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GOP loses SCOTUS bid to limit voting in PA

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I'm glad to hear that they didn't succeed in suppressing the vote in this case.
 
poweRob said:
Nice try... but extended voting in PA stays on. What a desperate move for the GOP to run to the SCOTUS again to try and bail them out in another election.

www.huffpost.com

Supreme Court Tie Blocks GOP Effort To Limit Mail-In Voting In Pennsylvania

The 4-4 vote among the justices means the state can still count ballots received after Election Day.
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Sounds like the SCOTUS just voted to not review it the decision.

Was there a point of law in the Pennsylvania statutes or constitution that was pertaining to this? Your article neglects to cite whatever point of law the case may have turned on at the State level.

From a federal point of view, the power of the states to control their own elections seems to be pretty clearly asserted.

Full Text of the U.S. Constitution | Constitution Center

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Section 4: Elections
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

The Congress shall assemble at least once in every Year, and such Meeting shall be on the first Monday in December, unless they shall by Law appoint a different Day.
 
Wait - I thought there was a radical right wing 5-3 majority?
 
This is going to cause the Senate to move up their confirmation date.
 
poweRob said:
Nice try... but extended voting in PA stays on. What a desperate move for the GOP to run to the SCOTUS again to try and bail them out in another election.

www.huffpost.com

Supreme Court Tie Blocks GOP Effort To Limit Mail-In Voting In Pennsylvania

The 4-4 vote among the justices means the state can still count ballots received after Election Day.
www.huffpost.com www.huffpost.com
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No stay is granted by the SC without a majority.

If this case was heard with Barrett on the bench, the Pennsylvania GOP stay request is granted.

Barrett will profoundly alter the SC and its decisions going forward, and perhaps even the 2020 presidential election.
 
poweRob said:
Nice try... but extended voting in PA stays on. What a desperate move for the GOP to run to the SCOTUS again to try and bail them out in another election.

www.huffpost.com

Supreme Court Tie Blocks GOP Effort To Limit Mail-In Voting In Pennsylvania

The 4-4 vote among the justices means the state can still count ballots received after Election Day.
www.huffpost.com www.huffpost.com
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This is one of many reasons I believe we are seeing the turnout we are, people are pissed at trump and his antics and the gop as a whole for their antics in trying to suppress the vote. It has come to the point the gop doesn't even try to conceal their dastardly deeds, now they just go to the courts to try to stop people from voting. Sad.
 
Helix said:
I'm glad to hear that they didn't succeed in suppressing the vote in this case.
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they try and then put their hand on a bible and swear they aren't trying.

sweet gig.
 
code1211 said:
Sounds like the SCOTUS just voted to not review it the decision.

Was there a point of law in the Pennsylvania statutes or constitution that was pertaining to this? Your article neglects to cite whatever point of law the case may have turned on at the State level.

From a federal point of view, the power of the states to control their own elections seems to be pretty clearly asserted.

Full Text of the U.S. Constitution | Constitution Center

Read and share the complete text of the United States Constitution.
constitutioncenter.org

Section 4: Elections
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

The Congress shall assemble at least once in every Year, and such Meeting shall be on the first Monday in December, unless they shall by Law appoint a different Day.
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Good of you to acknowledge that Trump butt boy, Barr, was properly shut down for attempting to overstep legal boundaries.
 
code1211 said:
Sounds like the SCOTUS just voted to not review it the decision.

Was there a point of law in the Pennsylvania statutes or constitution that was pertaining to this? Your article neglects to cite whatever point of law the case may have turned on at the State level.

From a federal point of view, the power of the states to control their own elections seems to be pretty clearly asserted.

Full Text of the U.S. Constitution | Constitution Center

Read and share the complete text of the United States Constitution.
constitutioncenter.org

Section 4: Elections
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

The Congress shall assemble at least once in every Year, and such Meeting shall be on the first Monday in December, unless they shall by Law appoint a different Day.
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The problem seems to be that there is a defined deadline in the law that mail-in ballots must be received by November 3rd. The PA Supreme Court granted the DNC’s request to extend that deadline to November 6th with or without a postmark - effectively legislating from the bench and potentially pushing Election Day out by up to three days from the Federal date.
 
Napoleon said:
The problem seems to be that there is a defined deadline in the law that mail-in ballots must be received by November 3rd. The PA Supreme Court granted the DNC’s request to extend that deadline to November 6th with or without a postmark - effectively legislating from the bench and pushing Election Day out by up to three days for mail-in ballots.
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When did the SCOTUS have the power to control a states voting procedures in this fashion? Four of them, all states righters and originalists btw, felt compelled to take over the PA election process.
 
Vadinho said:
When did the SCOTUS have the power to control a states voting procedures in this fashion? Four of them, all states righters and originalists btw, felt compelled to take over the PA election process.
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This is a separation of powers issue. Election law in PA says the deadline is November 3rd and only the legislature has legitimate authority to change it. The PA Supreme Court overstepped it’s authority in extending both the deadline established by the PA legislature and the Federally defined date for Election Day. SCOTUS merely declined to get involved in an internal State separation of powers dispute but I think Roberts erred by not considering the implications on the Federally defined Election Day. Only Congress has the power to define Election Day so the PA Supreme Court has no legitimate authority to allow ballots to be dropped off without a postmark and counted up to three days after the date defined by Congress.
 
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beefheart said:
How hard is it for some people to get their heads around the concept of counting every legal vote?
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This is about defining what a legal vote is. The PA legislature says, in law, that a legal vote is a mail-in ballot received by November 3rd. The PA Supreme Court says that a legal vote is a mail-in ballot with no postmark received by November 6th - 3 days after what State law says it is and 3 days after federally defined Election Day. You don’t see the issue?
 
Once again, the Democrats have used the federal court system to legislate erasing the US Constitution. The Constitution specifically states the last election day for president. But there is NOTHING the Democratic Party more hates than the US Constitution - other than the attached Bill Of Rights.
 
joko104 said:
Once again, the Democrats have used the federal court system to legislate erasing the US Constitution. The Constitution specifically states the last election day for president. But there is NOTHING the Democratic Party more hates than the US Constitution - other than the attached Bill Of Rights.
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Were there mail in ballots when the constitution was written?
 
Scrabaholic said:
Were there mail in ballots when the constitution was written?
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And that is Democratic Party logic. Because there weren't satellites in space when the Bill Of Rights and Constitution was written, then both should be replaced with Hitler's Mein Kampf policy goals - which is the platform of the new Corporate-Fascist Democratic Party run by the richest people and corporations on earth.
 
Hell, while we are at it, why not just extend the voting deadline until every person's vote is counted, in the entire country? I am sure someone's vote will not arrive until November 7.
 
Helix said:
I'm glad to hear that they didn't succeed in suppressing the vote in this case.
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I don’t think it’s about suppressing the vote, if ballots are not in by the election date they should be discarded. Voters have plenty of time to get their vote in and any votes after the date are bound to be deemed possibly tampered with.
 
beefheart said:
How hard is it for some people to get their heads around the concept of counting every legal vote?
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They have to push to keep the vote numbers down. Otherwise they don't win as many elections.
 
Roberts definitely is tainted, he sides with leftists on virtually all cases, word is he is an Epstein regular on the Lolita Express
 
HennyBogan said:
I don’t think it’s about suppressing the vote, if ballots are not in by the election date they should be discarded. Voters have plenty of time to get their vote in and any votes after the date are bound to be deemed possibly tampered with.
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The point is that these ballots would be delivered by election date and allowed to be counted up to 3 days afterwards. It's to allow for mail-in ballots that did reach the proper location in time for the election to be counted in the election.
 
Ikari said:
The point is that these ballots would be delivered by election date and allowed to be counted up to 3 days afterwards. It's to allow for mail-in ballots that did reach the proper location in time for the election to be counted in the election.
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Not from what ai read, they don’t need a valid postal date on them
 
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