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What are they?
What "rights" are "god given"?
Also, who are they given to? Is anyone left out from these rights?
Anyone who simply says: "Read the bible and you'll know" is just being lazy and not interested in debate/dialogue.
Hopefully most here will ignore those types of comments.
Life, Liberty and Estate
Life, Liberty and Estate
We humans are arrogant things.
What are they?
Life, Liberty and Estate
Whatever they are, they must be universal and equal for everyone.
All rights are God-given...He gives life...
An indivudal right whose authority supersedes that of the state.What are they?
There are lots. Rooted in the idea of personal agency. Where can others/government justly infringe on our natural ability to be an individual?What "rights" are "god given"?
In concept everyone. It was a new radical concept from very recent human history though, so obviously the norms of traditional privileges of families seem too important to just throw away -- but with time we've seen the transformation where now very few have serious violation of their god-given rights in the west. That said, such progress has been losing ground for years as 'identity-group-rights' are now growing and the concept of god-given individual rights fading.Also, who are they given to? Is anyone left out from these rights?
So if rights are given by God why did it take Christianity sooooo long to figure that out? Truth is, if you if you want to thank some one for your rights, don't thank a Christian, go thank that Baphomet worshiping Freemason over there.
Someone might say that it is you who is being lazy and uninterested in debate/dialogue, if you refuse to read the Bible, but insist on arguing, with those who believe in it, about what they believe.Anyone who simply says: "Read the bible and you'll know" is just being lazy and not interested in debate/dialogue.
I agree. Very important criteria.
Someone might say that it is you who is being lazy and uninterested in debate/dialogue, if you refuse to read the Bible, but insist on arguing, with those who believe in it, about what they believe.
What about a right to distribute porn, for instance — would you call that God-given?All rights are God-given...He gives life...
All rights are God-given...He gives life...
Here’s one more item for you, the last in our civics book: Rights. Boy, everyone in this country is always running around yammering about their ****ing rights. I have a right, you have no right, we have a right, they don’t have a right… Folks, I hate to spoil your fun but-there’s no such thing as rights, okay? They’re imaginary. We made them up! Like the Boogie Man… the Three Little Pigs, Pinocchio, Mother Goose, **** like that. Rights are an idea, they’re just imaginary, they are a cute idea, cute… but that’s all, cute, and fictional. But if you think you do have rights, let me ask you this, where do they come from? People say, well, they come from God, they’re God-given rights… Aw xxxx, here we go again… here we go again. [laughing] The God excuse. The last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument, it came from God. Anything we can’t describe, must have come from God.
Personally, folks, I believe that if your rights came from God, he would have given you the right to have some food every day, and he would have given you the right to a roof over your head, God would have been looking out for you. [applause] God would have been looking out for you. [applause] You know that? He wouldn’t have been worrying about making sure you have a gun so you can get drunk on Sunday night and kill your girlfriend’s parents.
My comment was meant to be general to anyone who wants to argue against any scripture, but can't imagine reading it. However, I highly doubt he's read the Bible. The chances are low.:shrug:Who said he didn't read the bible?
My comment was meant to be general to anyone who wants to argue against any scripture, but can't imagine reading it. However, I highly doubt he's read the Bible. The chances are low.:shrug:
If I said I reject the theory of evolution, would your acceptance of the validity of my judgment depend on whether I studied about evolution or not? Or would you just dismiss me as a fool because you've already made up your own mind and mine differs? Are you sure you're not just compulsively trying to count more and more people as being on your side to make you feel more secure?I wouldn't bet on that.
I find that many atheists know the bible better than many Christians. I don't know about Dragonfly, but a number of ex-CHristians told me they lost their faith because they read the bible.
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