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Go-go Machine Guns in Europe

Lafayette

Lafayette

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From here: Giffords Law Center

MACHINE GUNS​

Machine guns are fully automatic firearms that continue to fire bullets as long as the trigger is depressed and ammunition is available. This continuous-fire feature makes machine guns hazardous to the general public and appropriate for use only by the military.
Federal law prohibits the possession of newly manufactured machine guns, but permits the transfer of machine guns lawfully owned prior to May 19, 1986, if the transfer is approved by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives. As a result, a substantial number of machine guns are still in circulation. As of 2020, the national registry of machine guns contained registrations for 726,951 machine guns.
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Uncle Sam is the capital of Machine Guns. Want one? Go to the US - they are for sale!

Wanna see the "machine-gun site" where they are sold. Here it is: Gun Broker

Typical gun-for-sale: Auto Ordnance Thompson US Model 1928 AC Fully Transferable Sub Machine Gun

Starting Bid: $31,249.00

Wow! WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR ???????????

Buy a machine-gun! Then go kill somebody! Anybody! Great fun! Really Great Fun!

Gun deaths in Europe:
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Far lower than the US, but gun-deaths are still extant ... !
 
That Thompson 1928 AC is WAY overpriced.

It IS in Very Good cosmetic condition, (except the 50 round mag looks really worn - - probably from a different gun) but that gun should be selling between $16k and $19k . . . NOT $32k.

IMO of course.

Here is a $32k machine gun:
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SkyChief said:
That Thompson 1928 AC is WAY overpriced.

It IS in Very Good cosmetic condition, (except the 50 round mag looks really worn - - probably from a different gun) but that gun should be selling between $16k and $19k . . . NOT $32k.

IMO of course.

Here is a $32k machine gun:
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It's not a play-thing for 65-yearold children.

It's an effing machine-gun and your response shows how lax Americans are about machine-guns. They should ALL be in a museum and NOT IN PUBLIC HANDS ... !

In this latest to hit the listing: MASS SHOOTINGS IN 2022

PS: It's a lonnnngggggg list! Have a look and get a tiny-tiny notion of the world in which you live and risk your lives because of guns-guns-guns ...
 
From the Pew Research Center: What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S.
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Excerpt:

More Americans died of gun-related injuries in 2020 than in any other year on record, according to recently published statistics from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). That included a record number of gun murders, as well as a near-record number of gun suicides. Despite the increase in such fatalities, the rate of gun deaths – a statistic that accounts for the nation’s growing population – remains below the levels of earlier years.

Here’s a closer look at gun deaths in the United States, based on a Pew Research Center analysis of data from the CDC, the FBI and other sources. You can also read key public opinion findings about U.S. gun violence and gun policy in our recent roundup.
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Enjoy your guns, America!

Their real cost is in lives ...
 
SkyChief said:
That Thompson 1928 AC is WAY overpriced.

It IS in Very Good cosmetic condition, (except the 50 round mag looks really worn - - probably from a different gun) but that gun should be selling between $16k and $19k . . . NOT $32k.

IMO of course.

Here is a $32k machine gun:
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Depending on the caliber, it can be considerably cheaper. A brand new M-249S SAW, for example, retails between $8,000 and $9,000. While a Browning M-2 could easily range between $ 27,500 and $ 42,500.
 
Lafayette said:
It's not a play-thing for 65-yearold children.

It's an effing machine-gun and your response shows how lax Americans are about machine-guns. They should ALL be in a museum and NOT IN PUBLIC HANDS ... !

In this latest to hit the listing: MASS SHOOTINGS IN 2022

PS: It's a lonnnngggggg list! Have a look and get a tiny-tiny notion of the world in which you live and risk your lives because of guns-guns-guns ...
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Gun broker is merely a listing website, a firearm sold on gunbroker has to be transferred through a licensed dealer. In the case of the Thompson, a transferable machine gun means a machine gun that was registered prior to 1986 under the NFA and which requires an extensive process to acquire.

Since the passage of the NFA in 1934 there has been only one, read that again, ONLY ONE recorded murder with an NFA registered machine gun.

I don’t know why the sale of highly regulated collectibles in America concerns you so much, and you’re writing in an irrational manner about things you know almost nothing about.
 
Lafayette said:
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Enjoy your guns, America!

Their real cost is in lives ...
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Mass shootings, despite media prominence, are very rare events, most shootings are suicides (which you Europeans make freely available from the doctor for any reason) followed by shootings of criminals by other criminals. Mass shootings are less common then drownings.
 
I always wonder why these leftists from Canada and France and England and New Zealand are so freakin worried about the US. Worry about your own miserable little country’s (miserable big country for Canada) we don’t need you trying to influence us anymore. if I want to own a Thompson then that beautiful constitution thing says I can go out and buy a Thompson. If you do t want one then dont buy one
 
Fearandloathing said:
Soon I suspect
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Nahhh - the older models are too heavy/bulky.

By the time you've got them out of the car, set them down and re-erected them in public, a hundred people would have seen and reported you to the police. They were and still are BigMachines.

Of course, the really-great-idiots may try. What they want most is the public-attention to light-up their lives. Then they spend the rest of their lives behind bars wondering what-in-hell possessed them to be sooooooo effing-stooopid ....
 
Lafayette said:
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Enjoy your guns, America!

Their real cost is in lives ...
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There hasn't been but a single homicide with a legally owned machine gun since 1934.
 
Lafayette said:
Nahhh - the older models are too heavy/bulky.

By the time you've got them out of the car, set them down and re-erected them in public, a hundred people would have seen and reported you to the police. They were and still are BigMachines.

Of course, the really-great-idiots may try. What they want most is the public-attention to light-up their lives. Then they spend the rest of their lives behind bars wondering what-in-hell possessed them to be sooooooo effing-stooopid ....
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Pretty sure mounting a machine gun and firing it from the back of a van wouldn't be too difficult.
 
Lafayette said:
Then that is how they will die as well ...
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As I recall, the last mass shooting by someone using automatic weapons in a western democracy happened in...France.
 
Rucker61 said:
Pretty sure mounting a machine gun and firing it from the back of a van wouldn't be too difficult.
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Pretty sure carrying an M60 and firing it from the hip, isn't all that difficult. I've done it many times. I don't have any experience with the SAW,but seems it would be even easier with that.
 
Rucker61 said:
Pretty sure mounting a machine gun and firing it from the back of a van wouldn't be too difficult.
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If you knew how to do it.

How many people know how to mount a WW2 machine-gun in pieces? Not many ...
 
Rucker61 said:
There hasn't been but a single homicide with a legally owned machine gun since 1934.
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Oh, wow! Wow! Wow! Sooooo impressive an argument!

From Pew Research here: What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S.

Are guns a leading cause of death in America?

More Americans died of gun-related injuries in 2020 than in any other year on record, according to recently published statistics from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). That included a record number of gun murders, as well as a near-record number of gun suicides. (Feb 3, 2022)
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Lafayette said:
If you knew how to do it.

How many people know how to mount a WW2 machine-gun in pieces? Not many ...
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I don't really know what led to this esoteric line of inquiry, but are you speaking of a specific WW2 machine gun?

In the case of Browning machine guns of that era (and even later), not many people would probably know how to set the headspace and timing. But a lawful owner probably would.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Since the passage of the NFA in 1934 there has been only one, read that again, ONLY ONE recorded murder with an NFA registered machine gun.
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My god. Stop the presses. GUN CONTROL WORKS!!!!! You just have to actually utilize it!!
 
PeacefulWarrior said:
My god. Stop the presses. GUN CONTROL WORKS!!!!! You just have to actually utilize it!!
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The restrictions in NFA 1934 for any current classes of firearms not currently restricted by NFA 1934 would be unconstitutional. How many times must this be repeated?

EDIT: murders with illegal machine guns still happen.
 
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