Group of men storm Drag Queen Story Hour in California in possible hate crime

[Bear5131]

Do you consider verbal abuse violent behavior?

Move to Europe if you hate the 1st ammendment

 

[beefheart]

Move to Europe if you hate the 1st ammendment

Amendment

You don't know much about Europe do you? Nine out of the top ten countries for freedom of the press are in Europe.

Infographic: Where the Press Is the Most and the Least Free

This chart shows the countries ranking highest and lowest on the Press Freedom Index in 2022.

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Index

RSF's World Press Freedom Index aims to compare the level of press freedom enjoyed by journalists and media in 180 countries and territories.

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[beefheart]

 

[Nuber]

In the Chicago area, they had a library board when I lived there.

Maybe YOUR libraries are run by unelected officials.

I have lived in a number of areas, different states. Never once voted on a librarian or any library administrators - because none were on the ballot. You are presenting the first time I have heard of it.

Thanks for sharing your anecdote - and you did bust my blanket assumption. But not by a large margin, I suspect.

 

[Loulit01]

They are being exposed to little red riding hood.

Little Red Riding Hood, Cinderella, Snow White, tons of stories where the helpless young woman victim waits around for a man to rescue her. How neutral are those stories? There's no such thing as neutral. The libraries are trying to show the views of the entire community. You want to stop it? Have no kids show up.

 

[Loulit01]

Amendment

You don't know much about Europe do you? Nine out of the top ten countries for freedom of the press are in Europe.

Infographic: Where the Press Is the Most and the Least Free

This chart shows the countries ranking highest and lowest on the Press Freedom Index in 2022.

www.statista.com

Index

RSF's World Press Freedom Index aims to compare the level of press freedom enjoyed by journalists and media in 180 countries and territories.

rsf.org

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Thank you!

Patriotism is not blind loyalty or claiming your country is best at everything. Patriotism is doing your best to be a good citizen in all areas regardless of the popularity of your viewpoint. Including an informed vote.

For example: Name your congressman. If you can't, what are you doing here?

 

[Nomad4Ever]

These were all publicly advertised events so LibsofTikToc wasn't sharing any info that wasnt already known. That account simply shares videos from TicTo. They speak for themselves.

Signal boosting small local events to millions of people is what drew the attention of the right wing militia groups like the Proud Boys. You don't think that's an issue?

 

[Loulit01]

Oh, I found lots of fun stuff...
Dress a baby in pink today and it will be almost universally identified as a girl. Yet this is actually the opposite of the system that prevailed until quite recently. Until well into the 20th century, toddlers who were not dressed in a non-gender-specific white, were put in pink for boys and blue for girls. The Sunday Sentinel noted in March 1914: “Use pink for the boy and blue for the girl, if you are a follower of convention.”

Four years later, in June 1918, the US magazine Ladies’ Home Journal registered that there was some confusion but added: “… the generally accepted rule is pink for the boys, and blue for the girls. The reason is that pink, being a more decided and stronger colour, is more suitable for the boy, while blue, which is more delicate and dainty, is prettier for the girl.”

Even as late as November 1927 the rule seemed to hold, at least among the upper classes, as Time magazine reported that Princess Astrid of Belgium had optimistically decked out the cradle for her unborn child in pink – “the colour for boys” – only to then give birth to a girl. The correspondent thought this odd and decided to run a straw poll among US department stores, but found they could not agree which way round it should be either.
Nor have boys always even been called boys. Until the late 15th century the word ‘girl’ simply means a child of either sex. Boys, where they had to be differentiated, were referred to as ‘knave girls’ and girls in the female sense were called ‘gay girls’. Equally a boy could be a ‘knave child’ and a girl a ‘maiden child’.
The term ‘boy’ was reserved for servants or ‘churls’, the meaning ‘young man’ probably deriving from the latter as a pejorative term but not occurring before 1440.

Most Victorian-era boys wore dresses and the reasons were practical

When Little Boys Wore Dresses

www.amusingplanet.com

Don't freak out, but ALL little boys used to wear dresses and nobody cared!

Up until as recently as the 1940s, it was no big deal for boys to wear dresses and the little dudes happily frocked up!

babyology.com.au

Has Pink Always Been a “Girly” Color? | Britannica

If you see newborn babies at a hospital in the U.

www.britannica.com

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And somehow, many grew up to be straight men!

 

[TobyOne]

Nope. When people post videos or advertise events do they not understand they are doing it in public ? Should people not share this information on social media sites ? Thats what social media is for. If you don't want public exposure then post your silly videos to a text group or private facebook group.

Signal boosting small local events to millions of people is what drew the attention of the right wing militia groups like the Proud Boys. You don't think that's an issue?

 

[TobyOne]

In some ways, this is more disturbing. I don't know what these parents are thinking.

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[beefheart]

In some ways, this is more disturbing. I don't know what these parents are thinking.

A hell of a lot more disturbing. That is just pure exploitation of those children, and I am sure that their parents are...well....pretty creepy.

 

[Higgins86]

Don't really understand this recent aggressiveness in the US to drag shows. Drag shows and Drag comedians have been mainstream for decades now. I can think of a couple of notable drag show comedians etc that I grew up with and I never saw them even as a kid as anything more than harmless fun.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Group of men storm Drag Queen Story Hour in California in possible hate crime

Five men believed to be affiliated with the far-right Proud Boys disrupted the event for children, shouting anti-LGBTQ+ slurs

www.theguardian.com

So the LibsOfTikTok account shared a location of a drag queen story hour, then a group of proud boys showed up, yelled slurs, and terrorized everyone there.


It's only a matter of time until LibsOfTikTok gets someone killed. They have millions of followers and them singling out and boosting small groups like this, with their rhetoric that LGTBQ people are all groomers, WILL lead to people taking action "against the pedophiles to save the kids". People they target for attack get death threats, online harassment, and now groups of brown shirts showing up in person to terrorize apparently.

But of course, that's their goal.

Hey, those violent people were scaring children for "The Right Reasons" so that's OK - right? I mean it's not like they were protesting against the upcoming Supreme Court ruling that will strike down the laws permitting pre-birth child murders - right?

 

[Loulit01]

Drag Queen Story Hour

No one was trying to hide anything. You don't like it? Turn and walk away. Lodge a protest. Start a petition. Grab your friends make some signs and picket the library. I support your right to do all those things. And I don't think I would have taken my kid to the event. But you can't bust in and get arrested. That's counterproductive.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Someone who would expose 5 and 6 year olds to "drag queens" and the like is an abuser.

Most men who cross-dress are heterosexual and married and simply enjoy the practice. There are varying estimates of the prevalence of male cross-dressers in the United States, ranging from 2 percent to 10 percent.

 

[beefheart]

Thank you!

Patriotism is not blind loyalty or claiming your country is best at everything. Patriotism is doing your best to be a good citizen in all areas regardless of the popularity of your viewpoint. Including an informed vote.

For example: Name your congressman. If you can't, what are you doing here?

Unfortunately, I am getting redistricted from a good congressman to a sleazy corrupt idiot congressman...oy

 

[Loulit01]

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The one on the right just looks like JonBenet Ramsey.


Not sure I like what was going on with these kiddie pageants.

 

[Liberal7360]

Disagree. That gives the power of ideological influence to the unelected bureaucrat who runs the library.

Which is why this one was titled "Drag Queen story hour" more than likely - to influence.

Libraries - as public funded entities - should be neutral in presentation of subject, of perception of presentation, and in intent to influence thought. The library patron should be forming their own opinions absent library influence in an ideal environment that I want to publicly fund. If they cannot remain neutral, I don't care to fund them.

Or they used that name to let people know what was going on.

If they had left off the drag queen in the title and some parents took their children there not knowing there would be a drag queen then the parents go nuts because they didn't know about the drag queen. Those parent's would be yelling from the rooftops that their rights as parents were violated or something just as silly. Accusing the library of deceiving them by not letting them know.

The library was doing it's job of full disclosure. That way any parent who didn't want their child to be there, had that choice to not bring them there. Those who didn't have a problem with it, brought their children there. Keep in mind, those children are not old enough to drive and the only way they could have gotten there is if an adult took them there thus approving of what the child was doing.

The drag queen pays taxes. The parents of those children pay taxes. They were giving the public full disclosure of what was going on. The drag queen, children and parents have a right to be there and not have some out of control barbarians breaking in to verbally harass and abuse them causing them to be afraid of violence.

The drag queen, children and parents didn't do anything wrong or illegal.

The barbarians who broke in and terrorized little children are the people who are wrong and criminals.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

I would still have a problem with it, but drag queens are free to host whatever story hours they want. However, "drag queens," in my opinion, should stick with Hamburger Mary's restaurants and certain sections of Key West, rather than foist themselves on little kids. What even is the point? To get more people to waste their time in drag?

Drag queens are not "women" - and they don't generally go by "she" - they aren't trans. A drag queen is generally a man who dresses up in women's clothing, but "women's clothing" is a term used loosely there. They are a caricature of women. Exaggerations. They are insults to women. Women don't look like "drag queens" - women dress and act normally, not the overly affected extremely flamboyant oddball behavior of drag queens.

One of these two

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is a "Drag Queen" and one isn't.

Which one of the two do you think that the women in your life would like to look most like?

 

[highroller]

I have lived in a number of areas, different states. Never once voted on a librarian or any library administrators - because none were on the ballot. You are presenting the first time I have heard of it.

Thanks for sharing your anecdote - and you did bust my blanket assumption. But not by a large margin, I suspect.

I said the "board"

The librarian(s) was appointed from the board.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

The one on the right just looks like JonBenet Ramsey.
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Not sure I like what was going on with these kiddie pageants.

There is a large, and growing, market for photographs of children dressed as adults and/or wearing skimpy costumes and some people are making quite a good living out of supplying that market.

If there was no market, then there would be no profits and that means that there would be no pageants.

So why put all the blame on the people who are operating those pageants as "good old free enterprise capitalist operations"?

 

[highroller]

Move to Europe if you hate the 1st ammendment

What is verbally abusing fellow citizens have to do with the first amendment?

 

[NuffSaid]

Don't really understand this recent aggressiveness in the US to drag shows. Drag shows and Drag comedians have been mainstream for decades now. I can think of a couple of notable drag show comedians etc that I grew up with and I never saw them even as a kid as anything more than harmless fun.

In 1984, Queen had a video for "I Want To Break Free" with all 4 members dressed up in drag. UK thought it was cheeky and humorous. Americans found this to be the worst thing ever. MTV banned the video (ha, how times have changed) and it ruined Queen in the US until Freddie died and Wayne's World made them popular again.

 

[What if...?]

Group of men storm Drag Queen Story Hour in California in possible hate crime

Five men believed to be affiliated with the far-right Proud Boys disrupted the event for children, shouting anti-LGBTQ+ slurs

www.theguardian.com

So the LibsOfTikTok account shared a location of a drag queen story hour, then a group of proud boys showed up, yelled slurs, and terrorized everyone there.


It's only a matter of time until LibsOfTikTok gets someone killed. They have millions of followers and them singling out and boosting small groups like this, with their rhetoric that LGTBQ people are all groomers, WILL lead to people taking action "against the pedophiles to save the kids". People they target for attack get death threats, online harassment, and now groups of brown shirts showing up in person to terrorize apparently.

But of course, that's their goal.

People need to remember how easy it is to get someone to hit you, in front of witnesses.

Get some of them arrested and or sued, maybe even cost them their right to bear arms, and it won’t seem so fun anymore.

 

[Loulit01]

There is a large, and growing, market for photographs of children dressed as adults and/or wearing skimpy costumes and some people are making quite a good living out of supplying that market.

If there was no market, then there would be no profits and that means that there would be no pageants.

So why put all the blame on the people who are operating those pageants as "good old free enterprise capitalist operations"?

Not blaming anyone for anything.

"Not sure I like what was going on with these kiddie pageants." Is not an accustion. And I was thinking more on the pressure put on kids to perform rather than the pedo aspects. But I'm no expert on kiddie pageants so I said "I'm not sure."