“Antifa” means “anti-facist’.

[CaughtInThe]

I am pro-democracy and pro-human rights. Try not to forget that or your posts will continue to read like clumsy attempts to troll.

No, you're a fake libertarian who supports MAGA and it's fascism in lots of ways.

And you know what's really funny? You think, in real life, that the people around you don't know that about you. They all do.

 

[Grand Mal]

In the future, I recommend you be less gullible.

Which is the truth? ANTIFA are fascists, ANTIFA are Marxists or ANTIFA are anarchists?
And how can you tell? Have you got access to some kind of statement of mission or manifesto that the rest of us haven't?

 

[NatMorton]

No, you're a fake libertarian who supports MAGA and it's fascism in lots of ways.

Again, not a very effective job at trolling. Is this really the best you can do?

And you know what's really funny? You think, in real life, that the people around you don't know that about you. They all do.

The people who matter understand me very well, so it's lucky for me you don't matter.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Again, not a very effective job at trolling. Is this really the best you can do?


The people who matter understand me very well, so it's lucky for me you don't matter.

You can continue on being fake here and real life.

But it's funny that you think people don't know what you're doing. Everyone does.

 

[L88]

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Of course that doesn't mean anti-violent or anti-destructive.

 

[NatMorton]

Which is the truth? ANTIFA are fascists, ANTIFA are Marxists or ANTIFA are anarchists?
And how can you tell? Have you got access to some kind of statement of mission or manifesto that the rest of us haven't?

If I had to choose, I would say ANTIFA in the US are most similar to anarchists. If the US went Marxist next week, they'd be protesting against Marxism the week after. I think they're only purpose is to challenge the established power structure, no matter what that structure is.

They are, IMO, just a more extreme version of the No Kings protesters. They crave a sense of purpose their lives may otherwise lack, and joining a "resistance movement" scratches that itch. That the protest itself is pointless makes no difference. It's all about how it makes them feel about themselves.

 

[NatMorton]

You can continue on being fake here and real life.

But it's funny that you think people don't know what you're doing. Everyone does.

Hmm, you seem obsessed with this point. You really do put a great deal of stock into what others might think of me, which tells me you put a great deal of stock into what others think of you.

That's interesting information, thanks for the tell.

 

[DCCougar]

Antifa ≠ "anti-fascism." In fact, through its frequent use of violence, Antifa has more in common with fascists than not.

Nonsensically false.

 

[NatMorton]

Nonsensically false.

Why?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

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I'll try to be brief.

There's ANTI-FASCISTS, which consist of anyone and everyone who opposes a fascist dictatorship model of governance, which also includes millions of
men who swore an oath, put on a uniform and fought, bled and even died fighting in WW2 and then there is the "brand name" group of cosplay kiddies who call
themselves Antifa™ and who are mostly Black Bloc anarchists who have never done anything except contribute to street conflicts because they think it is cool.

The news media (yes, sorry ALL of them!) keep saying "Ant-TI-fa" as if it is pronounced "Aunt Tifa" like it's your old maid auntie.


This is not something new, news media likes things that generate attention and puts eyeballs on screen and asses in seats.
Factual reporting on political issues is boring so they highlight the drama instead.

THERE IS NO DRAMA IN BEING ANTIFASCIST, it simply means that you oppose fascist dictatorship because you believe in our democratic constitutional republic.
And I couldn't care less about a bunch of pissed off kids in black who think it's cool to get into street fights.
I'm interested in preventing fascism from doing to our country what Viktor Orban has done to Hungary.

 

[roughdraft274]

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You can't blame them. Their brains have been fried by a decade plus of Fox News fear.

I mean, these people are shitting their pants over frog costumes. Sucks to be them.

 

[Ikari]

Antifa ≠ "anti-fascism." In fact, through its frequent use of violence, Antifa has more in common with fascists than not.

Antifa is a thing that has existed for decades. The original variant of it, which sprung up in Germany to oppose the Nazis, was militant. Though when you're fighting against entrenched fascists, you might not be left with much option on that one. The thing I find funny is that the original incarnation of antifa in Germany was run by the communists and in practice both fascism and communism collapse to similar forms of authoritative totalitarianism.

The use of violence throughout history of anti-fascist groups doesn't mean that they are not themselves fighting against fascism. Now, whatever specific system that any specific antifa group is pushing should be looked at because while they may be standing against fascism, they may not be promoting a system that is better. But antifa has never been some 60's style hippie jam band festival pushing "love not war", and generally speaking that tactic doesn't usually get one that far if you are fighting an entrenched, authoritative system.

Antifa does in fact mean anti-fascism. It's long meant that for many many decades. It's been taken up in different countries and different fights throughout the ages. It's often been militant, but it doesn't mean it isn't anti-fascist. In general, antifa isn't some cohesive group, it's more an ideal and various ideals and systems can be backed by those taking up the flags. But it is fundamentally anti-fascism.

 

[reflechissez]

Antifa is a thing that has existed for decades. The original variant of it, which sprung up in Germany to oppose the Nazis, was militant. Though when you're fighting against entrenched fascists, you might not be left with much option on that one. The thing I find funny is that the original incarnation of antifa in Germany was run by the communists and in practice both fascism and communism collapse to similar forms of authoritative totalitarianism.

The use of violence throughout history of anti-fascist groups doesn't mean that they are not themselves fighting against fascism. Now, whatever specific system that any specific antifa group is pushing should be looked at because while they may be standing against fascism, they may not be promoting a system that is better. But antifa has never been some 60's style hippie jam band festival pushing "love not war", and generally speaking that tactic doesn't usually get one that far if you are fighting an entrenched, authoritative system.

Antifa does in fact mean anti-fascism. It's long meant that for many many decades. It's been taken up in different countries and different fights throughout the ages. It's often been militant, but it doesn't mean it isn't anti-fascist. In general, antifa isn't some cohesive group, it's more an ideal and various ideals and systems can be backed by those taking up the flags. But it is fundamentally anti-fascism.

Why do you bother?

 

[NatMorton]

Antifa is a thing that has existed for decades. The original variant of it, which sprung up in Germany to oppose the Nazis, was militant. Though when you're fighting against entrenched fascists, you might not be left with much option on that one. The thing I find funny is that the original incarnation of antifa in Germany was run by the communists and in practice both fascism and communism collapse to similar forms of authoritative totalitarianism.

The use of violence throughout history of anti-fascist groups doesn't mean that they are not themselves fighting against fascism. Now, whatever specific system that any specific antifa group is pushing should be looked at because while they may be standing against fascism, they may not be promoting a system that is better. But antifa has never been some 60's style hippie jam band festival pushing "love not war", and generally speaking that tactic doesn't usually get one that far if you are fighting an entrenched, authoritative system.

Antifa does in fact mean anti-fascism. It's long meant that for many many decades. It's been taken up in different countries and different fights throughout the ages. It's often been militant, but it doesn't mean it isn't anti-fascist. In general, antifa isn't some cohesive group, it's more an ideal and various ideals and systems can be backed by those taking up the flags. But it is fundamentally anti-fascism.

I can't speak to the history of the movement or today's Antifa crowd outside of the United States. Having observed them here, and if they were honest about what they stand for, they would rename themselves AntiEstablia.

 

[element94]

The right is struggling with how to 'spin' its support for fascism and Nazism. It still wants to deny it is those things, while embracing them so closely, because it hasn't yet determined a way to 'spin' them. The same thing happened with its support for KKK-like racism and bigotry, as they supported the agenda while denying the labels, until they figured out the word "woke" lets them get away with it.

Antifa seems to be flirting with being a similar word to woke, letting the right lie they aren't for fascism, they're anti-anti-fascism. By shortening "Anti-fascism" to "Antifa", why, that's an entirely different thing than anti-fascism, that's a 'far-left terrorist group threatening the country'. That somehow works for them. Eventually, like Elon Musk's Nazi salute 'snuck out', it seems likely the mask will drop.

While 'support for Nazis' is still not close, they can start to re-write history to pave the way.

They don't actually need to 'support the Nazis' to support the essential traits of the Nazis, just as they can support the traits of the KKK without saying they support the KKK by changing the word to "woke". You might see people noting, no one ever talks about the good things Nazis did, for example. It's already begun a bit.

PBS reports Mark Kelly quoting trump, "“He commented more than once that, ‘You know, Hitler did some good things, too,’” Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying “nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good,” but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again."

Have you ever heard trump criticize Hitler? When's the last time you heard a trump supporter criticize the substance of Fascism? Ever?

At it's basic level, so the foundation, it is lazy brain rot, a hallmark of the anti-intellectual, and it's spreading like wildfire.

Brain rot: The rise of anti-intellectualism on social media

TikTok and other social media platforms have begun using the term ‘brain rot’ to describe unintelligent behaviors, abnormal actions or immature vocabulary usage. The rise of ‘brain rot’ highlights youths’ depreciation of education and quality thought. The Oxford definition of this term is “the...

spartanshield.org

 

[Manc Skipper]

Why?

"Nonsense" - written words that make no sense.

 

[NatMorton]

"Nonsense" - written words that make no sense.

You mean like that post?

 

[Manc Skipper]

You mean like that post?

No. Like the gobbledegook you contribute.

 

[TobyOne]

Anfita is hand in hand with liberals the most fascist organization in the US. Even Communist part of America is impressed.

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[Manc Skipper]

Anfita is hand in hand with liberals the most fascist organization in the US. Even Communist part of America is impressed.

Tell me you know nothing about any of the above without telling me.
If you're not Anti fascist, then you self identify as the other.

 

[TobyOne]

Lol, is this like "if you say you're not racist, you're racist" Your old schtick and ideology has been exposed.

Tell me you know nothing about any of the above without telling me.
If you're not Anti fascist, then you self identify as the other.

 

[Deuce]

Antifa ≠ "anti-fascism." In fact, through its frequent use of violence, Antifa has more in common with fascists than not.

Buddy I think you need to look up "fascism" in a dictionary

 

[Deuce]

If I had to choose, I would say ANTIFA in the US are most similar to anarchists.

...which makes them extremely not fascists. God, you people just make shit up as you go.

 

[Deuce]

Lol, is this like "if you say you're not racist, you're racist" Your old schtick and ideology has been exposed.

Um it's actually kinda the opposite of that?

 

[NatMorton]

Buddy I think you need to look up "fascism" in a dictionary

And I think you need to be less naive.