GOP Obstruction Killing 6000 Per Year

[calamity]

Rejecting the Medicaid expansion could kill nearly 6,000 people each year. Can the Democrats exploit that in November?

Insurance coverage reduced mortality rates by about 30 percent. For every 830 people newly insured, Massachusetts prevented one death per year.

If anything close to these results apply, the ACA is saving many lives every year. The new law is projected to cover more than 20 million adults who would otherwise go uninsured. The Massachusetts estimates imply that the ACA will prevent something in the neighborhood of 24,096 deaths every year (simply: 20 million divided by 830). That’s more than twice the number of Americans killed in gun homicides. It’s considerably more than the number of Americans who die from HIV/AIDS.

Read more: Death on the Installment Plan - Harold Pollack - POLITICO Magazine

 

[MaggieD]

Rejecting the Medicaid expansion could kill nearly 6,000 people each year. Can the Democrats exploit that in November?

Oh, stop it. Jesus. People who buy this crap make me nutz.

 

[Amazed]

The sky is falling.

This is the kind of thing that low information voters live for.

Tell me......why didn't they just run it all through the ACA?

 

[ttwtt78640]

No, but I really hope that they try to.

http://www.galen.org/topics/why-states-should-not-expand-medicaid/

 

[Paschendale]

How about instead of exploiting it and pointing fingers, we ****ing fix it?

 

[Amazed]

The initial 100% federal match rate for the expansion population is very tempting, but the match rate starts to decline in three years and falls to 90% by 2020.

Why States Should Not Expand Medicaid | Galen Institute

This will break the backs of the local tax payers.....it has always been an argument of Federal Dollars vs. State Dollars.

 

[calamity]

How about instead of exploiting it and pointing fingers, we ****ing fix it?

Because the result of playing nice and "fixing it" leads to the GOP cleaning the D's clock in November--"Remember Benghazeee!!!"--- and then everything will get that much worse.

 

[calamity]

Oh, stop it. Jesus. People who buy this crap make me nutz.

How about disproving the numbers instead of just whining about how you hate the subject.

 

[ttwtt78640]

The sky is falling.

This is the kind of thing that low information voters live for.

Tell me......why didn't they just run it all through the ACA?

That is a great question. Why is having reduced Medicare, increased Medicaid and PPACA (federal control of, and public subsidies for, "private" medical care insurance) "the best" idea?

 

[Amazed]

That is a great question. Why is having reduced Medicare, increased Medicaid and PPACA (federal control of, and public subsidies for, "private" medical care insurance) "the best" idea?

Fed/State Dollars...the more that the Feds can slough off to the States the "better" the numbers look for them.
When its all said and done it is still the tax payers getting hosed.

 

[Amazed]

Because the result of playing nice and "fixing it" leads to the GOP cleaning the D's clock in November--"Remember Benghazeee!!!"--- and then everything will get that much worse.

Expanding Medicaid would cost states an additional $118 billion through 2023, according to a recent congressional report.[8] The additional spending surely would crowd out funds for education, transportation, parks, public safety, and other vital state needs.

Those numbers will get your side clocked for decades .

 

[Paschendale]

Because the result of playing nice and "fixing it" leads to the GOP cleaning the D's clock in November--"Remember Benghazeee!!!"--- and then everything will get that much worse.

That's the problem the Democrats have. They seem to think that fixing things requires playing nice. It doesn't. Show the country that Democrats have ideas to solve the problems we face and Republicans have nothing but conspiracies and temper tantrums.

Of course, that's what the ACA was in the first place and people are still listening to the conspiracies and temper tantrums. Why are so many people in this country so dumb?

 

[TurtleDude]

That's the problem the Democrats have. They seem to think that fixing things requires playing nice. It doesn't. Show the country that Democrats have ideas to solve the problems we face and Republicans have nothing but conspiracies and temper tantrums.

Of course, that's what the ACA was in the first place and people are still listening to the conspiracies and temper tantrums. Why are so many people in this country so dumb?

socialism sounds great until you run out of other people's money

 

[Amazed]

socialism sounds great until you run out of other people's money

You should go ahead and link that to Margaret Thatcher.

 

[Amazed]

Charles Blahous, senior research fellow at the Mercatus Center at George Mason University, and Public Trustee for Social Security and Medicare, writes: “The latest CMS Medicaid report projects state Medicaid costs to grow by 158% cumulatively over the next decade, assuming all states opt for expansion.[9]

and......

Even relative to Medicaid’s troubled history of rapid cost growth, these projections point to a coming cost explosion. They embody substantially higher future growth rates than states faced during the last decade.Yet Medicaid already absorbs 24% of state budgets and is described by the bipartisan State Budget Crisis Task Force as ‘crowding out other needs.’”[10]

 

[calamity]

That's the problem the Democrats have. They seem to think that fixing things requires playing nice. It doesn't. Show the country that Democrats have ideas to solve the problems we face and Republicans have nothing but conspiracies and temper tantrums.

Of course, that's what the ACA was in the first place and people are still listening to the conspiracies and temper tantrums. Why are so many people in this country so dumb?

One reason I come here is to try to ascertain that. I think the GOP has a better means of coining one-line phrases than the D's, who usually have to account for nuance, which makes for less easy to convey campaign slogans.


Plus, the GOP has God on their side.

 

[Linc]

socialism sounds great until you run out of other people's money

ACA sounded good as a whipping boy until November until the polls went south.
Denying Medicaid Expansion has become the albatross around the GOP neck.
Your Gov. Kasich was too smart to make that mistake .

 

[Linc]

How about disproving the numbers instead of just whining about how you hate the subject.

Expect more mass protests led by clergy as we saw yesterday in Missouri with respect to Medicaid Expansion,
a huge factor in Senate elections in the southern states of Georgia, North Carolina, Louisiana, Arkansas, Kentucy and possibly Mississippi .

 

[Linc]

Proven numbers from Missouri show that their GOP Legislature, not the DEM governor, sits on the real "death" panel .

 

[calamity]

ACA sounded good as a whipping boy until November until the polls went south.
Denying Medicaid Expansion has become the albatross around the GOP neck.
Your Gov. Kasich was too smart to make that mistake .

He clearly knows how to read tea leaves. Besides, Ohio is not a pure Red state. Kaisch needs votes from Moderates and Centrists to win. Senator Brown proved that when he whipped the Tea Boy into submission last election.

 

[ttwtt78640]

How about disproving the numbers instead of just whining about how you hate the subject.

If these folks are not eligible for expanded Medicaid then they should be eligible for PPACA subsidies.

 

[Amazed]

Proven numbers from Missouri show that their GOP Legislature, not the DEM governor, sits on the real "death" panel .

Nope, actually the REAL DEATH panels are inhabited by Political Appointees that do not answer to anyone.

 

[calamity]

If these folks are not eligible for expanded Medicaid then they should be eligible for PPACA subsidies.

Nope. There is a huge coverage gap due to the minimum earning requirement for PPACA subsidies and the max for medicaid eligibility without expansion. Remember, the original law mandated states expand medicaid, but SCOTUS shot that down. As a result, governors in the most rabidly red states are not expanding coverage.


GOP Governors deny Madicaid Expansion, Thousands Die.

 

[Linc]

Nope, actually the REAL DEATH panels are inhabited by Political Appointees that do not answer to anyone.

Medicaid Expansion is a loser for the GOP, hence we hear nothing lately on ACA.
Ask Gov. Jindal how his ratings are, then think of Louisiana voters favoring ME and Sen. Landrieu running on ACA.

In Purple states like Ohio and Michigan, with GOP govs who've taken ME, they call it "Healthy Ohio". :lamo

 

[Amazed]

Nope. There is a huge coverage gap due to the minimum earning requirement for PPACA subsidies and the max for medicaid eligibility without expansion. Remember, the original law mandated states expand medicaid, but SCOTUS shot that down. As a result, governors in the most rabidly red states are not expanding coverage.


GOP Governors deny Madicaid Expansion, Thousands Die.

How quaint, it must be wonderful for you to blithely just ignore the numbers that explain how the expansion will destroy state budgets