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Nail on the head.
The horror story you won't hear because it's a stupid teabagger lie. You going to scream "death panels" too?
Let's keep this debate in reality.
When you have no response it is a teabagger lie. Sorry but I showed a op ed article about what happened. You can deny that there was Patient dumping but the fact do not support that.
This is what Obama care will give us. Patient dumping of the poor to sub standard facilities.
You really have failed to make that connection.
When you have no response it is a teabagger lie. Sorry but I showed a op ed article about what happened. You can deny that there was Patient dumping but the fact do not support that.
Here is you Bi-Partisan democrats.
It always matters, and education and transportation are also debateable.Whatever, it's not stealing it is taxes for services. Whether that is education or transportation or healthcare doesn't matter. They are community services.
Which community, again? Global? Race-based? Internet based? My neighborhood? My state, nation, peer group? It's arbitrary, and unecessary. I jointly pay for trash pickup, this is fine, it's relatively equally distributed and we all pay similar. See the difference?Now in the case of healthcare, we have certain people who need care and cannot get it on the private market. These are the poor, the old and the sick. These people should receive community healthcare. It's a community service and everyone in the community should help pay.
Health insurance is something you purchase, with money, that you earn. Why would you confuse it with something that grew on trees?I have yet to see a privately run insurance system that will pay for the poor, the old and the sick.
It always matters, and education and transportation are also debateable.
The philosophy behind it is bunk.
1. It's removing personal responsibility from the system. Everyone knows you teach people how to fish, you don't just give them fish.
2. You are incentivizing laziness and following, and discincentivizing leadership and hard work. You are not only NOT teaching them how to fish, but when you hand them a free fish, you actually stole it frome someone who took the time and risk to go catch the GD fish in the first place.
Which community, again? Global? Race-based? Internet based? My neighborhood? My state, nation, peer group? It's arbitrary, and unecessary. I jointly pay for trash pickup, this is fine, it's relatively equally distributed and we all pay similar. See the difference?
Health insurance is something you purchase, with money, that you earn. Why would you confuse it with something that grew on trees?
You really have failed to make that connection.
I already posted a link to the real program - from the source - not the teabagger lie. Just posting some goofy story from a lame source doesn't prove anything. Those are a dime a dozen.
Death panels!
Democrats are supposed to be bi-partisan? How can one party be bi-partisan?
The Democrats are a large majority in the Senate. Why should they let a minority hold things back?
It's clear that the Republicans have been the ones unwilling to compromise or deal or even participate in this process, the whole time.
You are not proposing a viable solution. All you seem to have is your philosophy. That doesn't solve the problem of how we as a society provide care for the poor, the old and the sick. It is not a question of whether those people have "skin in the game". Aside from the poor who cannot pay, the others will pay something, although perhaps not the true cost of care. It will be subsidized.
Or are you really proposing that the poor, the old and the sick pay the full cost of their care?
If I am not mistaken the old and the poor are covered by medicare and/ or medicade. So the real question is who are the uninsured and how do we fix that problem.
To the best of my knowledge no one has yet proposed cpmphrehensive and AFFORDABLE insurance for all. It seems that is why the public has not rallied around any proposal. None of the bills out there seem to give all Americans affordable health care.
If I am not mistaken the old and the poor are covered by medicare and/ or medicade. So the real question is who are the uninsured and how do we fix that problem.
To the best of my knowledge no one has yet proposed cpmphrehensive and AFFORDABLE insurance for all. It seems that is why the public has not rallied around any proposal. None of the bills out there seem to give all Americans affordable health care.
You did not show how the hospital was patient dumping you showed the law that allowed Michele to do that. I showed how it pissed people off.
You just showed justification for the partisan tactics of the democrats and condoning their not being Bi-Partisan.
No, I showed how the program actually works, which isn't patient-dumping. It's designed to alleviate the need for patient-dumping, which lots of hospitals do. The fact that you don't understand it doesn't change that.
Uh, no.
Have the Republicans been bipartisan on this?
The fact is Obama found a way to dump the poor on others because she wanted her beds for paying customers.
No the GOP has been locked out of the process
Well, no, that's not a fact. It's a falsehood.
She didn't need to "find a way" to do it. Hospitals do this all the time. She found a way to avoid it.
No more teabagging.
Nice try but she did patient dumping.
Program Linked to First Lady Michelle Obama Accused of Patient 'Dumping' - Hannity - FOXNews.com
Conservative, I just noticed something interesting about one of the points you keep making. I ignored your point before because it was nonsense, so never bothered to check and see if was even accurate.
Reread Article 1, Section 8 of the US Constitution carefully.
So now you throw a Faux News story at me? One that says she' "accused" of it?
No. Just look at the program itself. I posted the link.
Sorry, no more teabagger lies.
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