''The UN Secretariat has repeatedly emphasized the proven benefits of having more female peacekeepers, especially in regions where sexual violence has been or still is a serious problem, but there are hiccups.
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A lot of member states are beginning to understand that when it comes to peacekeeping missions, you really do need to have both women and men in the military and police equally represented ''
Quote from IRIN Global | GLOBAL: Women UN peacekeepers - more needed* | Asia East Africa Global Great Lakes Horn of Africa Latin America and Caribbean Middle East Southern Africa West Africa | Afghanistan Angola Bangladesh Burkina Faso Burundi Benin Botswana DR
Is it pure sexism, which is creating the shortage of female peace keepers, despite the advantages to having more female peace keepers? Or is being a peace keeper not an attractive option to women?
Men have the capacity for a higher maximum muscle mass (total strength) then women.Perhaps the reason there are more male peace keepers is because males are physically stronger than females. And since males are generally physically stronger than females they are most likely to be able to pass all the physical requirements their nations military may have. Being a soldier or marine requires more than someone just giving you a weapon and pointing you at a target.
Men have the capacity for a higher maximum muscle mass (total strength) then women.
Women tend to have stronger heart muscles and have higher maximum endurance levels.
If you have a man and woman at the same physical level for their bodies lift the same max weight then the man will likely win. If you have the same individuals run long distance or an agility course then the woman will most likely win.
In terms of combat training and carrying gear, women could most likely carry the same gear as a man for a longer period of time without fatiguing but are limited on how much they can carry.
If you have the same individuals run long distance or an agility course then the woman will most likely win.
Quite right. Muscles and endurance are peacekeeping necessities...Being a soldier or marine requires more than someone just giving you a weapon and pointing you at a target.
10k mens WR -27:01
half marathon WR Mens-58:23
full marathon WR Mens -2:03:59
Men's 3000M steeple chase WR- 7:53:63
10K womens WR -30:21
half marathon WR women- 1:06:25
full marathon womens WR- 2:15:25
3000m womens steeplechase WR- 8:58:81
This is just a few.....
List of world records in athletics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Sure Paula Radcliffe would kick my ass at a marathon, 10K whatever. But in a side by side comparison of people in a similar physical condition that train for the same events, it is clear that males hold an edge in endurance as well.
The only area where I would agree that women enjoy a physical advantage-generally sex wide- over their male counter parts is flexibility.
Quite right. Muscles and endurance are peacekeeping necessities...
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Perhaps the reason there are more male peace keepers is because males are physically stronger than females. And since males are generally physically stronger than females they are most likely to be able to pass all the physical requirements their nations military may have. Being a soldier or marine requires more than someone just giving you a weapon and pointing you at a target.
Obviously there are other requirements besides physical strength. Otherwise,the UN would not be asking for more female peace keepers.
I can see what the UN mean by the presence of female soldiers being comforting to women who have been victims of sexual violence. More male only soldiers appearing on the scene likely make them nervous, because they would be unsure if these are good or bad. They likely have problems with trusting any male strangers, after the experiences some of them went through.
Obviously there are other requirements besides physical strength. Otherwise,the UN would not be asking for more female peace keepers.
I can see what the UN mean by the presence of female soldiers being comforting to women who have been victims of sexual violence. More male only soldiers appearing on the scene likely make them nervous, because they would be unsure if these are good or bad. They likely have problems with trusting any male strangers, after the experiences some of them went through.
I have to wonder what military experience those who are asking for more females have.
Hardly fitting that they're getting all gender specific.
Good post, and thanks for the stats.
I wanted to note that I'm not saying there isn't a place for women in the military, or even in combat roles. The differences in the stats WI posted were modest differences; women at the highest peak of physical conditioning can get very close to performance levels of men at the highest peak of physical conditioning, in almost everything except upper body strength.
I have no objection to women in the military, ....
In fact you'd be hard pressed to have a lower opinion of the UN as a whole than I do.
I think, it is ridiculous to judge the UN as a whole, based on what the worst members(who are in the vast minority) do . As well as that, I think the UN investigates all reports of crimes done by its members.
I base my inexpressable loathing for the UN on nearly four decades of observing their corruption, incompetence, and inability to cope with the fact that a third of their membership come from nations whose governments are scum.
Actually I was wondering if the people who are asking for more female UN peace keepers have any actual military experience themselves. Who are these people making these requests? Are they Generals, senior enlisted or are they some suits with little or no military experience trying to push some pc gender equality agenda nonsense?I dont know what experience they are asking for, but the UN state some important reasons in my opinion for the presence of female peacekeepers in certain troubled countries.
As for peace keeping roles women already fulfill, they seem to be doing most of the work where clearing old landmines in certain countries is involved. Apparently, they are more careful, reliable and thorough than men are with it.
But, I think before all this starts, it is very important that the UN recognise whatever role women take on as peacekeepers, as important as what men do, and it be reflected in their wages Otherwise, we are back at the same old gender bullsh*t again, which is far from peaceful, and far from supportive of women doing what women do best, rather than being pressured to do what men do better.
Actually I was wondering if the people who are asking for more female UN peace keepers have any actual military experience themselves. Who are these people making these requests? Are they Generals, senior enlisted or are they some suits with little or no military experience trying to push some pc gender equality agenda nonsense?
Read the news blog in the opening post. It explains it. Then maybe it can be discussed properly, rather than just a thread full of the barage by the usual hoard who reply on threads concerning womens issues, to push some pc gender inequality agenda nonsense.
It is very discouraging, if all threads on womens issues are going to be at this level. Surely, decades of this type of discussion between the genders would be enough to show what a stalemate it is.
I have no problem with women in the military ...
How is wanting equal standards in the armed forces is a negative thing? Perhaps if better standards were use something like in this picture would have not happened.Now that I give it even more thought, this thread is liklely and good sampling of the types of attitudes which are causing a shortage of female candidates to become peace keepers from the armies of the various countries.
How is wanting equal standards in the armed forces is a negative thing?
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