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The whining on the Right is almost as palatable as that on the Left with regards to this issue.
You're right: the theater banning guns didn't prevent the shooting. And patrons carrying guns would almost assuredly have not saved one more life (in fact, given the killer's use of smoke and gas in his attack, it's very possible that more people would have been accidentally killed by do-gooder would-be heroes before the massacre was through).
This is not a good example to base any argument around.
good point-the government should not execute the guy. rather the families of the dead children should be given the following
2 hours access to this guy
several crowbars, blowtorches and car batteries with jumper cables
full gubernatorial pardons for all and anything they do during that 2 hour period
Neither will sending out death squads to kill him.
I do not hate the government.You hate the government?
So do I. And, trust me, you don't want to give the State the authority to kill on command.
good point-the government should not execute the guy. rather the families of the dead children should be given the following
2 hours access to this guy
several crowbars, blowtorches and car batteries with jumper cables
full gubernatorial pardons for all and anything they do during that 2 hour period
That is not logic. That is nonsense. This maggot shoots 71 people. Are you saying that if someone gets a bead on him, and pops as many rounds as possible, that its now 75 people shot ?
I suggest 25 total. Maybe less. Especially if the CC was ex-military of other security.
The whining on the Right is almost as palatable as that on the Left with regards to this issue.
You're right: the theater banning guns didn't prevent the shooting. And patrons carrying guns would almost assuredly have not saved one more life (in fact, given the killer's use of smoke and gas in his attack, it's very possible that more people would have been accidentally killed by do-gooder would-be heroes before the massacre was through).
This is not a good example to base any argument around.
And unfortunately, this one went with the smoke grenade. Obscures his vision a bit too, but still increases his advantage. He had the ballistic helmet, neck protector, and upper-body armor. Seemed he was ready for suicide by cop, after a shoot-out. Yet he surrendered.
That is not logic. That is nonsense. This maggot shoots 71 people. Are you saying that if someone gets a bead on him, and pops as many rounds as possible, that its now 75 people shot ?
I suggest 25 total. Maybe less. Especially if the CC was ex-military of other security.
I disagree with you. If this were Texas, and if it were not legally a gun-free zone, someone(s) would have taken him out long before he got off 71 deliberate and individual shots.
which means he was prepared for an armed-audience.
No, he was prepared for one, or two armed persons in the audience.
I'm suggesting that firing on a man armed to the hilt with anti-handgun body armor will not stop him, and that firing on him in (1) a darkened theater that (2) has been filled with smoke and (3) tear gas will certainly jeporadize the lives of many more patrons than this man could ever have taken on his own.
There were military men present in the theater. They weren't able to do a thing.
Actually I love bikes. Harley's... and especially vintage Indians. Bikes are as safe as the rider, just as cars are/not. BTW, this was in a city and the speed limit was 30. He was doing approx double that. Whether it was intentional or due to poor shifting, he was doing a wheelie. It was a street bike, and when he came down he went into a high speed wobble that ejected him off the bike. I tend to think it was unintentional, but I heard him before I saw him, and when I did see him he was already on the back tire, not very high up. I think he lifted not meaning to, then backed off the throttle... He came down and went into a wicked wobble and off the bike he went. All of that is such a haze to me. watching him skim across the pavement and smack into my car, I am stopped waiting for him to get up for a couple seconds until I realized he is probably hurt bad and get out to check on him. That's when it all comes clear to see my tire sitting on his chest and throat.My dad doesn't hot-rod, but this is exactly why I ask him not to ride his Harley on the highway leading to our house. The speed limit is set at 70, but most people go 80 or more. If something happened that caused him to lose control there's no way in hell he'd survive it short of a miracle. I totally understand the thrill of biking, but it isn't worth death, IMO.
This isn't about a pedophile. This is about a guy who went into a theater and shot up a bunch of people.
Who gives a **** what his motives are.Knowing his motives will not prevent any future shootings.Nor will knowing his motives bring any of his victims back to life. Knowing his motives won't even make his victims feel better. The police ****ed up by not putting as bullet in his head and their **** up will cost tax payers millions of dollars and cause more grief for the victims and their families.
Do you honestly believe that life is like a John Woo movie, where anyone with fingers enough to fire a Glock carries one in the waistbands of their pants?
Well there has been death threats against the director, and threats because of the whole "Bane/Bain" issue..
It's still a stigma to carry a gun, I know. Yes, it's concealed. No one sees it, but friends and family still have something to say about carrying.
Furthermore, the theater did not allow concealed weapons on their premises. That explains why no one shot back. CCW holders are law abiding citizens and honor posted signs ...because it's the law. They can lose their permit and go to jail if they do otherwise.
Theater Shooting Proves Signs Do Not Prevent Massacre
Hey. You are not ex military apparently.
As for 'being filled with smoke", it goes both ways. If the perp can see to shoot, then trust that you can see to shoot back.
As for 'gas", while the mask helps him to breath in a plain smokey room, there is no confirmation that it was "gas". I have watched the videos, and no one is coming out of the theater as if gassed. All comments werre "hard ot breath". No one says eyes stinging. Were it gas, you'd have seen it just with teh folks at teh front of the theater. I have been gassed a dozen times. Had my nose run off my chin.
Even so, someone near him, with a handgun, who escaped the initial shots, and likely beside him, or now behind him, can certainly do damage. There were many places to aim that would have disabled him and taken him down.
YOu posts pretend to speak with knowledge on this subject. But I see no knowledge. I see uninformed speculation, to the point of ignorance.
Hey. You are not ex military apparently.
As for 'being filled with smoke", it goes both ways. If the perp can see to shoot, then trust that you can see to shoot back.
As for 'gas", while the mask helps him to breath in a plain smokey room, there is no confirmation that it was "gas". I have watched the videos, and no one is coming out of the theater as if gassed. All comments werre "hard ot breath". No one says eyes stinging. Were it gas, you'd have seen it just with teh folks at teh front of the theater. I have been gassed a dozen times. Had my nose run off my chin.
Even so, someone near him, with a handgun, who escaped the initial shots, and likely beside him, or now behind him, can certainly do damage. There were many places to aim that would have disabled him and taken him down.
Well there has been death threats against the director, and threats because of the whole "Bane/Bain" issue..
So the pope doesn't need clear line of sight, he doesn't care who he hits, he's just looking to hit someone. Those shooting at him are wanting to hit someone specific, and sauce vision and site is more important
Hey. You are not ex military apparently.
I had no idea the Pope was so bloodthirsty.
You're assuming that someone would be carrying a sufficiently powerful gun loaded with armor-piercing ammo capable of breaching this guy's full-body suit? What are the chances of that?
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