The point is that it's not irony when
something bad happens to someone who holds a position you to disagree with. This is not irony any more than it would be ironic if a climate change denier got a sunburn. You can be a climate change denier and still believe in the sun, much in the same way as those who accept climate change can still believe in very cold weather.
Irony requires a twist; ie when an effect is realized because of actions taken to avoid it. It would be ironic if they people on the ice breaker didn't believe in ice, and then became trapped in what they didn't believe in. It's ironic when people try to use a weather event as evidence for a climatic argument; because the only thing it proves is the ignorance of the one making the argument.
If those who perpetuated the false narrative of AGW didn't use computer generated polar bears stranded on floating Ice Packs because of melting polar ice you might have a point.
But the fact that we were told polar ice caps were disaplearing at an alarming rate DUE TO AGW and that the Liberal Democrats could save us, (for a price of course ) makes it ironic that explorers looking for "evidence" of global warming became trapped by growing sea ice.
You know, why did they even board that boat ? The Pro AGW crowd never needed objective proof before.
The leader of a scientific expedition whose ship remains stranded in Antarctic ice says the team, which set out to prove climate change, is "stuck in our own experiment."
But Chris Turney, a professor of climate change at Australia’s University of New South Wales, said it was “silly” to suggest he and 73 others aboard the MV Akademic Shokalskiy were trapped in ice they’d sought to prove had melted. He remained adamant that sea ice is melting, even as the boat remained trapped in frozen seas.
'Stuck in our own experiment': Leader of trapped team insists polar ice is melting | Fox News
Newsflash! global warming and temporary expansion of ice shelves may not be mutually exclusive Winter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Newsflash! global warming and temporary expansion of ice shelves may not be mutually exclusive Winter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
sounds like communism
Global warming activists still trapped by inconvenient ice
- TIM BLAIR
- THE DAILY TELEGRAPH
- JANUARY 01, 2014 12:00AM
PASSENGERS WON'T SEE LAND FOR WEEKS1:43
Passengers stranded on a scientific expedition ship off Antarctica will soon be airlifted off the vessel.
No Cookies | thetelegraph.com.au
Talk about breaking news, it's dated tomorrow. Anyway, anybody else see humor in this?
Ah, don't worry. This won't deter them. They claim this is weather. Far different from climate, which is absolutely disastrous. We're idiots, who can't tell the difference. What I'm wondering is at what point do these "smart people" go outside and read the thermometer?....... "It doesn't matter what that thing says, we're warming damnit. Warming. And if you don't believe it, I have 15 models from the computer I programmed to prove it. Yer just a denier. And probably believe in creationism to boot. I'm getting that pain behind my eyes that I usually get when I have to explain this **** to idiots with no education at all."
Global Warming will save them, don't worry.
Ah, don't worry. This won't deter them. They claim this is weather. Far different from climate, which is absolutely disastrous. We're idiots, who can't tell the difference. What I'm wondering is at what point do these "smart people" go outside and read the thermometer?....... "It doesn't matter what that thing says, we're warming damnit. Warming. And if you don't believe it, I have 15 models from the computer I programmed to prove it. Yer just a denier. And probably believe in creationism to boot. I'm getting that pain behind my eyes that I usually get when I have to explain this **** to idiots with no education at all."
All right! all right! I like humbolt! :mrgreen:
They went from "science" to politics so fast Einstein would be amazed. And they wonder why people might have some doubt and a few questions....All right! all right! I like humbolt! :mrgreen:
I was prescient. Who knew they'd all get stuck? Not to worry. It's just the weather. It's not the climate. The sun plays a marginal role. It's a man-caused disaster....if they hadn't gone, they wouldn't have gotten stuck. Plant more trees.Should happen any day now. Maybe we should send more ships just to see how many can get stuck. If they keep records on this, the trip could set some kind of record after all. I'd wait on the helicopters a while.
Ah, don't worry. This won't deter them. They claim this is weather. Far different from climate, which is absolutely disastrous. We're idiots, who can't tell the difference. What I'm wondering is at what point do these "smart people" go outside and read the thermometer?....... "It doesn't matter what that thing says, we're warming damnit. Warming. And if you don't believe it, I have 15 models from the computer I programmed to prove it. Yer just a denier. And probably believe in creationism to boot. I'm getting that pain behind my eyes that I usually get when I have to explain this **** to idiots with no education at all."
They went there expecting climate but all they got was weather.I hate it when that happens. The truth is that water boils at 212 degrees fahrenheit (depending on atmospheric pressure). A nuclear detonation can occur under well defined circumstances which are completely predictable. The warmists have no such certainty with any of their predictions, and literally billions are dependent on the accuracy of their predictions if they would have us believe their "science". I have yet to receive a response from any of them, not just here, but anywhere, to this: 'Botch after botch after botch' | Columnists | Opinion | Toronto Sun
This is the basis for all the predictions from the warmists, NOAH, IPCC, NASA, and a host of other agencies of record who placed their faith in the credibility of this data. As can be seen, their faith was misplaced. I'm anxiously awaiting an explanation, or at the very least, a whole new set of data that confirms their original hypothesis. I haven't seen it of yet. Maybe some poster here can offer an explanation and a completely new set of data that verifies the original assertion. They could be correct, but I haven't seen any data that confirms it. Based on what I've seen, if they're correct, it's an accident that has nothing to do with what they've offered so far. If the CO2 is buried in the ocean, then they should prove it. Proof is not too much to ask when billions of lives depend on it.
Global Warming will save them, don't worry.
I don't claim to be an expert but I've been forecasting April as the start of global warming in the Northern Hemisphere for years now. The Farmer's Almanac is my most trustworthy source.
Speaking of the Euro model, has anyone else noticed now that when the weather channel does their extended forecasts for certain storms they have the U.S. model followed by the Euro model and they are different on every occasion I have seen this. I haven't given this any thought or I would tune in a few day later to see which model got it right. I will have to start paying more attention to it.
All the models have biases in them. We had a little book next to our work station when plotting out forecasts that denoted which model did what with what kinda system historically (ya know, built in bias!). When you know that, you adjust your forecast. Most forecasts from smart meteorologist blend the two. It's generally the safe bet. At least more then three days out that is.
climate changes none of us have seen in our lives---burrrr
Global warming activists still trapped by inconvenient ice
- TIM BLAIR
- THE DAILY TELEGRAPH
- JANUARY 01, 2014 12:00AM
PASSENGERS WON'T SEE LAND FOR WEEKS1:43
Passengers stranded on a scientific expedition ship off Antarctica will soon be airlifted off the vessel.
No Cookies | thetelegraph.com.au
Talk about breaking news, it's dated tomorrow. Anyway, anybody else see humor in this?
It is suppose to get down to 6 degrees tonight and that is south of Atlanta. Burrrr my butt. You know something is wrong when the low in Fairbanks AK is 7 degrees and Georgia is below that. This has to be a pinko communist plot done by the weather channel in order to tip the world over or something like that. I want my global warming and I want it NOW!
Once you get global warming/climate change to affect the gulfstream, you'll get another little ice age.
Coincidental how this little ice age helped end the bubonic plague huh.
Karma/fate/what do the land of smiles folks call it?
Then there's the "weather changing" conspiracy folks who I see on the Military Channel.
A square field of transformers in Alaska that emits its own aurora borealis as well as creates its own clouds .
The humor in all this is watching people deny climate change using the appearance of winter as some kind of reasoning.
Except...it's summer there. :lol:
It rarely gets below 70 in the LOS although temps in the upper 50's are know to happen every so many years. I am about ready to say to heck with the house and board a plane tomorrow for the LOS. Would you believe a wind chill of minus 10? This is ridiculous.
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