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Good At Complaining, Bad At Governing

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Ed Driscoll » Barry Munchkin Syndrome

President Obama is a good campaigner. He won the big one twice and effectively made Republicans question their electoral existence. He also has shown once again, by not effectively managing his own agenda, that he has no appetite for governing.

Nothing proved that more than his approach to gun-control legislation.

Yes, he made lofty speeches, emotionally gripped the hands and shoulders of gun-crime victims, held dinners with Republicans and conservative Democrats whom he needed to pass a gun bill — all great theater, but great theater is rarely enough.

LBJ was on the phone for several hours every day with members of Congress. That was how, for good or ill, he got the Great Society passed. He knew before the first votes were taken who would vote for the Civil Rights act, and he did everything he could think of to grease the skids, working deals with every representative he needed.

Clinton was in touch with most of the Congress and shifted his agenda to align with something that Congress would support. Thus he was able to get a lot done. Again, he communicated with representatives constantly. The question was always, "What can you support? What can we agree on?" A big part of getting an item of one's agenda made into law is knowing which items have enough support!

Obama does almost exactly none of this. It really is something astonishing. On the occasions that he meets with representatives he uses it to complain to them and make demands if he even talks about the business of government at all.

Of course, LBJ had an easier time of it because Congressional power was more concentrated in the leadership in his day. But that does not explain why the President doesn't even try.

The approach of the community organizer is to gain support to complain about how things are and demand that they be changed. It was left to the people who have the power to decide how to do the changing. Here we have a President who is used to complaining and demanding that things change and doesn't seem to realize that the power to do the changing is in his own hands, power that he doesn't seem to know how to use.

Putting it another way, there's one thing the President knows how to do really well, and that's get himself elected. So he's been going around trying to solve problems by campaigning and campaigning and campaigning because he has no desire or ability to get down in the mud pit and wrestle with the problems of governance. It's not working.
 
You have no idea how Obama spends his day.
 
You have no idea how Obama spends his day.
Well, we do. Here's Obama's May 7, 2012 schedule as reported by American Thinker:10:00 a.m. The President receives the Presidential Daily Briefing.
11:00 a.m. The President meets with senior advisors.
2:30 p.m. The President holds a conference call with elected officials and student government leaders from across the country to discuss the need to prevent rates from doubling on July 1.


I'm semi-retired, and I do a hell of a lot more than that.
 
There's an alternative slogan for the right wing at this time:

Good at Complaining. Bad to coming up with good alternative solutions.
 
Well, we do. Here's Obama's May 7, 2012 schedule as reported by American Thinker:10:00 a.m. The President receives the Presidential Daily Briefing.
11:00 a.m. The President meets with senior advisors.
2:30 p.m. The President holds a conference call with elected officials and student government leaders from across the country to discuss the need to prevent rates from doubling on July 1.


I'm semi-retired, and I do a hell of a lot more than that.

Truth be known, most four-year-olds in Pre-school do more than that! Let's hope they don't start filing lawsuits, alleging age discrimination! :eek:
 
By his own admission, Boehner golfs 4 times as much.

That's because he's such a lousy shot. It takes a lot longer to finish the course shooting 290 as opposed to shooting a 72.

Maybe he should ask Obama to hook him up with Tiger for some pointers :)
 
I will be damned. Lowdown actually made a valid point criticizing Obama. The FAA has been alerted to instruct aircraft to be on collision alert for airborne pigs.
 
There's an alternative slogan for the right wing at this time:

Good at Complaining. Bad to coming up with good alternative solutions.

First a slogan should be grammitically correct.

Second why would the Republicans need to come up with alternative solutions for Obama not governing?
 
By his own admission, Boehner golfs 4 times as much.

So you are saying

Yes but.....

Why does it matter what somebody else does?

Why would you bring up Boehner when discussing the President?
 
You have no idea how Obama spends his day.

Given the state of the US economy I can get pretty close to describing Obama's average day.
 
You have no idea how Obama spends his day.

The white house puts out a schedule... so a good bit of it is known. But clearly after 4+ years of not appearing to give a crap about the economy or jobs, he's not concentrating on the right things.
 
The white house puts out a schedule... so a good bit of it is known. But clearly after 4+ years of not appearing to give a crap about the economy or jobs, he's not concentrating on the right things.

How many of those schedules have you read? How many had you read before viewing this thread?
 
How many of those schedules have you read? How many had you read before viewing this thread?

More diversion... seems to be 'the norm' from what I've seen recently.
 
Ed Driscoll » Barry Munchkin Syndrome



LBJ was on the phone for several hours every day with members of Congress. That was how, for good or ill, he got the Great Society passed. He knew before the first votes were taken who would vote for the Civil Rights act, and he did everything he could think of to grease the skids, working deals with every representative he needed.

Clinton was in touch with most of the Congress and shifted his agenda to align with something that Congress would support. Thus he was able to get a lot done. Again, he communicated with representatives constantly. The question was always, "What can you support? What can we agree on?" A big part of getting an item of one's agenda made into law is knowing which items have enough support!

Obama does almost exactly none of this. It really is something astonishing. On the occasions that he meets with representatives he uses it to complain to them and make demands if he even talks about the business of government at all.

Of course, LBJ had an easier time of it because Congressional power was more concentrated in the leadership in his day. But that does not explain why the President doesn't even try.

The approach of the community organizer is to gain support to complain about how things are and demand that they be changed. It was left to the people who have the power to decide how to do the changing. Here we have a President who is used to complaining and demanding that things change and doesn't seem to realize that the power to do the changing is in his own hands, power that he doesn't seem to know how to use.

Putting it another way, there's one thing the President knows how to do really well, and that's get himself elected. So he's been going around trying to solve problems by campaigning and campaigning and campaigning because he has no desire or ability to get down in the mud pit and wrestle with the problems of governance. It's not working.

The reason Congress isn't getting anything done is because of Libertarians, not Obama.
 
Ed Driscoll » Barry Munchkin Syndrome



LBJ was on the phone for several hours every day with members of Congress. That was how, for good or ill, he got the Great Society passed. He knew before the first votes were taken who would vote for the Civil Rights act, and he did everything he could think of to grease the skids, working deals with every representative he needed.

Clinton was in touch with most of the Congress and shifted his agenda to align with something that Congress would support. Thus he was able to get a lot done. Again, he communicated with representatives constantly. The question was always, "What can you support? What can we agree on?" A big part of getting an item of one's agenda made into law is knowing which items have enough support!

Obama does almost exactly none of this. It really is something astonishing. On the occasions that he meets with representatives he uses it to complain to them and make demands if he even talks about the business of government at all.

Of course, LBJ had an easier time of it because Congressional power was more concentrated in the leadership in his day. But that does not explain why the President doesn't even try.

The approach of the community organizer is to gain support to complain about how things are and demand that they be changed. It was left to the people who have the power to decide how to do the changing. Here we have a President who is used to complaining and demanding that things change and doesn't seem to realize that the power to do the changing is in his own hands, power that he doesn't seem to know how to use.

Putting it another way, there's one thing the President knows how to do really well, and that's get himself elected. So he's been going around trying to solve problems by campaigning and campaigning and campaigning because he has no desire or ability to get down in the mud pit and wrestle with the problems of governance. It's not working.

I agree with this. Another couple of examples of how some presidents corssed the aisle and made friends of member of the opposition party. Eisenhower had LBJ over to the White House at least 3 times a week to discuss how to get IKE's agenda through congress. LBJ was then Senate Majority Leader. JFK and LBJ both worked closely with Everitt Dirksen, then the republican minority leader in the senate. Nixon, Ford and Carter really didn't cross the asile to work with anyone, heck Jimmy couldn't even work with his own party shutting down government 4 times in all 4 years of his presidency. Everyone knows how Reagan and Tip O'Neal worked together. You mentioned Clinton already. Obama has done none of this.

But when he was first elected he had such huge majorities in both chambers he really didn't have to reach out to anyone. In fact it seemed he turned all domestic policies over to Reid and Polesi. Then 2010 happened, I think he is still trying to figure what went wrong and doesn't know how to extend the hand of friendship or even cooperation to the opposite party ala IKE, JFK, LBJ, Reagan etc.
 
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