walrus said:With less than a month to go before the release of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince I was curious to know if there are any strong feelings for or against the series.
How is she teaching satanism? Satan isn't brought up as a character in the books. Religion isn't really brought up either. The closest is when the characters celebrate Christmas.Quertol said:Teaching the occult to children is just plain wrong...
That woman is a satanist...
shuamort said:How is she teaching satanism? Satan isn't brought up as a character in the books. Religion isn't really brought up either. The closest is when the characters celebrate Christmas.
By cult, do you mean christianity?Quertol said:One does not have to mention the name of Satan to teach the lessons of that cult...
shuamort said:By cult, do you mean christianity?
Oh, because Satan is a part of the christian religion, one would think that they're part and parcel of each other.Quertol said:No Satanism is the cult...
shuamort said:Oh, because Satan is a part of the christian religion, one would think that they're part and parcel of each other.
Of course witchcraft doesn't equal Satanism as you know. Confusing the two would be silly at best.Quertol said:Satanism and Christianity are 2 completely different things. While Christians do believe in Satan, they by no means hold the same type of devotion and adoraation of him that the satanists do. In Christianity, Satan is the accuser of the people of God, in Satanism he is the object of worship.
shuamort said:Of course witchcraft doesn't equal Satanism as you know. Confusing the two would be silly at best.
Quertol said:Teaching the occult to children is just plain wrong...
That woman is a satanist...
Urethra Franklin said:These books are sold as works as fiction. Children know it's only a story.
Far more dangerous is the bible, which is often pushed on children as fact. That is dangerous, and extremely evil.
Are you perhaps a tad jealous that JK Rowling's storytelling skills have transformed her from a poor single mum on state benefits to the richest woman in the UK? I thought United Statesians loved rags to riches stories? Isn't that the formula of Hollywood trash? Doesn't that typify the United Staesian dream, to have "made it"? Or do you get bitter when it's a European who manages to do it?
Quertol said:I have no malice to seeing some one do well. I do have a problem with a Satanist writing a book that is made specifically to entice children into certain behaviors that are intolerable. I don't like quite a few books, including those written by Rowling...
As far as the Bible being more dangerous, how is that? Give some examples of empirical proof that the bible is wrong in any way. Show me what you are talking about...
Urethra Franklin said:It is wrong to teach children that a virgin birth is possible. It is not, period.
Historians believe Mary was a 14 year old girl raped by a Roman solidier. It's possible. She may also have been the Jerusalem bike for all we know. There are many possible explanations, but one thing is sure, that sperm didn't reach that egg without penetrative sex. Unless she was part of a lesbian self-insemination co-operative.
How do you know Joseph was an upstanding Jew (especially since this was his 2nd wife IIRC).Quertol said:And which Historians have you been listening to? Try the fact that Joseph was an upstanding Jew, and that he couldn't have married her without her being a virgin...
shuamort said:How do you know Joseph was an upstanding Jew (especially since this was his 2nd wife IIRC).
Quertol said:I have no malice to seeing some one do well. I do have a problem with a Satanist writing a book that is made specifically to entice children into certain behaviors that are intolerable. I don't like quite a few books, including those written by Rowling...
As far as the Bible being more dangerous, how is that? Give some examples of empirical proof that the bible is wrong in any way. Show me what you are talking about...
Proof? Well, I don't believe in the bible, so calling something proof is a bit beyond me. But I can tell you that some sects of Christianity believe that Mary was a virgin all of her life. The problem arises when in Matthew 13:55Quertol said:Now how do you say that this was his 2nd wife? Where is the proof?
Jesus suddenly has siblings. The explanation is that Joseph was previously married and had offspring with that wife and not the Virgin Mary thus keeping her virginal."Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?"
Urethra Franklin said:These books are sold as works as fiction. Children know it's only a story.
Far more dangerous is the bible, which is often pushed on children as fact. That is dangerous, and extremely evil.
The Catholic take, however, is that the words have yet another meaning: cousins, or perhaps Joseph's children by a previous marriage. This tortured reading is necessary so as not to contradict the aforementioned doctrine of the virgin birth. Just so we're clear, the VB does not mean the Immaculate Conception, the belief that Mary was free of original sin, which was declared Catholic dogma in 1854. Virgin birth means that Mary remained a virgin despite having conceived Jesus.
shuamort said:Here's a bit more info:
galenrox said:Wait, are you dead serious that this book pisses people off? I mean, christ, there've been stories about witches and wizards as long as any of us has been alive! Sleeping beauty anyone? I mean the evil stepmother had a mirror with a dude LIVING INSIDE who could see EVERYTHING! What about the Rohl Dahl book The Witches, or the TV show Charmed, or Bewitched? Where're the protests on those?
I mean I'm far from unbiased, because I love the books, but I mean, THE HELL IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE! IT'S A ****ING STORY!
That may be true according to your faith, but some people, such as the Catholics, believe that Mary remained a virgin her entire life.Quertol said:Its hard to understand I'm sure... After Mary had Jesus she had other children...
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