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Hegseth intends to rename USNS Harvey Milk

His service was not "honorable" because he received an "OTHER than honorable discharge."
Milk’s service was honorable. The military’s policy regarding gays was dishonorable.

“The USNS Harvey Milk was named in 2016 by then-Navy Secretary Ray Mabus. Milk’s family, with a long record of military service, approved the tribute. His nephew, Stuart Milk, declined the Navy’s offer to upgrade Harvey’s discharge in 2021 to preserve the historical record of discrimination against LGBTQ service members.”
 
No recognition of women's roles in the military, no acknowledgement of gays and will not recognize Gay Pride Month this June. Senator Joseph McCarthy are you enjoying this?!
 
How does renaming an oil supply ship improve morale?

Take me through the steps.
Well, for one thing look how this country has prospered since TACO changed the name of the Gulf of Mexico.:poop: Let's hope he does not name ships after convicted felons.
 
No recognition of women's roles in the military, no acknowledgement of gays and will not recognize Gay Pride Month this June. Senator Joseph McCarthy are you enjoying this?!
They didn't recognize gay pride month? It's a military, why would it? If I walk down main street, I bet 99% of the stores don't do that.
 
I wish the TACO fluffers would get on with real work instead of petty culture wars.
It would be nice if the DoD would show where it cut real fraud and waste while still demanding the budget be increased to 1 trillion. So far, no real fraud or waste has been uncovered, MAGA wants to spend millions on renaming army bases and holding Red Square style parades but still no budget for Congress to consider. Somewhere the rhetoric doesn't match the actions, imagine my surprise... ✌️
 
They didn't recognize gay pride month? It's a military, why would it? If I walk down main street, I bet 99% of the stores don't do that.
Goodie for you! Now draft the store employees when we go to war. With women and gays no longer recognized would you vote the same for blacks, Hispanics and Asians??
 
They didn't recognize gay pride month? It's a military, why would it? If I walk down main street, I bet 99% of the stores don't do that.
But most cities, even very red state OKC holds at least a pride parade. Most cities have black history events. Culture doesn't end when we put on our uniform and take the oath. 'Merica is so unique because of all the cultures we incorporate.... :unsure:
Let's embrace Taco Tuesday and Skittles Saturdays... taste the rainbow.... ✌️
 
If it ain't broken, don't fix it.
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… you're a sailor in the Navy and you have to tell people that that's the name of your ship?
Why should anyone serving onboard USNS HARVEY MILK be embarrassed or ashamed?
Not a good mix.
Only to insecure homophobes.
I'm sure there are other government items that would be better suited to that name. Maybe a dance hall or bath house or something.
The Navy doesn’t have any dance halls, and sure as shit never had any bath houses.

You’ve been watching too many old war movies, and far/alt-right fake news.
That's not even considering the obvious passive aggressive aspect off it.
What “obvious passive aggressive aspect”?
 
But most cities, even very red state OKC holds at least a pride parade. Most cities have black history events. Culture doesn't end when we put on our uniform and take the oath. 'Merica is so unique because of all the cultures we incorporate....
You can have a gay month if you want. No reason for the military to recognize a group because of who the like to have sex with. It's kind of ridiculous.
 
The Navy doesn’t have any dance halls, and sure as shit never had any bath houses.
Well, maybe there just isn't a good place to use it then.
What “obvious passive aggressive aspect”?
Oh, please. Gee, it's just a regular naming of ship. What, sailors might not like it? Like it's a slap in the face? We had no idea! I guess no pink uniforms then!
 
Just typical MAGA thought processes. They start with their bigotry and then come up whatever they can think of to support it. Doesn't have to be logical since the rest oi MAGAs will support it no matter how obtuse or dim witted their thinking is. Also any lies they come up with to support their position will also be backed up by the rest of the party. It is just how bigots do things. The only difference is that bigots used to be dispersed through all political leanings. Now we have the MAGA party that has managed to round up the vast majority of bigots and get them all inside the same tent. What used to be the Republican Party has turned into something that is totally dominated by bigots. In fact they will vote for anyone simply based on their level of intolerance for others.
In this thread they start with the fact that they don't like gays or anything that treats them with respect. Then try to back it up with anything they can think of. If Milk hadn't been gay they would have been fine with a boat being named after him. Look around. They are trying to change all kinds of names that are named after people they don't like. In most cases the root of it is their bigotry or in a few it's Trump trying to kiss up to those that give him and his family money. Why do you think he really cares whether it's the Persian Gulf or the Arabian Gulf. He and his family get billions from Saudi Arabia. It's his way of kissing their royal behinds. That and letting them hunt and kill whomever the want to in our country and sending their dissidents back into their "loving embrace". Or heaven forbid that we name a gulf after Mexicans.
 
Conservatives need to become socialized and acculturated into a higher level of civilization than they can do on their own. Or ever want to do. No pain no gain.
 
To be fair, what did Harvey Milk do that should have given him the honor of having a Navy ship named after him? His highest achievement was getting elected to the San Francisco Board of Supervisors. He was actually more known for his murder giving Diane Feinstein notoriety that ultimate led to her Senate career.
Obviously, we should also strip Jackie Robinson’s name from any street sign or other public property. Why would being the first of your persecuted group to attain recognition and suffer for it entitle you to any honor?
 
You are the one asserting it is a waste of money. I have pointed out both why I think the action was taken, and why it is a valid one IMO.



Out of curiosity, have you served in any branch of the U.S. Military? I ask because your posts don't give the impression that you have because it's clear you have no idea about the importance of individual pride, esprit de corps, and high morale among the services.



His service was not "honorable" because he received an "OTHER than honorable discharge." Do try to pay attention. :coffee:
The military dishonored itself by discharging him. Things have gotten better and more honorable since.
 
The Navy historically has named ships to honor individuals who have made significant contributions to the nation, the Navy, or maritime history. What did Harvey Milk do to earn this designation over other warriors?
He was a pioneer of sorts for a persecuted group. Much like Jackie Robinson, he helped make our nation better.
 
Navy ships should be named after sailors who either received the Navy Cross medal, or after sailors who received the Congressional Medal of Honor.
Milk didn't even get an honorable discharge.
Why was that?
 
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