Gloomy landscape for Democrats in midterms as Biden's approval drops to 38% in USA TODAY/Suffolk poll

[Lycanthrope]

Were there disappointments this past year?

Yes. Afghanistan in particular was going to be ugly no matter what but the Biden Administration did no one any favors.

Are they enough to make me wish I'd voted for Trump?

Good God no.

I still don't expect Biden to be much more than a one term placeholder POTUS -removing Trump was the #1 goal. That said, Biden's party is clearly struggling and as a placeholder he is ill equipped to lead their fractured mess into something resembling a unified front. Democrats are definitely flirting with disaster, and need to show competent leadership/real accomplishment if they hope to avoid a midterm wipeout. We'll see if they are capable.

GOP remains a Trumpist shit show. The people are left with few options.

 

[Demon]

538 Assigns weighting to polls, its not a true average.

How We’re Tracking Joe Biden’s Approval Rating

If it’s possible to sum up a presidency in a single number, that number would be the president’s approval rating — or the share of Americans who approve of the …

fivethirtyeight.com

Read the whole thing, its demonstrates how Nate Silver keeps his thumb on the scale.

And it says they use the same method they did for Trump's approval rating.

 

[gbg3]

Fortunately the mental decline is irrelevant since his mysterious and unnamed "handlers" are actually running the show, right?

I certainly believe others are running the show but, as president, Biden has no choice but to be the face of the show and, my gosh, just trying to read and answer a rare question makes his mental decline glaringly obvious - and likely sends his handlers scrambling to clean up his messes.

 

[Demon]

the recent job's report was good, but that's about it. The labour participation rate is still the same, and there's still a "great resignation" going on, union protests, etc. Truly, the last 10 months have been a dumpster fire, but I'm very happy that big corporations have been able to make money!

The lower unemployment rate is still good. And the stock market.

 

[trixare4kids]

Fortunately the mental decline is irrelevant since his mysterious and unnamed "handlers" are actually running the show, right?

No, it's not irrelevant but if you think so, carry on ...

 

[gbg3]

I don't believe for one minute most liberals on this forum, or for that matter liberals in general, would agree that Biden is struggling with cognitive issues . That is total BS started by the RW media at the beginning of his Presidency when they had nothing else to throw at him. Even Republican politicians don't throw that crap at him.

You keep saying this but I never see too many quoting your comments to talk about how they share your opinion and/or give their similar opinion. I think you are in a clear minority
We'll see if this comment prompts a bunch of DP liberals to step in, support your view, and say the don't think Biden is struggling with cognitive issues. Frankly, I'm looking forward to seeing who does and what they have to say on the topic.

 

[trixare4kids]

The lower unemployment rate is still good. And the stock market.

We had all that under Trump at least until the pandemic hit.. What's your point?

Inflation is cutting into the paychecks of Americans under Biden. You haven't noticed?

 

[trixare4kids]

You keep saying this but I never see too many quoting your comments to talk about how they share your opinion and/or give their similar opinion. I think you are in a clear minority
We'll see if this comment prompts a bunch of DP liberals to step in, support your view, and say the don't think Biden is struggling with cognitive issues. Frankly, I'm looking forward to seeing who does and what they have to say on the topic.

Shall I go put the coffee on while we wait?

 

[OpportunityCost]

And it says they use the same method they did for Trump's approval rating.

Which is why I don't use it. I'm not interested in double weighted polls because Nate Silver wants to get more website hits by demonstrating his bias.

 

[vegas giants]

All that tells me is that promises are continuously made, yet not kept.

Welcome to politics

 

[Demon]

Which is why I don't use it. I'm not interested in double weighted polls because Nate Silver wants to get more website hits by demonstrating his bias.

I like the consistency though, and for the most part, 538's polling is pretty good.

 

[OrphanSlug]

I asked you a question. Clearly you can't answer it so you are playing this game.

You want to be dishonest about things in order to play this stupid game then ok we are done here.

I have already said I was not talking about anything covid related, you think otherwise, get to where you think I was or admit you have been intentionally misleading in this thread.

 

[OpportunityCost]

I like the consistency though, and for the most part, 538's polling is pretty good.

? 538 takes already existing polls and weights their relevance through means he determines, it is entirely as consistent as doing an unweighted aggregate would be.

Nate Silver is doing it to make his site slightly different driving more traffic through his slight bias and unique take.

 

[Callen]

You keep saying this but I never see too many quoting your comments to talk about how they share your opinion and/or give their similar opinion. I think you are in a clear minority

I know it is something you often do........ but writing a post that says nothing more than " Wow do I agree" or words to that effect, may not be what most consider as adding to the conversation especially when "the mental decline" comments are usually thrown into a thread with a specific topic other than Biden's mental capacity. I guess if you really cared you could always start a thread asking liberals if the think Biden is in serious mental decline. Hijacking this one doesn't seem appropriate.

 

[Demon]

? 538 takes already existing polls and weights their relevance through means he determines, it is entirely as consistent as doing an unweighted aggregate would be.

Nate Silver is doing it to make his site slightly different driving more traffic through his slight bias and unique take.

I'm not going to pretend I know much about weighing & aggregates and how its all done. I've never read up on all that. I trust 538 because their polling/reporting of the polls has always been pretty close to the end results of elections.

 

[OpportunityCost]

I'm not going to pretend I know much about weighing & aggregates and how its all done. I've never read up on all that. I trust 538 because their polling/reporting of the polls has always been pretty close to the end results of elections.

I actually posted a link to how they conduct the weighting.

 

[Demon]

I actually posted a link to how they conduct the weighting.

I know, and I do appreciate it. I haven't read it yet, but I will.

 

[OpportunityCost]

I know, and I do appreciate it. I haven't read it yet, but I will.

I just look at it as a gimmick and message control. My feeling is it taints his neutrality. Personal feeling, I don't think anyone needs to share that judgment.

 

[gbg3]

I know it is something you often do........ but writing a post that says nothing more than " Wow do I agree" or words to that effect, may not be what most consider as adding to the conversation especially when "the mental decline" comments are usually thrown into a thread with a specific topic other than Biden's mental capacity. I guess if you really cared you could always start a thread asking liberals if the think Biden is in serious mental decline. Hijacking this one doesn't seem appropriate.

Lol! I'd say a thread (started by me, by the way - no "Hijacking" underway) discussing a 38% approval poll for Biden is a fine place and a very appropriate place to discuss his deteriorating mental state. I sure think practically everyone (left and right), except you and very few others, see Biden's glaring mental decline.
But, you know how these debate forums go. When one side makes a statement that someone from the other side (you, in this case) disagrees with or argues, others frequently flock in to support the person disagreeing - that is, if they feel the same way. I am looking forward to hearing from others who think Biden is not suffering from mental decline. Even if that doesn't happen, I do fully expect you will just keep saying he is not in decline
My opinion is Biden's mental decline is so very obvious and so clearly contributes to everything he says and does - that any thread about Biden is an appropriate place to discuss how much it impacts his performance as well as how it impacts how he is viewed and rated in polls.

 

[gbg3]

I'm not a fan of the 538 adjustments. I prefer the unadjusted RCP averages. Today, I think they both come in at 42.8 for Biden approval. But they certainly don't always agree.

 

[Demon]

I just look at it as a gimmick and message control. My feeling is it taints his neutrality. Personal feeling, I don't think anyone needs to share that judgment.

I get that. For me, I don't care so much how he gets there, but his end results have usually been pretty darn good. I'll still read the article.

 

[Demon]

I'm not a fan of the 538 adjustments. I prefer the unadjusted RCP averages. Today, I think they both come in at 42.8 for Biden approval. But they certainly don't always agree.

I look at those, too. But mostly for election polling. I don't really watch polls until then.

 

[bomberfox]

"America tired of energetic government improving their lives, seeks return to corrupt lethargy."

This America wouldnt make it through the depression. “ i got a right to mah daily big mac freeberty!”

 

[JMB802]

New poll out today

We don't have to concern ourselves with Trump's repeated lying, willful ignorance about national crises, bullying, teenage social media behavior, and his corrupt and incompetent appointees.

The DOW is at record highs. 5 Million jobs have come back. The unemployment rate is 4.8%. 200 Million vaccinations were given in 10 months. A huge bipartisan infrastructure bill was just passed.

Not gloomy. At all.

 

[bomberfox]

Why do people continue to hold Joe Biden personally responsible? He doesn't even know where he is half the time, can't even hold his bowel movements, and can't string together a simple phrase that makes sense. He is just the face of the US government and nothing else. Same for Harris. These low poll numbers describe america's dissatisfaction with how the swamp is running the country. Pure and Simple. If you don't like how the swamp runs things, then drain the swamp. Good luck with that.

Is this where you try to talk out of both sides of your ass?.. its not convincing.