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Off topic. Stop trolling, please.
It's almost as disgusting as discarding an unborn child because it isn't convienent to bare.
j-mac
Off topic. Stop trolling, please.
Once again the Cult of Love at work.
Can you believe the Liberals that think the Muslim Brotherhood that is participating in the protests is no threat in Egypt.
This is what you get when allow a CULT to call itself a Religion.
It's because there are still cultures in the world that consider females as property... disposable property at that. She basically "allowed" herself to be raped by a married man, so in that culture she deserves death on two fronts: First, because she was no longer pure and therefore a dishonor to her family; second, because the fact that the man who raped her was married meant that she committed adultry.
The brutality of the human species never fails to astound and devastate me.
Maybe another rationalization is that she failed to respect Muslim clothing rules, such as covering her body, and thus is blamed for the rape. (Just an idea for a rationalization.)
The Qu'ran doesn't support killing? I could show you otherwise. I do wonder why people who are not Muslim seem to think they understand the faith better than Muslims, who spend their lives in the study of the Qu'ran. Seems arrogant.What happened here, is not Islam.
This is false Islam.
True Islam does not support this.
It does not support killing.
The Quran supports none of these things.
False muslims and xenophobes alike have twisted and subverted Islam to suit their goals.
You my friend, belong to the cult of the ignorant.
Just a thought.
j-mac
What happened here, is not Islam.
This is false Islam.
True Islam does not support this.
It does not support killing.
The Quran supports none of these things.
False muslims and xenophobes alike have twisted and subverted Islam to suit their goals.
You my friend, belong to the cult of the ignorant.
False or not, these people use it in Islam's name, associate it directly with Sharia law. Who's going to go there and tell them their version of Islam is all wrong and teach the "True Islam" whatever that is... ?
Not everyone has made it out of the stoneage Ockham.
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That's a very logical rationalization, but not realistic when looking at this from these people's perspective.What happened is more a reflection of their culture and not their religion.
I don't want them to be like us. I would hope that whatever they are like, they know the difference between basic "right" and "wrong". I do not know of a case where "we" have put to death a 14 year old girl because she was raped. If you know of one, please show me the link.You judge without understanding, ya'll look at this from your comfy western homes and say "How barbaric"!!!! Distgusting! why can't they all be like us, and put people to death with lethal injections after years of appeals, and not execute the young and the defenceless.
It is Sharia law. Sharia is the preferred application of laws under Islam by many countries around the world. You know as well as I do (or I would hope so) that proving rape in Sharia requires 3 witnesses. If three witnesses are not willing or able to stick by the girl raped, the girl is often charged with fornication/adultry or something similar. That charge carries with it a death penalty. There are lots of cases where this has happened and continues to happen: In Iran, in Afghanistan, in Bangladesh, and other Islamic ruled countries. My point here is they, the people in these countries, DO see it condoned by the Quran as they live under Sharia law rule. You're academic analysis is very western and separates Islam and Sharia between the undefined "true Islam" and Islam these people live under every day. They have and know of no such differentiation. The issue is it's NOT morally wrong where they are - and that is one of the reasons why Sharia and laws which support Islam (as Sharia doesn't exist in any other religion BUT Islam) should not be spread. It's why the West does not want Islamic control of Egypt or any other ME country and prefers secular rule. These people are not barbarians and they don't live in the stone age - they have cell phones, cars, live in houses with running water and electricity. These people are BRAINWASHED by religious zelots who want to control the population. They do this by instituting Sharia which is the power base of control over the population. Once that's instituted, they indoctrinate the young to accept such rule and they then see this 14 year old's whipping death as the norm.What they did was wrong, and not condoned by the Quran, it is a reflection of their society and attitudes, which yes are morally wrong and sickening to me to be honest with you. Not everyone has made it out of the stoneage Ockham.
I'm not so myopic as to think things around the world do not effect others or influence people, laws, governments, etc. Yes, and the Earth will eventually be disintegrated by our sun becoming a Red Giant in approximately 2 billion years... so why worry? Comon dude... really? That's your point?It's not happening here, why do you care? It doesn't affect you or concern you. Not too long ago we were burning woman at the stake for being witches, all things must pass.
Many. Sharia is a scourge.But at the same time as this is distgusting, I wonder how many young girls in Africa were raped and killed today?
Or maybe she was just such a whore that not even concealing clothing was enough to protect her.
Honestly, once you get to the point that you're blaming young women for being victimized, you're capable of believing any damn foolishness you please.
Just in case that wasn't obvious, for the record, I just tried to figure out how these people justified their actions. I don't support or condone them in any way.
What happened is more a reflection of their culture and not their religion.
You judge without understanding, ya'll look at this from your comfy western homes and say "How barbaric"!!!! Distgusting! why can't they all be like us, and put people to death with lethal injections after years of appeals, and not execute the young and the defenceless.
What they did was wrong, and not condoned by the Quran, it is a reflection of their society and attitudes, which yes are morally wrong and sickening to me to be honest with you. Not everyone has made it out of the stoneage Ockham.
It's not happening here, why do you care? It doesn't affect you or concern you. Not too long ago we were burning woman at the stake for being witches, all things must pass.
But at the same time as this is distgusting, I wonder how many young girls in Africa were raped and killed today?
Honor killings are justified under Islam in some Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia. For example, tenth-grade textbooks teach Saudi children that it is permissible to kill adulterers. In April 2008, a girl was killed by her father for talking to a boy on Facebook, an online social networking website. A leading Saudi cleric, Sheikh Ali al-Maliki, was outraged that girls had access to such websites where they could post pictures of themselves and otherwise "behave badly," but showed no concern over the girl actually killed.
Honor killings are justified as a necessary part of culture in other Muslim countries such as Jordan, which is technically a secular kingdom with a representative parliament. In 2001 King Abdallah presented a bill outlining stiff penalties for honor killings, but parliament rejected it, stating, "it [punishing honor killings] would encourage adultery and create new social problems." Four years later, honor killings accounted for one-third of all violent deaths in Jordan in 2005, where perpetrators received as little as six months in prison under the penal code.
Secular Iraq offers no punishment. Consider the following anecdotal evidence. This year, a 17-year-old named Rand Abdel-Qader was killed by her father because she had a crush on a British soldier. The arresting Iraqi sergeant stated that "not much can be done when we have an 'honor killing' case. You are in a Muslim society and women should live under religious laws." The father also killed his wife, who left him after the murder of their daughter. He will not be prosecuted for either murder in Iraq.
Does Islam Justify Honor Killings? :: Islamist Watch
Question:
Does the Quran really contain dozens of verses promoting violence?
Summary Answer:
The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, most of the verses of violence in the Quran are open-ended, meaning that the historical context is not embedded within the surrounding text. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Quran.
Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. This proclivity toward violence - and Muhammad's own martial legacy - has left a trail of blood and tears across world history.
TheReligionofPeace - Islam: Verses of Violence
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