Michael Magidson and Jose Merel beat, tied up and strangled 17-year-old Gwen Araujo after discovering she was biologically male, the court heard.
Her body was found in a shallow grave in the Sierra Nevada hills soon after the October 2002 killing in Newark.
The men face 15 years to life in jail for murder but were cleared of hate crime charges.
epr64 said:Well, I was a bit surprised here. I don't have all the elements of course, but can someone explain why this isn't considered a hate crime??
Full article is here.
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epr64 said:Well, I was a bit surprised here. I don't have all the elements of course, but can someone explain why this isn't considered a hate crime??
Full article is here.
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alex said:"Hate crime" laws are not needed. There are laws that already protect us all. Providing a special law for "hate-crimes" (I do not fully understand this name seeing as how all violent crimes are the result of hate) is putting one group of people above the rest. This is wrong no matter what way it is looked at.
vauge said:How can one commit cold blooded murder WITHOUT hate?
I agree with Navy on this. Hate crimes should not exist.
scottyz said:Sounds like a hate crime to me. The crime was purely motivated by hatred of a particular lifestyle.
Not all murderers kill because they hate their victim.
Trajan Octavian Titus said:I say Mustapha Mond.(if you don't get the MM reference don't feel to bad they conceal that type of info. in books). heh heh.
Navy Pride said:A perfect example is when those white guys in texas tied that black guy behind their truck and drug him to his death........The usual suspects Sharpton and Jackson wanted them charged with hate crimes......Well there was no hate crime laws in Texas so when they were tried they were convicted and received the maximum sentence.....Two received the death sentence and one got life without parole........I don't know special hate crimes could make those sentences more severe......
mixedmedia said:I actually agree with you. But don't you think that someone who spraypaints swastikas on the house of a Jewish family should be ajudged more harshly than a subway graffitist? There are some acts committed in the name of prejudice or bias that are made more serious than the broadly defined, mildly penalized categories of crime they fall into.
And it has nothing to do with thought policing. It is ACT policing.
JOHNYJ said:EPR 64 / # 9
They may have killed him in a rage over being tricked . Unless it can be proven that they went looking for anyone of his type,how is it group hate.
Murder doesn't require hate,just like murderers aren't all insane as some liberals would have you think .
JOHNYJ said:EPR 64 / # 9
murderers aren't all insane as some liberals would have you think .
kal-el said:You have to be a sick individual to harm someone. IMO, we need to get rid of the death penalty. Who says we have the right to take someone's life coldly, in a pre-meditated manner?
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