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Gov McDonnel (R) Flip-Flops on Debt Ceiling-Learns His States Credit Rating at risk

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GOP Gov. McDonnell Flip-Flops On Debt Ceiling After Learning His State’s Credit Rating Is At Risk | ThinkProgress


So much for republican principles. The only one they have is to do and say whatever is convenient at the moment

earlier this week, the credit rating agency Moody’s warned that five states — Virginia, Maryland, New Mexico, South Carolina, and Tennessee — could have their credit downgraded if the federal government’s credit rating goes down, “because their dependence on federal revenue makes them vulnerable to a U.S. credit cut.” In response, Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) urged Congress to come to a debt ceiling compromise “immediately“:


“There’s got to be a compromise, I’m not going to tell them how to do it. I’d suggest they try spending cuts — everybody knows they’re spending too much,” McDonnell said on MSNBC. “But they’ve got to get this done immediately or the uncertainty for the business community is going to be just devastating to our country.”
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But McDonnell was not always so keen on Congress reaching a compromise. In fact, just a few months ago, he told the ultra-conservative Human Events that the debt ceiling shouldn’t be raised at all, unless Republicans received all their demands:


“The only way that it is appropriate to increase the debt limit,” McDonnell told HUMAN EVENTS, “is if there is a tangible, written, irreversible set of structural reforms in spending in the United States government that makes sure we are on a downward trajectory in spending that will get us to a balanced budget much farther.”

“If we don’t achieve those goals, then I don’t see any gain in increasing the debt limit.”
 
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Typical liberal logic: compromise is essential to get things done in Washington until you're the one who compromises. Then you have abandoned your principles.
 
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I don't really see what he did as a compromise. It's simply a change of position. I can understand the arguement that it is hypocritical for being against something until you see something in it for you.

The problem is that most won't condemn all for doing that in most cases.
 
Re: Gov McDonnel (R) Flip-Flops on Debt Ceiling-Learns His States Credit Rating at ri

I am sick and tired of the term "flip flopping". It promotes the idiotic idea that is better to continue doing something stupid rather than change your strategy to suit the circumstances. McDonnel is taking the only sane position in which the debt ceiling needs to be raised to avoid defaulting. It is a valid criticism that his rhetoric from a few months ago was pandering. However, the country can survive with hypocritical politicians a lot better than it can survive without good credit. Sensible policy choices are more important than consistency.
 
Re: Gov McDonnel (R) Flip-Flops on Debt Ceiling-Learns His States Credit Rating at ri

Does not matter he is a governor and has no part in the process. Who care what he says. This is the democrats showing they have nothing. If I was the liberals I would watch Obama he seems to be getting nervous.
 
Re: Gov McDonnel (R) Flip-Flops on Debt Ceiling-Learns His States Credit Rating at ri

I am sick and tired of the term "flip flopping". It promotes the idiotic idea that is better to continue doing something stupid rather than change your strategy to suit the circumstances. McDonnel is taking the only sane position in which the debt ceiling needs to be raised to avoid defaulting.

As has been pointed out many times, there is zero chance the country will default. None. It's not going to happen.
 
Re: Gov McDonnel (R) Flip-Flops on Debt Ceiling-Learns His States Credit Rating at ri

So much for republican principles. The only one they have is to do and say whatever is convenient at the moment

What say ye about Democrat principles?

 
Re: Gov McDonnel (R) Flip-Flops on Debt Ceiling-Learns His States Credit Rating at ri

As has been pointed out many times, there is zero chance the country will default. None. It's not going to happen.

Technically yes. However, the consequences of not raising the debt ceiling are severe and do include damage to our credit rating.
 
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Μολὼν λαβέ;1059672555 said:
What say ye about Democrat principles?



Obama has admitted that his opposition was politically motivated. At least he was honest for one moment

McConnel acts as if his position hasn't changed. Rightwingers can't ever admit to making a mistake. bush* couldn't think of one mistake he made as president
 
Re: Gov McDonnel (R) Flip-Flops on Debt Ceiling-Learns His States Credit Rating at ri

Technically yes. However, the consequences of not raising the debt ceiling are severe and do include damage to our credit rating.

That is more talking points by democrats. The doom and gloom is more scare tactics than it is reality.

The Truth About the Debt Ceiling - Reason Magazine
 
Re: Gov McDonnel (R) Flip-Flops on Debt Ceiling-Learns His States Credit Rating at ri

As has been pointed out many times, there is zero chance the country will default. None. It's not going to happen.

I would argue that, please see this
 
Re: Gov McDonnel (R) Flip-Flops on Debt Ceiling-Learns His States Credit Rating at ri

It is true that not raising the debt ceiling will still allow for the interest on the debt to be paid. However, the consequences will still be severe. Even if we pay the interest, our credit rating will hurt on both a state and federal level. Interest rates will rise, undermining the effectiveness of any cuts. That doesn't even get into the chaos and instability of having to halt 43% of payments. Raising the debt ceiling may be distasteful, but it is the best option. Question his motives all you like, but at the end of the day McDonnel is making the right call.
 
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I would argue that, please see this

First off the article starts off with an opinion from Moody's. We have long ago shown where they can't properly rate the correct time of day even. They have been a part of the mess when they gave A ratings to absolute garbage.

Second, even an article trying to argue the point notes that the chances are "quite small".
 
Re: Gov McDonnel (R) Flip-Flops on Debt Ceiling-Learns His States Credit Rating at ri

It is true that not raising the debt ceiling will still allow for the interest on the debt to be paid. However, the consequences will still be severe. Even if we pay the interest, our credit rating will hurt on both a state and federal level. Interest rates will rise, undermining the effectiveness of any cuts. That doesn't even get into the chaos and instability of having to halt 43% of payments. Raising the debt ceiling may be distasteful, but it is the best option. Question his motives all you like, but at the end of the day McDonnel is making the right call.

We need to raise rates so retiree's can quit having to take jobs at 75.
 
Re: Gov McDonnel (R) Flip-Flops on Debt Ceiling-Learns His States Credit Rating at ri

Μολὼν λαβέ;1059672504 said:
Typical liberal logic: compromise is essential to get things done in Washington until you're the one who compromises. Then you have abandoned your principles.

That's cause libs never have to abandon theirs.....IT'S SPEND SPEND SPEND SPEND SPEND.
 
Re: Gov McDonnel (R) Flip-Flops on Debt Ceiling-Learns His States Credit Rating at ri

We need to raise rates so retiree's can quit having to take jobs at 75.

What ?
 
Re: Gov McDonnel (R) Flip-Flops on Debt Ceiling-Learns His States Credit Rating at ri

First off the article starts off with an opinion from Moody's. We have long ago shown where they can't properly rate the correct time of day even. They have been a part of the mess when they gave A ratings to absolute garbage.

Second, even an article trying to argue the point notes that the chances are "quite small".

Do you really think they read beyond the headline?
 
Re: Gov McDonnel (R) Flip-Flops on Debt Ceiling-Learns His States Credit Rating at ri

It is true that not raising the debt ceiling will still allow for the interest on the debt to be paid. However, the consequences will still be severe. Even if we pay the interest, our credit rating will hurt on both a state and federal level. Interest rates will rise, undermining the effectiveness of any cuts. That doesn't even get into the chaos and instability of having to halt 43% of payments. Raising the debt ceiling may be distasteful, but it is the best option. Question his motives all you like, but at the end of the day McDonnel is making the right call.

He doesn't have a call it is not his place to tell congress what to do
 
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That's cause libs never have to abandon theirs.....IT'S SPEND SPEND SPEND SPEND SPEND.

Actually, it was the republicans who spent like drunken sailors on leave when they controlled the White house. the senate and the house. The TSA, HSA, Medicare D, the bloated pork-laden Farm, Energy and Transportation bills, etc...

I know, I know...Obama made them do it!!! :lol:
 
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Retiree's expected to live off their savings. There is no doing that getting .5% interest. And no, I do not blame them for not wanting to risk their life savings into the corrupt markets.
 
Re: Gov McDonnel (R) Flip-Flops on Debt Ceiling-Learns His States Credit Rating at ri

He doesn't have a call it is not his place to tell congress what to do

Yes, elected officials have no call stating their opinions; That's a job reserved to Reason Magazine!! :roll:
 
Re: Gov McDonnel (R) Flip-Flops on Debt Ceiling-Learns His States Credit Rating at ri

McConnell switched to the democratic party? :roll:

He may have the way he is talking
 
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