread before responding. Specifically Post #19.
But you bolded the part about indoctrination children: "and condemned LGBTQ-inclusive education." It became part of your rant. I will bet that what was quoted is inaccurate in many ways. the placed a narrative on something without quoting what he said. This is a common practice when you want to villanize someone by lying about them.
 
His rhetoric aligned with broader efforts in right-wing media to roll back LGBTQ+ protections, including celebrating Supreme Court rulings that allowed businesses to discriminate against LGBTQ+ customers on religious grounds.
That issue needs to be picked apart carefully. The decision about the birthday cake was widely lambasted by liberal sources, but a cake baker is not just a pair of hands. If you want to get a cake for Hitler's 125th birthday or celebrating the first anniversary of somebody being shot, they're not going to do it. They don't want it in their shop representing them. The baker is required to do business with everyone, rather than refusing to do business with somebody because they heard he's gay; but that doesn't mean they have to write anything they're told to write. Freedom of expression is important and we should all have been more stalwart in upholding it, because we see now how quickly a little lack of complaint turns into a big AI searching through everything a person ever wrote looking for an excuse to fire them.
 
“It should be legal to burn a rainbow or [Black Lives Matter] flag in public.”
Freedom of speech is important. It is legal to burn an American flag in public. I wouldn't suggest trying it, but per the constitution it should even be legal to burn an Israeli flag in public.
 

I got news for Megan, every evil person has one or two good moments. That moment didn't get him killed. It was the many years of hatred, misogyny, and bigotry.

She's thinks cherry picking one mild video out of thousands is going to change history. This is why I don't listen to this RW hogwash.

The sanewashing of Charlie Kirk has already begun.
 
I got news for Megan, every evil person has one or two good moments. That moment didn't get him killed. It was the many years of hatred, misogyny, and bigotry.
What got him killed was some kid committing murder. That's what got him killed.

If everybody who believes something stupid gets killed tonight, the sun will rise on a wild world set free of Man tomorrow.
 
The important thing here, from the clip, is he didn't attack the woman, he didn't belittle her, he shared his thoughts and encouraged her to seek counseling. So now we are at kill a man because of his opinion that differs. He never did anything inappropriate.
First of all, he was killed by a nutcase. A mentality I'll person.
Second, judging an entire party (half of America) by the actions of one fruitcake is totally wrong.

By that token, we should be totally justified in our negative judgment about MAGA because of Trump's actions on democrats being killed. Or should I say, lack thereof. I don't recall a Minnesota lawmaker getting a ride on AF2 or a medal.
In fact, Trump basically treats anyone who disagrees with him as his enemy.

Great example Donnie!!

I'm not sure how America recovers from this era.
 
Ah, "gender-affirming care." You mean sexually mutilating children, right?

How is that misinformation? Also, do you understand what a rate is?

Hostile to what? Sexually mutilating children?

All plastic surgery is “mutilation”. Should all plastiic surgery be banned?
 
I got news for Megan, every evil person has one or two good moments. That moment didn't get him killed. It was the many years of hatred, misogyny, and bigotry.

She's thinks cherry picking one mild video out of thousands is going to change history. This is why I don't listen to this RW hogwash.

The sanewashing of Charlie Kirk has already begun.
And you're either just making stuff up for your tribe or you've never investigated because he has moment after moment after Moment Like That.
that's how he presented himself as a rule at these encounters with trans people and activists.
 
No, they are facts that you have no idea how to respond to since your thread was so off point to begin with. Better to :ROFLMAO: and call it Left than to provide any intelligent response.
I know exactly how to respond how about you quote his worst "bigotry" and let's take a look at it
 
All of this is a distraction.

Kirk's killer was a white straight conservative Christian.

That's all you need to know. Just own it and deal with it.

Valhalla!
 
Leftists here do not listen to what he ever said. They listen to what their fellow illiberal authoritarians CLAIM he said.

All they know in this world is what team they are on and who to hate.
Yep that's exactly the problem you can see it on these boards parading the same little group of out of context partial quotes that they had to painstakingly dig up through the mass volumes of him being polite and respectful.
And they even bigger problem is a decent minority of them know it's all fake but propagated anyway for the tribe
 
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