Gun Regulations and Media Coverage

WanderingListener · Dec 10, 2021

I read an article a while back (What Bullets Do to Bodies on Highline, for those so inclined) that basically stated one of the major reasons we don’t have stricter gun regulations is that the impact on victims and the horror of the violence itself is not well understood due to its censorship by the media. Do you believe that this is true, and if so, do you think the full, uncensored impact of gun violence should be shown in mainstream online media?

ttwtt78640 · Dec 10, 2021

WanderingListener said:
I read an article a while back (What Bullets Do to Bodies on Highline, for those so inclined) that basically stated one of the major reasons we don’t have stricter gun regulations is that the impact on victims and the horror of the violence itself is not well understood due to its censorship by the media. Do you believe that this is true, and if so, do you think the full, uncensored impact of gun violence should be shown in mainstream online media?

The idea that guns commit ‘gun crime’ is as moronic as the idea that SUVs commit ’SUV crime’. Criminals commit crime and don’t care one bit about any laws or regulations ‘prohibiting’ their criminal activity.

Artymoon · Dec 10, 2021

Well, the impact of criminal violence is shown on MSM everyday. And I believe we already have strict gun regulations. My question to anyone is if someone broke into your home with the intent to harm you or your family, would you prefer to have a gun in your hand and are you worried what size hole it will create?

Indydave · Dec 10, 2021

WanderingListener said:
I read an article a while back (What Bullets Do to Bodies on Highline, for those so inclined) that basically stated one of the major reasons we don’t have stricter gun regulations is that the impact on victims and the horror of the violence itself is not well understood due to its censorship by the media. Do you believe that this is true, and if so, do you think the full, uncensored impact of gun violence should be shown in mainstream online media?

yes........

TurtleDude · Dec 10, 2021

Indydave said:
yes........

I suspect the media won't cover inner city gang shootings but will over-hype incidents that they think is useful for helping push gun bans

soylentgreen · Dec 11, 2021

WanderingListener said:
I read an article a while back (What Bullets Do to Bodies on Highline, for those so inclined) that basically stated one of the major reasons we don’t have stricter gun regulations is that the impact on victims and the horror of the violence itself is not well understood due to its censorship by the media. Do you believe that this is true, and if so, do you think the full, uncensored impact of gun violence should be shown in mainstream online media?

Sounds like complete crap. The internet provides if you know how to look. And the part of the media that deals with fantasy does not hold back on the graphics of violence.

And if your courts allow for victim impact statements then you really do not have an argument that the media censorship effects our understanding of the trauma victims face.

The AntiDonald · Dec 11, 2021

The lack of stronger gun control laws and enforcement in the U.S. boils down to one thing. MONEY.

If the gun lobbies and the NRA quit pumping money into the campaigns of republican lawmakers, things would change overnight.

danielpalos · Dec 11, 2021

WanderingListener said:
I read an article a while back (What Bullets Do to Bodies on Highline, for those so inclined) that basically stated one of the major reasons we don’t have stricter gun regulations is that the impact on victims and the horror of the violence itself is not well understood due to its censorship by the media. Do you believe that this is true, and if so, do you think the full, uncensored impact of gun violence should be shown in mainstream online media?

I think the problem is gun lovers simply refuse to love their republic as much as they love their guns.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

TurtleDude · Dec 11, 2021

The AntiDonald said:
The lack of stronger gun control laws and enforcement in the U.S. boils down to one thing. MONEY.

If the gun lobbies and the NRA quit pumping money into the campaigns of republican lawmakers, things would change overnight.

vs the malignant collectivist movement and the majority of the MSM that wants criminals and authoritarians to have safe working environments?

PeacefulPartier · Dec 12, 2021

The AntiDonald said:
The lack of stronger gun control laws and enforcement in the U.S. boils down to one thing. MONEY.

If the gun lobbies and the NRA quit pumping money into the campaigns of republican lawmakers, things would change overnight.

The Constitution has nothing to do with it?

rahl · Dec 12, 2021

The AntiDonald said:
The lack of stronger gun control laws and enforcement in the U.S. boils down to one thing. MONEY.

If the gun lobbies and the NRA quit pumping money into the campaigns of republican lawmakers, things would change overnight.

Democrats control both houses of Congress and the presidency. They have done so numerous times in the past 40 years. Why haven’t they passed the laws you want implemented?

This isn’t a left right thing. This is a constitutional thing. The restrictions you want are a direct violation of the constitution.

Wild Bill Kelsoe · Dec 12, 2021

WanderingListener said:
I read an article a while back (What Bullets Do to Bodies on Highline, for those so inclined) that basically stated one of the major reasons we don’t have stricter gun regulations is that the impact on victims and the horror of the violence itself is not well understood due to its censorship by the media. Do you believe that this is true, and if so, do you think the full, uncensored impact of gun violence should be shown in mainstream online media?

I believe the opposite is true. The media continually lies about the affect of firearms by claiming AR-15s are "assault rifles" and they fire "tumbling bullets" and they are "high powered" and have "a high rate of fire". And don't forget that goofball, who is a former senior officer in the military, who thinks there's a such thing as "full semi-automatic" which involved pulling the trigger faster.

Wild Bill Kelsoe · Dec 12, 2021

The AntiDonald said:
The lack of stronger gun control laws and enforcement in the U.S. boils down to one thing. MONEY.

If the gun lobbies and the NRA quit pumping money into the campaigns of republican lawmakers, things would change overnight.

The anti-gun lobby as just as much freedom to pump money into political campaigns as the gun rights organizations do. Do you think the reason the anti-gunners can't compete is because their platform is less popular?

Wild Bill Kelsoe · Dec 12, 2021

danielpalos said:
I think the problem is gun lovers simply refuse to love their republic as much as they love their guns.

The Republic exists and survived because of our gun ownership, not in spite of it.

Antiwar · Dec 12, 2021

ttwtt78640 said:
The idea that guns commit ‘gun crime’ is as moronic as the idea that SUVs commit ’SUV crime’. Criminals commit crime and don’t care one bit about any laws or regulations ‘prohibiting’ their criminal activity.

What? Did he say that guns commit crime just because he used the term 'gun violence'? Is that where that absurd notion comes from? Seriously.

ttwtt78640 · Dec 12, 2021

Antiwar said:
What? Did he say that guns commit crime just because he used the term 'gun violence'? Is that where that absurd notion comes from? Seriously.

It comes from the “access to” argument, as if having “access to” something criminally abused was the “root cause” of that criminaI act. What do you suppose not having “stricter gun regulations” was advocating?

Antiwar · Dec 12, 2021

ttwtt78640 said:
It comes from the “access to” argument, as if having “access to” something criminally abused was the “root cause” of that criminaI act. What do you suppose not having “stricter gun regulations” was advocating?

The Opie didn't say anything about access to guns, either. Why would you immediately respond with 'guns aren't alive'?

How does the access to guns argument supposedly mean that some people think that guns are alive? The 'some people think that guns are alive' argument is absurd. Let's figure out why so many people make that argument.

Jason Warfield · Dec 12, 2021

The right will only agree to showing such images if it will advance their cause. Like anti-abortion protesters who parade with pictures of aborted fetuses.

TurtleDude · Dec 12, 2021

Wild Bill Kelsoe said:
The anti-gun lobby as just as much freedom to pump money into political campaigns as the gun rights organizations do. Do you think the reason the anti-gunners can't compete is because their platform is less popular?

The MSM has far more money than the NRA. Mainstream prime time TV shows often have lots of anti gun propaganda built into their stories. MSM talking heads lie about guns constantly.

The Work Outing · Dec 13, 2021

TurtleDude said:
I suspect the media won't cover inner city gang shootings but will over-hype incidents that they think is useful for helping push gun bans

And I suspect that you will STRONGLY object when anyone, posts ANYTHING that says ANYTHING, REMOTELY negative about gun ownership in the least.
Whether the argument/objection you post is logical or otherwise.

Which makes your point of view on this subject rather useless as a source of anything legitimate and remotely, open-minded.

The AntiDonald · Dec 14, 2021

rahl said:
Democrats control both houses of Congress and the presidency. They have done so numerous times in the past 40 years. Why haven’t they passed the laws you want implemented?

This isn’t a left right thing. This is a constitutional thing. The restrictions you want are a direct violation of the constitution.

No. It's a filibuster thing in the senate. When the dems know for sure they have 60 votes in the senate, the legislation will pass. Until then, it takes one senator to object to debate, and the whole thing is shut down.

rahl · Dec 15, 2021

The AntiDonald said:
No. It's a filibuster thing in the senate.

no, it's really a constitutional thing.

The AntiDonald said:
When the dems know for sure they have 60 votes in the senate, the legislation will pass.

it will not even be brought to the floor.

The AntiDonald said:
Until then, it takes one senator to object to debate, and the whole thing is shut down.

actually all it takes is the constitution.

danielpalos · Dec 15, 2021

We have a Second Amendment, why do we have any security problems in our free States?

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

jaeger19 · Jan 12, 2022

WanderingListener said:
I read an article a while back (What Bullets Do to Bodies on Highline, for those so inclined) that basically stated one of the major reasons we don’t have stricter gun regulations is that the impact on victims and the horror of the violence itself is not well understood due to its censorship by the media. Do you believe that this is true, and if so, do you think the full, uncensored impact of gun violence should be shown in mainstream online media?

Actually"gun violence".. is overblown in the mainstream mainline media.

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PeacefulWarrior · Jan 12, 2022

ttwtt78640 said:
The idea that guns commit ‘gun crime’ i

He didnt say that guns commit crime, and literally NO ONE thinks that.
DERP

#FAIL

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