Heatwave in China is the most severe ever recorded in the world

[Jack2aTee]

If global warming/climate change is not making you nervous yet it's time to read this article. It might wake you up to the severity of the problem that's about to hit us like a tidal wave:

"On 18 August, the temperature in Chongqing in Sichuan province reached 45°C (113°F), the highest ever recorded in China outside the desert-dominated region of Xinjiang. On 20 August, the temperature in the city didn’t fall below 34.9°C (94.8°F), the highest minimum temperature ever recorded in China in August. The maximum temperature was 43.7°C (110.7°F).

It is the longest and hottest heatwave in China since national records began in 1961. According to weather historian Maximiliano Herrera, who monitors extreme temperatures around the world, it is the most severe heatwave recorded anywhere.

“This combines the most extreme intensity with the most extreme length with an incredibly huge area all at the same time,” he says. “There is nothing in world climatic history which is even minimally comparable to what is happening in China.”

Heatwave in China is the most severe ever recorded in the world

A long spell of extreme hot and dry weather is affecting energy, water supplies and food production across China

www.newscientist.com

 

[NOVA66]

If global warming/climate change is not making you nervous yet it's time to read this article. It might wake you up to the severity of the problem that's about to hit us like a tidal wave:

"On 18 August, the temperature in Chongqing in Sichuan province reached 45°C (113°F), the highest ever recorded in China outside the desert-dominated region of Xinjiang. On 20 August, the temperature in the city didn’t fall below 34.9°C (94.8°F), the highest minimum temperature ever recorded in China in August. The maximum temperature was 43.7°C (110.7°F).

It is the longest and hottest heatwave in China since national records began in 1961. According to weather historian Maximiliano Herrera, who monitors extreme temperatures around the world, it is the most severe heatwave recorded anywhere.

“This combines the most extreme intensity with the most extreme length with an incredibly huge area all at the same time,” he says. “There is nothing in world climatic history which is even minimally comparable to what is happening in China.”

Heatwave in China is the most severe ever recorded in the world

A long spell of extreme hot and dry weather is affecting energy, water supplies and food production across China

www.newscientist.com

So China is feeling the heat.

 

[Crovax]

Report: China emissions exceed all developed nations combined

The country is responsible for 27% of global greenhouse gas emissions, according to a new report.

www.bbc.com

Burn China Burn

 

[bongsaway]

Report: China emissions exceed all developed nations combined

The country is responsible for 27% of global greenhouse gas emissions, according to a new report.

www.bbc.com

Burn China Burn

And all of those cheap goods they produce will be no more. The isolationist america first people would be the first to complain.

 

[watsup]

If global warming/climate change is not making you nervous yet it's time to read this article. It might wake you up to the severity of the problem that's about to hit us like a tidal wave:

"On 18 August, the temperature in Chongqing in Sichuan province reached 45°C (113°F), the highest ever recorded in China outside the desert-dominated region of Xinjiang. On 20 August, the temperature in the city didn’t fall below 34.9°C (94.8°F), the highest minimum temperature ever recorded in China in August. The maximum temperature was 43.7°C (110.7°F).

It is the longest and hottest heatwave in China since national records began in 1961. According to weather historian Maximiliano Herrera, who monitors extreme temperatures around the world, it is the most severe heatwave recorded anywhere.

“This combines the most extreme intensity with the most extreme length with an incredibly huge area all at the same time,” he says. “There is nothing in world climatic history which is even minimally comparable to what is happening in China.”

Heatwave in China is the most severe ever recorded in the world

A long spell of extreme hot and dry weather is affecting energy, water supplies and food production across China

www.newscientist.com

Nah, there’s no global warming.

 

[LostInSeattle]

Report: China emissions exceed all developed nations combined

The country is responsible for 27% of global greenhouse gas emissions, according to a new report.

www.bbc.com

Burn China Burn

???

 

[EdwinWillers]

 

[Bullseye]

If global warming/climate change is not making you nervous yet it's time to read this article. It might wake you up to the severity of the problem that's about to hit us like a tidal wave:

"On 18 August, the temperature in Chongqing in Sichuan province reached 45°C (113°F), the highest ever recorded in China outside the desert-dominated region of Xinjiang. On 20 August, the temperature in the city didn’t fall below 34.9°C (94.8°F), the highest minimum temperature ever recorded in China in August. The maximum temperature was 43.7°C (110.7°F).

It is the longest and hottest heatwave in China since national records began in 1961. According to weather historian Maximiliano Herrera, who monitors extreme temperatures around the world, it is the most severe heatwave recorded anywhere.

“This combines the most extreme intensity with the most extreme length with an incredibly huge area all at the same time,” he says. “There is nothing in world climatic history which is even minimally comparable to what is happening in China.”

Heatwave in China is the most severe ever recorded in the world

A long spell of extreme hot and dry weather is affecting energy, water supplies and food production across China

www.newscientist.com

Hot spells are part of normal weather occurrences. The ability to read and report tempurature has only existed for about 300 out of the past hundred million years.

 

[EdwinWillers]

...but virtually every one of them insists we can change the earth's climate.

 

[longview]

We have to consider that the amount AGW would affect the temperature 1C, so anything above that would have some other cause, like urban heat island effect.

 

[watsup]

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...but virtually every one of them insists we can change the earth's climate.

You clearly haven’t a clue about AGW and associated climate change.

 

[LostInSeattle]

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...but virtually every one of them insists we can change the earth's climate.

Explain how those two phenomena are in any way similar.

 

[Lord of Planar]

If global warming/climate change is not making you nervous yet it's time to read this article. It might wake you up to the severity of the problem that's about to hit us like a tidal wave:

"On 18 August, the temperature in Chongqing in Sichuan province reached 45°C (113°F), the highest ever recorded in China outside the desert-dominated region of Xinjiang. On 20 August, the temperature in the city didn’t fall below 34.9°C (94.8°F), the highest minimum temperature ever recorded in China in August. The maximum temperature was 43.7°C (110.7°F).

It is the longest and hottest heatwave in China since national records began in 1961. According to weather historian Maximiliano Herrera, who monitors extreme temperatures around the world, it is the most severe heatwave recorded anywhere.

“This combines the most extreme intensity with the most extreme length with an incredibly huge area all at the same time,” he says. “There is nothing in world climatic history which is even minimally comparable to what is happening in China.”

Heatwave in China is the most severe ever recorded in the world

A long spell of extreme hot and dry weather is affecting energy, water supplies and food production across China

www.newscientist.com

So?

Can you say "Urban Heat Island Effect?"

This area has over 8 million people, and as population centers grow, so does the urban heat island effect.

The ureban heat island effect can cause tempertures inside a city to exceded ten dregrees above the temperture is it were just the natural vegetation.

 

[Jack2aTee]

So?

Can you say "Urban Heat Island Effect?"

This area has over 8 million people, and as population centers grow, so does the urban heat island effect.

The ureban heat island effect can cause tempertures inside a city to exceded ten dregrees above the temperture is it were just the natural vegetation.

Why in 2022? Why not 2000?

 

[Jack2aTee]

Hot spells are part of normal weather occurrences. The ability to read and report tempurature has only existed for about 300 out of the past hundred million years.

We may indeed be going into an extreme heat cycle. Global warming/climate change can indeed be a natural occurrence. People are talking about this being a purely man-made effect and I disagree with that. Man-made carbons may be contributing but it is not the sole cause, as if we cut all emissions we'll go back to 1950. One way or the other, man-made or natural, we are entering a period of extreme heat and weather disruption that will devastate mankind within the next 20 years. My argument is be ready for an extreme temperature rise of 2-3C and their effects on civilization.

 

[longview]

Why in 2022? Why not 2000?

Weather! Weather patterns change, a persistent high pressure in the right location combined with overcast skies,
can change conditions a lot.

 

[rickc]

All I can say is right wing propaganda is very effective.

Deniers are certainly loyal to their information sources.

 

[Lord of Planar]

All I can say is right wing propaganda is very effective.

Deniers are certainly loyal to their information sources.

What about this sentiment:

All I can say is left wing propaganda is very effective.

The indoctrinated are certainly loyal to their information sources.

 

[Jack2aTee]

Weather! Weather patterns change, a persistent high pressure in the right location combined with overcast skies,
can change conditions a lot.

So you believe the world will go back to the weather patterns of 100 years ago and all the forest fires, droughts, floods and 120F temperatures setting records all over the world will go away?

 

[Lord of Planar]

So you believe the world will go back to the weather patterns of 100 years ago and all the forest fires, droughts, floods and 120F temperatures setting records all over the world will go away?

Weather is cyclical. Numerous things perturb the cycles. There is no doubt that we do have an effect. However, I see no reason to spend countless trillions of dollars reducing CO2 until we get a handle on land use changes, and stop the physical polluting. Then when we are ready to mitigate or eliminate CO2 production, it needs to be world wide. No sense in us doing it unless we get all nations to do it too.

The USA has already done more than any other nation to reduce CO2 output.

 

[longview]

So you believe the world will go back to the weather patterns of 100 years ago and all the forest fires, droughts, floods and 120F temperatures setting records all over the world will go away?

No, but I think records like this are much more related to land use change and local weather conditions than CO2 based climate change.

 

[Jack2aTee]

No, but I think records like this are much more related to land use change and local weather conditions than CO2 based climate change.

As I stated elsewhere, this likely is a natural warming trend exacerbated by Co2 and methane emission that are on a severe feedback loop. Doesn't change the fact that more extreme, likely deadly and civilization-shattering temperatures are probably here for the next 10,000 years until earth enters another ice age.

 

[longview]

As I stated elsewhere, this likely is a natural warming trend exacerbated by Co2 and methane emission that are on a severe feedback loop. Doesn't change the fact that more extreme, likely deadly and civilization-shattering temperatures are probably here for the next 10,000 years until earth enters another ice age.

That is a bit of a myth, The CO2 forced warming is an average of about 0.64C, and that is spread between the high and low temperature,
with most affecting the low. so say the record low, was 3C above the normal low, at most 0.64C of that was from CO2 forcing.
The balance was from weather, and land use change.
Also almost no one is saying that AGW has the potential to be civilization-shattering.

 

[Lord of Planar]

As I stated elsewhere, this likely is a natural warming trend exacerbated by Co2 and methane emission that are on a severe feedback loop. Doesn't change the fact that more extreme, likely deadly and civilization-shattering temperatures are probably here for the next 10,000 years until earth enters another ice age.

Some believe we should be starting a new ice age, but have halted it.

Wouldn't it be funny if we stopped producing CO2 just to start a new ice age?

There is zero doubt that urban areas are hotter than the natural habitat. The urban heat island effect is real. there is no way around it, unless we go back to grass huts. The natural areas don't heat up as much as our rural and urban areas.

On top of that, there is no way to accurately adjust then observed temperatures to see the real global temperature changes. More than 95% of the monitoring stations are withing the range of the heat island effect, and correcting to a change discarding the city effects is flat out impossible to do accurately.

And a hint...

It's CO2. Not Co2.

Two oxygen atoms and one carbon atom. Not two cobalt atoms.

As for severe feedback loops. Impossible. That's another topic yet.

 

[Jack2aTee]

That is a bit of a myth, The CO2 forced warming is an average of about 0.64C, and that is spread between the high and low temperature,
with most affecting the low. so say the record low, was 3C above the normal low, at most 0.64C of that was from CO2 forcing.
The balance was from weather, and land use change.
Also almost no one is saying that AGW has the potential to be civilization-shattering.

You may be having an intellectual debate with me and that's perfectly okay. All I try to point out is if you're arguing civilization is treating climate change as a temporary hiccup that will fix itself in the next few years I think you are way off the mark.

https://bigthink.com/13-8/civilization-climate-change-existential-threat/