Schutzengel
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When was the last mass shooting at a gun show? EVERY mass shooting you are talking about has happened in an area where weapons are restricted and/ or limited.
When was the last mass shooting at a gun show? EVERY mass shooting you are talking about has happened in an area where weapons are restricted and/ or limited.
So now we need a shooting at a gun show to questin anything? I'm not for any new laws, but I don't buy that.
tens of thousands of guns bought at gunshows have been used in crimes.
not really....
yes, really.
A federal study found that 10% of guns used in crime by juveniles were sold either at a gun show or a flea market, and in 1999, gun shows were associated with approximately 26,000 firearms used in crime
Gun Show Loophole Frequently Asked Questions - Coalition to Stop Gun Violence
yes, really.
A federal study found that 10% of guns used in crime by juveniles were sold either at a gun show or a flea market, and in 1999, gun shows were associated with approximately 26,000 firearms used in crime
Gun Show Loophole Frequently Asked Questions - Coalition to Stop Gun Violence
btw your source is a proven liar--there is no gun show loophole because the laws are the same at gunshows as they are at any other place in the relevant state
when the brady background law was passed, it was a change in the law. the change was only enacted to apply to FFL dealers-not private citizens. so there is NO LOOPHOLE
its a lie
its a fraud
its a claim dishonest organizations and the scum that lead them make
gunshows in many states allow people to buy rifles, shotguns, and handguns...without ANY background check.
this is a horrible loophole that MUST be closed.
NO ONE should be able to buy a firearm in this country without going through a comprehensive background check, which usually takes as long as 2 minutes.
would you stop the dishonesty? Private CITIZENS HAVE ALWAYS- OVER TWO HUNDRED YEARS BEEN ABLE TO SELL GUNS WITHOUT performing a background check
GUN DEALERS TOO UNTIL 1993 were able to sell guns without BACKGROUND CHECKS...
and that, is disgusting.
no one in this country should be able to buy a gun without being checked to make sure they aren't a convicted felon, been institutionalized by the state, have a warrant for their arrest, or has been indicted for a violent crime.
I can't understand how anyone who values a civil society could argue otherwise.
TD- do you think Americans should be able to buy guns without passing a background check?
the correct question is do I believe that our freedoms should be abdicated to make such a thing possible and I say no...
what essential freedoms does one give up, by going through a 2-minute background check in order to buy a gun?
Another straw man from the NRA fanboys.
No body wants you to give up you liberty. Own your guns. Just fill out some paper work when you buy them and when you sell them.
I don't think we should ban guns or anything, but calling it a liberty issue is quite a stretch IMO. The real, core, liberties are all about protecting the free flow and expression of ideas. Free speech is precisely that, but the right of association, due process, freedom of religion, equal protection, etc, are all there to enable the development, free exchange, and protection of ideas. The right to bear arms used to be about that too back in the day. It was a check on government. But today it has lost that element completely. Now it just seems to be about people think guys are cool... So, I don't think we should ban them or something, but I think it's pretty grandiose to still be canonizing the right to bear arms along with the more serious rights.
Another straw man from the NRA fanboys.
No body wants you to give up you liberty. Own your guns. Just fill out some paper work when you buy them and when you sell them.
I am glad people who think like you are not the arbiters of what is an essential liberty
and one of the reasons why people should take the RKBA as an essential right because there are those who just want to write off rights they don't find important
Can you explain why it is an important right? I think the notion that it is a check on government is pretty obviously ridiculous... Self defense... I dunno. I guess... That doesn't seem to rise to the level of things like the freedom of expression or equal protection or whatnot to me. I'd put it more in the category of the third amendment. You can see why it was a big deal when they wrote it, but it seems kind of silly in retrospect IMO.
uh you haven't read a thing i said
how are you going to enforce that when dealing with two private citizens
...I think its important that politicians realize that if they really go far, honest, law abiding citizens have the power to kill them or those who carry out illegal and fascist orders from such people...
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