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Group Behind Planned Parenthood Sting Video May Have Tricked IRS, Donors

But as Slate reports, the Center for Medical Progress appears to be nothing more than a front organization for the anti-abortion group Live Action. That is not how the IRS understood it when considering the group's application for tax-exempt status, and not how the group originally presented itself to the public in soliciting donations.

According to new research by the Bridge Project, the policy arm of the progressive group American Bridge, the IRS granted the Center for Medical Progress tax-exempt status as a 501(c)3 nonprofit in 2013 under the classification code G92, which applies to biomedicine charities. In the National Taxonomy of Exempt Entities, which is used by the IRS, that classification covers "Diseases, Disorders, Medical Disciplines: Biomedicine, Bioengineering." So-called "right to life" groups, defined as groups that "support the passage of legislation which assigns legal rights to the unborn and seeks to criminalize the termination of unwanted pregnancies," have their own classification code with the IRS.
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good thing we don't need the IRS applying tough scrutiny on these groups applying for t-e status.
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Despicable. Hopefully, some jail time is in the future for these scumbags if this is true.
 
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SlevinKelevra said:
Group Behind Planned Parenthood Sting Video May Have Tricked IRS, Donors

good thing we don't need the IRS applying tough scrutiny on these groups applying for t-e status.
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Despicable. Hopefully, some jail time is in the future for these scumbags if this is true.
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Just another example of how these people think. "The only moral abortion is my abortion. The only moral violence is my violence. The only moral tax fraud is my tax fraud."

This mentality makes it fairly clear why they're incapable of sympathizing with women; they're all about themselves. I don't really believe most of them care about ZEF's either -- most are happy to dispose of them when convenient, or if they deem the woman innocent of the terrible crime of actually enjoying sex.

It all revolves around them and their need to feel in control of everything and everyone.
 
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SmokeAndMirrors said:
Just another example of how these people think. "The only moral abortion is my abortion. The only moral violence is my violence. The only moral tax fraud is my tax fraud."

This mentality makes it fairly clear why they're incapable of sympathizing with women; they're all about themselves. I don't really believe most of them care about ZEF's either -- most are happy to dispose of them when convenient, or if they deem the woman innocent of the terrible crime of actually enjoying sex.

It all revolves around them and their need to feel in control of everything and everyone.
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None of what you wrote is true. Unless you wish to apply your final sentence to leftists.
 
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Fletch said:
None of what you wrote is true. Unless you wish to apply your final sentence to leftists.
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But it is. :shrug: They do all of those things.

How exactly does free choice equal having control over everyone in your backwards way of thinking? :lol:
 
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Thinking people saw through the scam from the start, this is merely confirmation of the duplicitous fanatical nature of the perps.
 
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SmokeAndMirrors said:
But it is. :shrug: They do all of those things.

How exactly does free choice equal having control over everyone in your backwards way of thinking? :lol:
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What choices are you for exactly? School choice? The choice not to participate in statist programs like Obamacare or SS? The choice on how I use my property? You punish behavior you don't like through taxes and regulation and yet, pretend to be pro choice. That's absurd. You want choice in this instance and this instance only. Liberals want federal control of everything. You cannot grow federal power and federal control without denying choice to the individual.
 
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Manc Skipper said:
Thinking people saw through the scam from the start, this is merely confirmation of the duplicitous fanatical nature of the perps.
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Sorry, but the actual fanatics on this issue are the leftists who like to pretend that what is growing in the womb is something other than human life.
 
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You can be as sorry as you like, but broadcasting lies is no way to promote ones case.
 
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Manc Skipper said:
You can be as sorry as you like, but broadcasting lies is no way to promote ones case.
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I wasn't defending the tactic. I was attacking the liberal pretense that abortion doesn't end a human life.
 
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Fletch said:
What choices are you for exactly? School choice? The choice not to participate in statist programs like Obamacare or SS? The choice on how I use my property? You punish behavior you don't like through taxes and regulation and yet, pretend to be pro choice. That's absurd. You want choice in this instance and this instance only. Liberals want federal control of everything. You cannot grow federal power and federal control without denying choice to the individual.
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Firstly, I still don't know what the hell school choice is supposed to mean, except "let's make poor districts poorer." But apart from that, yeah, dude. Why the hell do you think I left the country?

I mean, you don't have the right to screw over other people with your backwards demands. But you're certainly free to leave and find someplace that suits you better, if the majority of Americans have decided they like having at least a basic standard of living and you find that disagreeable for whatever reason.

But at any rate, you're avoiding the question I asked: how the hell does reproductive choice equal "the government controls everything"? Aren't you the one who wants the government to control every woman's uterus? I can see you trying to Gish gallop me, because that was a ****ing stupid thing to say and you're quite aware of that. Too bad for you. Answer the question.
 
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Fletch said:
I wasn't defending the tactic. I was attacking the liberal pretense that abortion doesn't end a human life.
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You were defending it by deflecting. We are debating your lying colleagues who manufactured a fake video and presented it as a shocking revelation, not your extreme political beliefs.

A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.

Winston Churchill


Read more at A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. - Winston Churchill at BrainyQuote
 
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SmokeAndMirrors said:
:roll:

Firstly, I still don't know what the hell school choice is supposed to mean, except "let's make poor districts poorer." But apart from that, yeah, dude. Why the hell do you think I left the country?

I mean, you don't have the right to screw over other people with your backwards demands. But you're certainly free to leave and find someplace that suits you better, if the majority of Americans have decided they like having at least a basic standard of living and you find that disagreeable for whatever reason.

But at any rate, you're avoiding the question I asked: how the hell does reproductive choice equal "the government controls everything"? Aren't you the one who wants the government to control every woman's uterus? I can see you trying to Gish gallop me, because that was a ****ing stupid thing to say and you're quite aware of that. Too bad for you. Answer the question.
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I don't know what a Gish gallop is and it is always entertaining when a statist liberal demands someone seeking liberty leave the only country ever founded upon that word. Keep up the good work. And just so you know, I am not against abortion. I am against the liberal pretense that abortion doesn't end a human life. Any other questions?
 
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Manc Skipper said:
You were defending it by deflecting. We are debating your lying colleagues who manufactured a fake video and presented it as a shocking revelation, not your extreme political beliefs.

A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.

Winston Churchill


Read more at A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. - Winston Churchill at BrainyQuote
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So you are a fanatic on this issue then?? Is that your point? Because I am not seeing any one other than that. And how is saying that what is growing in the womb is a living human an "extreme political view?" Its a scientific fact. Or are you and anti-science fanatic as well?
 
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Fletch said:
I don't know what a Gish gallop is and it is always entertaining when a statist liberal demands someone seeking liberty leave the only country ever founded upon that word. Keep up the good work. And just so you know, I am not against abortion. I am against the liberal pretense that abortion doesn't end a human life. Any other questions?
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What you're doing: throwing out irrelevant strawman in order to try to make me waste a bunch of time shooting down nonsense.

Who cares? No pretense here -- it's completely irrelevant what abortion ends. I mean, I happen to think it's idiotic to refer to an embryo as a person, since I have a baseline education in biology. But that isn't actually important -- the woman can defend her body and life regardless, just like she can in any other situation where something is harming here -- including a human.

And at any rate, you're lying; it doesn't count as "support" if you want to emotionally destroy everyone who does the thing you don't like.
 
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SmokeAndMirrors said:
What you're doing: throwing out irrelevant strawman in order to try to make me waste a bunch of time shooting down nonsense.

Who cares? No pretense here -- it's completely irrelevant what abortion ends. I mean, I happen to think it's idiotic to refer to an embryo as a person, since I have a baseline education in biology. But that isn't actually important -- the woman can defend her body and life regardless, just like she can in any other situation where something is harming here -- including a human.

And at any rate, you're lying; it doesn't count as "support" if you want to emotionally destroy everyone who does the thing you don't like.
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Its not lying. You just don't like anyone pointing out to you that what you 'support' is the ending of human life and should be approached as such. You pretend it is something else so you can you can defend it without facing the moral issues that such support imposes.
 
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Fletch said:
Its not lying. You just don't like anyone pointing out to you that what you 'support' is the ending of human life and should be approached as such. You pretend it is something else so you can you can defend it without facing the moral issues that such support imposes.
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You're not listening, because the fantasy version of my argument that you've created in your head is easier to defeat than the reality.

If I were to entertain your biological ignorance, I don't care if it does ends a human life, just like I don't care when people end human lives in self-defense. The woman is the one being harmed. She is simply more important even if the fetus is Jesus himself. I frankly don't give a **** what a fetus is, which is why I don't care even when women have late abortions and things get a bit more fuzzy in terms of what a fetus is biologically. Still don't care, and certainly not about to say anything to a woman who's almost certainly aborting when she didn't even want to due to some kind of problem. She's got enough to deal with, without a bunch of hypocritical control freaks screaming at her. So I don't give a **** whether that thing she's aborting is a blob or a person or a chair or a ham sandwich. Frankly not anyone's business but hers as far as I'm concerned.

Got it?

So yes, it's lying. You claim to not be against abortion, yet you want to psychologically abuse women who have one. You're lying.
 
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SmokeAndMirrors said:
You're not listening, because the fantasy version of my argument that you've created in your head is easier to defeat than the reality.

If I were to entertain your biological ignorance, I don't care if it does ends a human life, just like I don't care when people end human lives in self-defense. The woman is the one being harmed. She is simply more important even if the fetus is Jesus himself. I frankly don't give a **** what a fetus is, which is why I don't care even when women have late abortions and things get a bit more fuzzy in terms of what a fetus is biologically. Still don't care, and certainly not about to say anything to a woman who's almost certainly aborting when she didn't even want to due to some kind of problem. She's got enough to deal with, without a bunch of hypocritical control freaks screaming at her. So I don't give a **** whether that thing she's aborting is a blob or a person or a chair or a ham sandwich. Frankly not anyone's business but hers as far as I'm concerned.

Got it?
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Yes. The bold says it all.
So yes, it's lying. You claim to not be against abortion, yet you want to psychologically abuse women who have one. You're lying.
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I am not lying. You have made my point for me. You don't care that it ends a human life. I do. You care more about supposed "psychological abuse" than you do about human life. I got it. Thank you for exposing just how morally bankrupt your position is. You are a fantastic spokesman for the right to life movement.
 
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SmokeAndMirrors said:
Just another example of how these people think. "The only moral abortion is my abortion. The only moral violence is my violence. The only moral tax fraud is my tax fraud."

This mentality makes it fairly clear why they're incapable of sympathizing with women; they're all about themselves. I don't really believe most of them care about ZEF's either -- most are happy to dispose of them when convenient, or if they deem the woman innocent of the terrible crime of actually enjoying sex.

It all revolves around them and their need to feel in control of everything and everyone.
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Way to overgeneralize. I don't think this way at all.
 
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well, this stayed on topic....
 
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Moderator's Warning:
The topic is: Group Behind Planned Parenthood Sting Video May Have Tricked IRS, Donors

This is not the thread to hash out the topic of Abortion to the exclusion of that topic. Those wishing to do so, can find many threads in the Abortion forum to make that argument. Here, it is just derailing.

Stick to the topic or points and thread bans are possible.
 
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Fletch said:
Yes. The bold says it all.
I am not lying. You have made my point for me. You don't care that it ends a human life. I do. You care more about supposed "psychological abuse" than you do about human life. I got it. Thank you for exposing just how morally bankrupt your position is. You are a fantastic spokesman for the right to life movement.
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I don't think one human life gets to enslave or harm another. Neither do you, in other cases -- you're pro-gun, aren't you. You don't cry tears over those who are killed in the process of taking another's bodily integrity.

But for some reason, with women, it's different. They don't really deserve the right to protect their bodies, to you.

Morally bankrupt indeed. You're just much crocodile tears to hide your sexist logic.
 
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SmokeAndMirrors said:
I don't think one human life gets to enslave or harm another. Neither do you, in other cases -- you're pro-gun, aren't you. You don't cry tears over those who are killed in the process of taking another's bodily integrity.

But for some reason, with women, it's different. They don't really deserve the right to protect their bodies, to you.

Morally bankrupt indeed. You're just much crocodile tears to hide your sexist logic.
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There is the other side of the liberal coin--disagree with a liberal and you are a sexist, homophobe, hater of the poor and women or fill in the blank. Congratulations on your passing your indoctrination finals. Here is the bottom line: you know a fetus is a human life and you don't care if it is destroyed. There aren't many positions more morally bankrupt than that. Let me spell things out for you a bit. Abortion isn't a political issue (which means the vast majority of liberals cant contemplate it since every issue is a political issue to liberals) nor is it a religious issue. It is a moral issue than can be influenced by science and medicine. Liberals who pretend that what is growing inside a womans womb is not human, or worse, don't care, should really not have a seat at the table when discussing this issue. They should stick to things like banning the Confederate Flag or other issues of equal unimportance.
 
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