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GOP. What does the party of law and order tell itself when trump defies a judges orders?

WorldWatcher said:
I did.

It doesn't say that the government of Venezuela invaded US Territory.

The DOJ is also saying that it's based on TdA being a terrorist organization and NOT that they are a government.

So when did the government of Venezuela invade the US. Was it a land attack, seaborne landing on the beach, or did they parachute troops into Wyoming?

WW
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You didn’t read the Proclamation.
 
Napoleon said:
You didn’t read the Proclamation.
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I did.

It doesn't say that the government of Venezuela invaded US Territory.

The DOJ is also saying that it's based on TdA being a terrorist organization and NOT that they are a government.

So when did the government of Venezuela invade the US. Was it a land attack, seaborne landing on the beach, or did they parachute troops into Wyoming?

WW
 
WorldWatcher said:
I did.

It doesn't say that the government of Venezuela invaded US Territory.

The DOJ is also saying that it's based on TdA being a terrorist organization and NOT that they are a government.

So when did the government of Venezuela invade the US. Was it a land attack, seaborne landing on the beach, or did they parachute troops into Wyoming?

WW
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You haven’t read the proclamation and apparently you’re not going to.
 
Napoleon said:
You haven’t read the proclamation and apparently you’re not going to.
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I did.

It doesn't say that the government of Venezuela invaded US Territory.

The DOJ is also saying that it's based on TdA being a terrorist organization and NOT that they are a government.

So when did the government of Venezuela invade the US. Was it a land attack, seaborne landing on the beach, or did they parachute troops into Wyoming?

WW
 
multivita-man said:
Yeah, anyway, it's illegal to defy a judge's orders. It's called contempt of court.
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Not when the judge doesn't have any jurisdiction.

A judge could order me to pray to the serpent God three times a day and I can defy that order because he doesn't have any jurisdiction.
 
redbeer said:
What?......now the left is in support of violent gang members here illegally? What has become of your party?
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All through history the threat of "violent gangs" has fed a paranoia that has allowed the likes of Idi Amin, Adolf Hitler and Donald Trump.

As usual, it's a total fabrication. "violent gangs" are ALWAYS the reason for martial law. It's also the phrase the initially used after nine innocent bystanders where gunned down by the National Guard in 1969 in Ohio.

There's always "violent gangs" where ever the cameras are not!
 
element94 said:
It's the judge's job to dictate when the executive is breaking the law, which with Trump is 24/7. It's called checks and balances built into the U.S. Constitution, heard of it? :rolleyes:
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:rolleyes: yourself. Boasberg has no standing to confront the president on constitutionally expressed presidential powers. As shortsighted as the left commonly is, this is really an issue that presidents left and right should be able to execute without judicial interference.
 
humbolt said:
:rolleyes: yourself. Boasberg has no standing to confront the president on constitutionally expressed presidential powers. As shortsighted as the left commonly is, this is really an issue that presidents left and right should be able to execute without judicial interference.
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Where is the constitutional provision for the President not to follow the law?

I thought it was just the opposite, that the President was required to faithfully execute the laws of the United States.

WW
 
redbeer said:
Egg prices are going down and it only took less than two months of following a party who killed multi-millions of egg laying chickens.....have you thanked Trump today?
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Your claim is false.
USDA, not Biden, ordered killing of infected chickens


Let me start by simply pointing out that President Joe Biden never ordered the killing of over 150 million egg-laying chickens.


It was the US Department of Agriculture (USDA) that directed the culling of chickens infected by the avian flu (influenza) virus.


Most infected chickens will die from HPAI


The avian flu currently ravaging chicken populations in the United States has been labelled as Highly-Pathogenic Avian Influenza (HPAI) of the Influenza A H5N1 type, and is both highly-infectious and extremely deadly to birds like chickens, turkeys, pheasants, ducks, and geese.


HPAI is rapidly fatal for poultry, with chickens experiencing respiratory distress and extreme diarrhoea, followed rapidly by death. As the CDC points out, 90% to 100% of infected chickens will die from this deadly bird flu virus – usually within 48 hours.


According to the USDA, the H5N1 virus surged in November and December 2024, killing 17.2 million egg-laying hens – half of the year’s total deaths attributed to the bird flu. Even if USDA (or Biden) did not order the mass killings, most (if not all) of those infected chickens will die anyway.


Culling helps to limit spread of bird flu


As the American Farm Bureau Federation explained, such mass killings are required by the USDA to contain the spread of the deadly and highly-infectious virus. Culling the entire flock at an affected farm will help limit or block the spread of the virus to other farms.


In fact, “letting nature takes its course” will likely allow the highly-pathogenic avian influenza to spread to many more farms, and kill even more chickens. Not only would eggs cost even more, so will chicken and chicken meat products.


In short – there is nothing “insane” about culling chicken flocks infected with Highly-Pathogenic Avian Influenza (HPAI).
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www.techarp.com

Did Biden Really Kill 150 Million Egg-Laying Chickens?! | Tech ARP

Did President Joe Biden order the 'insane slaughter' of 150 million egg-laying chickens before leaving office?! Here are the facts!
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CLAX1911 said:
Not when the judge doesn't have any jurisdiction.
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You think a federal judge doesn't when he does and doesn't have jurisdiction? Trump can appeal if he wants, but he can't just ignore a judge's orders -- not legally or constitutionally, anyway.

CLAX1911 said:
A judge could order me to pray to the serpent God three times a day and I can defy that order because he doesn't have any jurisdiction.
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Actually, you can't. You can appeal. Then you can defy the order if the higher court agrees with you.
 
multivita-man said:
You think a federal judge doesn't when he does and doesn't have jurisdiction?
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When the Constitution gives them jurisdiction it's not a mystery.
multivita-man said:
Trump can appeal if he wants, but he can't just ignore a judge's orders -- not legally or constitutionally, anyway.
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Appeal to what with regard to this is the ultimate authority.
multivita-man said:
Actually, you can't. You can appeal. Then you can defy the order if the higher court agrees with you.
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No I can justify the order because it's not legitimate I don't have to appeal an illegitimate order.
 
CLAX1911 said:
When the Constitution gives them jurisdiction it's not a mystery.

Appeal to what with regard to this is the ultimate authority.

No I can justify the order because it's not legitimate I don't have to appeal an illegitimate order.
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Try not showing up to a court date and see what happens. You'll be surprised.
 
multivita-man said:
Try not showing up to a court date and see what happens. You'll be surprised.
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If the court ordered I show up dressed like a Jewish rabbi I'd absolutely defy that order. I have ever right to

Good news Trump is calling for impeachment of this crooked criminal judge.
 
CLAX1911 said:
If the court ordered I show up dressed like a Jewish rabbi I'd absolutely defy that order. I have ever right to

Good news Trump is calling for impeachment of this crooked criminal judge.
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Even better news. Justice John Roberts has rebuked Trump's call for impeachment of this district court judge.

www.bbc.com

Top US Supreme Court justice rebukes Trump's call to impeach judge

Chief Justice John Roberts issued a rare statement after Trump called for a judge that halted his deportations to be impeached.
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dockside said:
Even better news. Justice John Roberts has rebuked Trump's call for impeachment of this district court judge.

www.bbc.com

Top US Supreme Court justice rebukes Trump's call to impeach judge

Chief Justice John Roberts issued a rare statement after Trump called for a judge that halted his deportations to be impeached.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
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Some other judges are critisizing it as well.

apnews.com

2 senior judges, appointed by Republicans, speak out about threats against federal judiciary

Two senior federal judges, both appointed by Republican presidents, have spoken out against threats of violence and impeachment against their colleagues in the judiciary.
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"On impeachment talk, Sullivan said that parties to lawsuits get multiple cracks at the system, from the trial court to the Supreme Court.​
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“Impeachment is not, it shouldn’t be a short-circuiting of that process. And so it is concerning if impeachment is used in a way that is designed to do just that,” he said."​
 
multivita-man said:
Judges have the authority to declare whether laws are constitutional, and they have the authority to issue orders of the court to compel people -- all people -- to follow the law.
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Not on prior rulings by SCOTUS.
 
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