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Grooming gang in UK groomed babies for sex [W93] (1 Viewer)

Normally such news is brought here within minutes of publication. We're now into the third day here since the judgement was handed down. What could possibly be different about these appalling creeps?
 
You KNEW PeteEU had found a non-Asian/NON-Pakistani, incident to tu quoque, quoque, quoque with, because his Politics prevent him from admitting this Oft ethno-religious crime, is wildly Inordinately committed by Pakistani Muslims against 'Whites', Indian Hindus, Sikhs, etc.
So that even other South Asians hate when these crimes are reported as merely that general term rather than the much Fairer 'Pakistanis'.

Complaints over use of 'Asian' label in grooming cases
16 May 2012
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-18092605
The groups say the 'failure to discuss the issue' is feeding the cause of far-right groups
Groups representing Sikh and Hindu communities have complained about the term "Asian" being used to describe the men involved in grooming trials.​


ie. in what may eventually become the first large city in the UK that has a Muslim majority.

23 April 2015
By Jeanette Oldham
Grooming gang 'drugged and raped 15-year-old girl' at a Birmingham hotel - Birmingham Mail
Brave teenager tells how she was abused by three Asian men, but claims police failed to act
 
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What's the potential penalty for these guys?
 
Terrible...
 
Life in jail, the whole lot of them. And jail will be hell for them as soon as their fellow inmates find out what they are in jail for, and they deserve that.
 
PeteEU said:
Paedophile gang groomed families to rape and abuse babies live on internet | Daily Mail Online


Utterly disgusting gang.. must be Muslims or Asians.. no wait.


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I'm actually terribly shocked at this:
They also used a term investigators had not come across before, ‘nep’, which referred to ‘nepiophile’, someone sexually attracted to babies and toddlers.
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Are they ****ing serious? Did they really not have a ****ing clue that nep or nepi is used as short for nepephilia. So much for them knowing jack **** about what they're paid to be on the lookout for - that's the appropriate term. ped/pedi = pediphile. nep/nepi = nepiphile.

If undercover agents who specialize in this don't know this **** - but I do - what in the ****, seriously? Dumbasses. Get your ****ing heads out of your asses and learn a few things. IT takes like FIVE MINUTES at asstr to learn this **** online. ****ing pathetic. That's honestly a goddamned disgrace - why bother being on the job if you're too dumb to learn the age-old common lingo that's been around FOREVER.

Oh - is that the sun in the sky? Gee I didn't know what that was called.

That does really explain quite a bit - I bet you that the odds of them going TO the source to FIND these people directly hasn't even crossed their mind. They'd have no idea where to really start, would they? All reliant on spying on emails through servers and other roundabout ****.

lolliwood
lolita
lollicon
maesophilia
maeso
birthing fetish

Come on - go clicking around the internet, pretend your a freak with a weird sex fetish, and you'll find people easy peasy. But - they're apparently to ****ing stupid to do exactly that.

I mean - is it just me - or does knowing some basic SCIENTIFIC terminology seem like not too much of a stretch for people who are supposed to know more about pedo-rings than anybody on earth?

What else don't they know about it? Seriously - maybe I should write an indepth essay which covers all I DO know and then send it to these dumb****s.
 
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mbig said:
You KNEW PeteEU had found a non-Asian/NON-Pakistani, incident to tu quoque, quoque, quoque with, because his Politics prevent him from admitting this Oft ethno-religious crime, is wildly Inordinately committed by Pakistani Muslims against 'Whites', Indian Hindus, Sikhs, etc.
So that even other South Asians hate when these crimes are reported as merely that general term rather than the much Fairer 'Pakistanis'.
Complaints over use of 'Asian' label in grooming cases
16 May 2012
Complaints over use of 'Asian' label in grooming cases - BBC News
The groups say the 'failure to discuss the issue' is feeding the cause of far-right groups
Groups representing Sikh and Hindu communities have complained about the term "Asian" being used to describe the men involved in grooming trials.​


ie. in what may eventually become the first large city in the UK that has a Muslim majority.

23 April 2015
By Jeanette Oldham
Grooming gang 'drugged and raped 15-year-old girl' at a Birmingham hotel - Birmingham Mail
Brave teenager tells how she was abused by three Asian men, but claims police failed to act
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Questioning the motivation of those that continually make black and white assertions based upon culture, ethnicity and race is valid. That you don't like having that motivation questioned along with the right and far right is a point of debate; If you don't like the tag, then stop over-employing it. And, while we're at it, flimsy accusations of 'political correctness gone mad' is not only a worse Tu Quoque, it is also a pisspoor cliche.
 
gunner said:
Only you would use such a story, for point scoring. How disgusting. Tell me, 'this gang' were any of the members related? Were they mostly from the same town /community? This case is truly shocking, but what you constantly ignore is the specific issues relating to these gangs.
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Irony meters exploding all over the forum as you post. I'm no fan of PeteEU but, the backpedaling going on in here would get you up the Alp D'Huez faster than Nairo Quintana.

Let me straighten it out for you. These people are criminals and they have been caught.
 
William Rea said:
Irony meters exploding all over the forum as you post. I'm no fan of PeteEU but, the backpedaling going on in here would get you up the Alp D'Huez faster than Nairo Quintana.

Let me straighten it out for you. These people are criminals and they have been caught.
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In their minds if Muslims are doing it then its bad, if white Britons do the same thing then its perfectly okay...
 
PeteEU said:
Paedophile gang groomed families to rape and abuse babies live on internet | Daily Mail Online


Utterly disgusting gang.. must be Muslims or Asians.. no wait.
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Manc Skipper said:
Normally such news is brought here within minutes of publication. We're now into the third day here since the judgement was handed down. What could possibly be different about these appalling creeps?
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William Rea said:
Irony meters exploding all over the forum as you post. I'm no fan of PeteEU but, the backpedaling going on in here would get you up the Alp D'Huez faster than Nairo Quintana.

Let me straighten it out for you. These people are criminals and they have been caught.
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PoS said:
In their minds if Muslims are doing it then its bad, if white Britons do the same thing then its perfectly okay...
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Can I ask what the purpose of the thread is then? Is it to discuss grooming gangs or is it to discuss other poster's reactions?

I see no attempt to discuss the disgusting crimes committed by the gang - only an attempt to bait.

It's been recognised again and again on these forums and I have pointed it out that the white population is largely responsible for the majority of paedophile crime in the UK but it has also been pointed out that the Pakistani muslim community is largely over-represented in paedophile statistics.

So, that would give you a couple of options to discuss - treat this crime and gang as an interesting story to discuss or compare the statistics of one ethnic group's statistics against another. It should not be about baiting other posters.

Why not discuss the crimes then - they are disgusting enough; why discuss the reactions or not of other posters?
 
PoS said:
In their minds if Muslims are doing it then its bad, if white Britons do the same thing then its perfectly okay...
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I think in general terms, you might be wrong. But I like your attitude!
;)
 
Manc Skipper said:
Normally such news is brought here within minutes of publication. We're now into the third day here since the judgement was handed down. What could possibly be different about these appalling creeps?
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It always surprises me how excited people get about sexual aberration.
 
gunner said:
Only you would use such a story, for point scoring. How disgusting. Tell me, 'this gang' were any of the members related? Were they mostly from the same town /community? This case is truly shocking, but what you constantly ignore is the specific issues relating to these gangs.
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LOL and the other stories about "Muslim grooming gangs" is not scoring political points? Hell you are trying to do it in your comment.. what the hell does "same town/community" or being related have to do with paedophilia grooming gangs? Is it maybe that in the other cases there were a few men who were related and they were muslim? And you are attack me for point scoring? Seriously?
 
joG said:
List of pedophile and pederast advocacy organizations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It seems that it is not a British sickness.
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Nope far far from it. However the big media cases have been mostly British and mostly "Asian Muslim", which is in part my point. This case is basically no where in the media, barely reported and to be frank having sex with a baby is far far far far worse than anything that happened in places like Rotherham or whatever it is called. So why the inconsistency in the British media, but media in general and on these boards? Why was I, a non Brit that had to bring this post out, when other Brits were very quick to post similar cases when Muslims were involved?

These guys, these Christians, need to be punished to the extreme.. and their communities and towns need to be asked and basically hammered for no doing anything before one of their own started the case by admitting it to the police. Why was there no one in the communities they were in that did anything? Why was there no police action? Why was there no social workers involved? All the same questions asked about the "Muslim/asian" grooming gangs and their communities must be asked about these guys and their communities no?
 
Infinite Chaos said:
Can I ask what the purpose of the thread is then? Is it to discuss grooming gangs or is it to discuss other poster's reactions?
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There are 2 purposes.

1) Expose and debate that child abuse and grooming is not an "Asian/Muslim" thing regardless of certain people in the media and on these boards try to paint it so. Here we have the absolute worse case I have heard off for many years, and it is done by white Christians.

2) To point out the hypocrisy of the media and society. It is startling in the difference in media coverage and to be brutally frank.. we are talking about sexual exploitation of babies...... all child abuse is horrible, but this is babies and the media are relatively speaking not covering it vs the other cases?

There is no doubt that these white Christian men and possibly women are the lowest of the worst scum on this planet and they should be punished to the fullest extent of the law (and preferably more) and we should ask questions about how on earth this can happen. But as I stated above.. how can we ask those questions or even debate it, when the media barely covered it? One would think that sexual abuse of babies is a bigger new story than a 100 year old possible genocide or Anzac day.
 
PeteEU said:
Nope far far from it. However the big media cases have been mostly British and mostly "Asian Muslim", which is in part my point. This case is basically no where in the media, barely reported and to be frank having sex with a baby is far far far far worse than anything that happened in places like Rotherham or whatever it is called. So why the inconsistency in the British media, but media in general and on these boards? Why was I, a non Brit that had to bring this post out, when other Brits were very quick to post similar cases when Muslims were involved?

These guys, these Christians, need to be punished to the extreme.. and their communities and towns need to be asked and basically hammered for no doing anything before one of their own started the case by admitting it to the police. Why was there no one in the communities they were in that did anything? Why was there no police action? Why was there no social workers involved? All the same questions asked about the "Muslim/asian" grooming gangs and their communities must be asked about these guys and their communities no?
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What kind of sex with a baby? ....

I wondered why you should be interested in reporting on crimes perped in the UK too.
 
Manc Skipper said:
Normally such news is brought here within minutes of publication. We're now into the third day here since the judgement was handed down. What could possibly be different about these appalling creeps?
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Maybe the hardship of early life just lost out against thousands drowning*) before the beaches of fortress EU. ;)

*) Or brtter said: Deliberately allowed to drown.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
Can I ask what the purpose of the thread is then? Is it to discuss grooming gangs or is it to discuss other poster's reactions?

I see no attempt to discuss the disgusting crimes committed by the gang - only an attempt to bait.

It's been recognised again and again on these forums and I have pointed it out that the white population is largely responsible for the majority of paedophile crime in the UK but it has also been pointed out that the Pakistani muslim community is largely over-represented in paedophile statistics.

So, that would give you a couple of options to discuss - treat this crime and gang as an interesting story to discuss or compare the statistics of one ethnic group's statistics against another. It should not be about baiting other posters.

Why not discuss the crimes then - they are disgusting enough; why discuss the reactions or not of other posters?
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You know what IC, I get what you are saying but, this thread is ENTIRELY justified in the context of the forum. As they say in Dad's Army, 'They don't like it up 'em'. Oh, and by the way, search back through the forum and I believe that you will find that I have always maintained that these people are criminals, regardless of race, creed, culture or any other 'not like us' label you want to put on it. So, all of you making a dash for the moral high ground here, I think you need to slow down and take a look at yourselves first.
 
William Rea said:
Irony meters exploding all over the forum as you post. I'm no fan of PeteEU but, the backpedaling going on in here would get you up the Alp D'Huez faster than Nairo Quintana.
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Let me straighten it out for you. These people are criminals and they have been caught.
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PoS said:
In their minds if Muslims are doing it then its bad, if white Britons do the same thing then its perfectly okay...
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PeteEU said:
LOL and the other stories about "Muslim grooming gangs" is not scoring political points? Hell you are trying to do it in your comment.. what the hell does "same town/community" or being related have to do with paedophilia grooming gangs? Is it maybe that in the other cases there were a few men who were related and they were muslim? And you are attack me for point scoring? Seriously?
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I constantly get reminded of the facts 'most pedo gangs are white', constantly. So, because of this 'constant reminder' that to my mind not a single person disputes, why mention it? If you wish to provide a series of threads on white men committing these atrocious acts, be my guest. What would be your reason for doing it? Remember everyone accepts the facts.

NOW, let me remind you of what I've done for sometime. I've provided evidence-upon-evidence of mainly Pakistani men acting in a 'specific' way (the word 'specific' is crucial). I have not been following these stories for some arbitrary fascination, but because of the 'specifics' of the offenders. These 'specifics (remember, that crucial word) can be juxtaposed with other traits from within, mainly Pakistani, but more widely Muslim communities in general. Traits 'specific' to these gangs are of sharing young girls amongst family members and close friends (not random paedophiles from the internet, who's only mutual interest is young children) see the 'specific' difference? Not ONE of you has provided anything remotely similar in terms of another pedo gang, not even close. Just silence, on your part. It is possible, if you read court papers, news articles, witness testimonies, victim statements to see the not so subtle nuances. Bingo! we're back to the 'specifics' of the mainly Pakistani gangs. Can you see the difference?

"Muslim cabinet minister Baroness Warsi today dramatically hit out at the 'small minority' of Pakistani men who see white girls as 'fair game' for sexual abuse.

In comments following the Rochdale grooming scandal involving nine Muslim men, the Conservative Party co-chairman admitted that race was a factor."

'A small minority of Pakistani men DO believe white girls are fair game': Tory cabinet minister Baroness Warsi calls on mosques to act after Rochdale grooming gang scandal | Daily Mail Online

For balance:

"Greater Manchester Police, in whose area the offences took place, has declared that 95 per cent of the men on its sex offenders register are white."

There you go, just to compound the point that we ALL know. But:

" things do look different when the focus is narrowed to crimes involving groups of men grooming girls on the street. In 18 child sexual exploitation trials since 1997 – in Derby, Leeds, Blackpool, Blackburn, Rotherham, Sheffield, Rochdale, Oldham and Birmingham – relating to the on-street grooming of girls aged 11 to 16 by two or more men, most of those convicted were of Pakistani heritage."

Damn, those 'specifics' keep cropping up!

Child sex grooming: the Asian question - Crime - UK - The Independent

"A model of Pakistani-heritage men targeting young white girls for sexual exploitation does exist and authorities must be able to freely raise concerns without fear of being labelled racist, an influential group of MPs has concluded."

Not more evidence of 'specifics'

Child Grooming And Sexual Abuse By Pakistani-Heritage Men Is A Problem That Needs Adressing, Say MPs

"For this particular sort of crime, the street grooming – the trafficking of girls in northern towns in Derby, Leeds, Blackpool, Blackburn, Oldham and Rochdale – there's very troubling evidence that Asians are overwhelmingly represented in prosecutions for such offences"

Rochdale gang jailed for total of 77 years for sexually exploiting young girls | UK news | The Guardian
 
William Rea said:
You know what IC, I get what you are saying but, this thread is ENTIRELY justified in the context of the forum. As they say in Dad's Army, 'They don't like it up 'em'. Oh, and by the way, search back through the forum and I believe that you will find that I have always maintained that these people are criminals, regardless of race, creed, culture or any other 'not like us' label you want to put on it. So, all of you making a dash for the moral high ground here, I think you need to slow down and take a look at yourselves first.
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And the overwhelmingly obvious reason you like to 'lump everyone together' is because of your innate PC'ness.
 
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