Guns are killing us not protecting us

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Americans are 10 times more likely to be killed by guns than people in other developed countries, a new study finds.

Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the United States' gun-related murder rate is 25 times higher. And, even though the United States' suicide rate is similar to other countries, the nation's gun-related suicide rate is eight times higher than other high-income countries, researchers said.

The study was published online Feb. 1 in The American Journal of Medicine.

"Overall, our results show that the U.S., which has the most firearms per capita in the world, suffers disproportionately from firearms compared with other high-income countries," said study author Erin Grinshteyn, an assistant professor at the School of Community Health Science at the University of Nevada-Reno. "These results are consistent with the hypothesis that our firearms are killing us rather than protecting us," she said in a journal news release.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-u-s-gun-deaths-compare-to-other-countries/

Sadly your countrymen don't want to hear that ... and statistically its more like 40 times

You are some 200 times more likely to be a victim of gun crime in the US than you are of terrorism in Europe

 

[vegas giants]

I would not turn over my guns and neither would most people but the point is that with registration that way they would know where to go to try to get the guns and that's why registration is a bad idea.

Then you would die. So be it

 

[vegas giants]

Yeah, that's why a dude shot up a cafe in Toronto, last weekend, because gun control works so great.

You made my point. Look
how rare that is in Canada. LOL

 

[vegas giants]

Until we have proven we can enforce the gun control laws we currently have in place, why should I be willing to take a chance on more? It is simply illogical. If your goal is simply to impose on law abiding citizens then I understand and I just simply disagree with your goal. For instance "gun free zone" laws do nothing to make society safer and in fact make it more dangerous unless there is enforcement behind it (metal detectors, armed guards, etc) as the only people it would be disarming are those who don't plan to go shoot someone.

We do enforce the laws currently in place and we need better laws too

 

[TurtleDude]

Sadly your countrymen don't want to hear that ... and statistically its more like 40 times

You are some 200 times more likely to be a victim of gun crime in the US than you are of terrorism in Europe

not if you don't do drugs, associate with drug dealers or live with drug dealers

 

[Rucker61]

We do enforce the laws currently in place and we need better laws too

How does 10/34,459 calculate into "we do enforce the laws currently in place"?

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/bjs/grants/239272.pdf

 

[vegas giants]

How does 10/34,459 calculate into "we do enforce the laws currently in place"?

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/bjs/grants/239272.pdf

What country enforces law better than us?

 

[Nap]

What country enforces law better than us?

Even if every other country is worse than the US, that doesn't mean that the US effectively enforces it's own laws.

Marijuana is illegal at the federal level, and yet states across the country allow medical or even recreational use of marijuana. Is the federal government enforcing the law?

 

[vegas giants]

Even if every other country is worse than the US, that doesn't mean that the US effectively enforces it's own laws.

Marijuana is illegal at the federal level, and yet states across the country allow medical or even recreational use of marijuana. Is the federal government enforcing the law?

Yeah I agree. We have crappy laws. We need better ones

 

[Rucker61]

Then you would die. So be it

Someone might die.

 

[vegas giants]

Someone might die.

That someone would be you. That is an absolute guarantee

 

[apdst]

You made my point. Look
how rare that is in Canada. LOL

You missed the point. If gun control worked, the dude wouldn't have been able to shoot up the cafe.

 

[vegas giants]

You missed the point. If gun control worked, the dude wouldn't have been able to shoot up the cafe.

Uh .....we have auto deaths. Does that mean traffic control doesn't work?

Lol

 

[apdst]

Uh .....we have auto deaths. Does that mean traffic control doesn't work?

Lol

It means people will do stupid ****. That's why control doesn't work; because people will always do stupid ****.

 

[vegas giants]

It means people will do stupid ****. That's why control doesn't work; because people will always do stupid ****.

So we should stop all traffic control? Lol

 

[apdst]

So we should stop all traffic control? Lol

Do traffic laws have anything to do with owning a vehicle?

 

[vegas giants]

Do traffic laws have anything to do with owning a vehicle?

You better believe they do. Lol

 

[DebateChallenge]

Then you would die. So be it

You're missing the point. Registration is bad because it would enable the government to go around and seize all the guns should it come to that.

 

[vegas giants]

You're missing the point. Registration is bad because it would enable the government to go around and seize all the guns should it come to that.

You are already registered with the government.....and you are ok with it

 

[DebateChallenge]

You are already registered with the government.....and you are ok with it

Not particularly.

 

[vegas giants]

Not particularly.

Yes you....particularly

 

[DebateChallenge]

Yes you....particularly

I am not particularly OK with being registered with the government.

 

[vegas giants]

I am not particularly OK with being registered with the government.

But you sure do it....a lot

 

[DebateChallenge]

But you sure do it....a lot

Doesn't mean I agree with it.

 

[vegas giants]

Doesn't mean I agree with it.

But you do it....and you are never on here complaining about it