If there were any evidence, you'd be right. The only hard evidence is isolated incidents of people cheating in favor of Trump. The rest is speculation.
True, his provoking comment ..the one he used to inflame the crowd before the insurrection "trial by combat" excludes Rudy as an attorney, could be a witness however. His license to be an lawyer should be revoked, he's a ridiculous joke, unfit.
This is what I mean by speculation. There is no evidence that any of this actually happened.
No evidence of widespread fraud which could materially alter the election result. You can speculate as much as you like, but without hard evidence for a court to hear you're going nowhere, fast-as Giuliani discovered. Did you know that the far-right Heritage Foundation found just 1300 examples of fraud and attempted fraud since 1982? I'd love to know where Trump got his "millions" of fraudulent ballots figure.
Are you kidding? They avoid the topic like the plague - denying any fraudulent voting, bad practices, or wrongdoing. Likely because the most of the questionable practices were being conducted by democrats. There's probably also an element of satisfaction with the outcome, and a feeling that if they admit to issues that will somehow jeopardize that.
...and lack of evidence. If you're taking a case to court you better make certain you're prepared. 60+ cases tossed by the courts should tell you something.
When you present speculation instead of facts, people will dismiss you, and rightly so. Whining about it only makes it worse.
We're not dealing with reality here, Trump deals in conspiracy theories and his lame brain miscreant followers lap it all up. So sad for our country.
He just needs to show enough that fraud/wrongdoing occurred - enough to raise doubts, or at least make people say, "Yes, there were some issues that should be looked into". "Widespread" is a bit of a moving goalpost for the left. Just remember - Democrats opened the door to this, and they didn't have to.
dcsports is playing the "what If" game. "If votes were inserted........". At this point the votes were either inserted or they were not. The lack of links to links dcsports uses is generally lacking even when asked to provide them. Even in Arizona there are some Trump supporters who continue to believe the conspiracy theories because Trump continues to promote them.
Trump's problem isn't the masses. It's that he doesn't pay his bills. When you stiff people, they notice.
Again with the shifting sands! Moving goalposts!
No there isn't. I've looked at the evidence provided in the lawsuits, and it is speculation and bullshit, subjective opinions and claims that make no sense. Much of that which could be considered "objective evidence" has been countered and disproven by others. You/they do not get to make such claims and then expect to be able to simply legally dismiss any objections or evidence made against it as "mainstream media lies". That is not how our legal system works.
I was addressing a specific point. Follow the thread up a bit.
He needs to show that it occurred in a significant way, in a way that supports the claims Trump and his allies are actually making, not what you claim the Democrats are making in response. You are wrong here. Trump and his allies do not have evidence of voter fraud existing in a way that would have changed the election in Trump's favor, which is what they would have to show because claims of election fraud were initially his.
Again, no evidence to support this.
I am an Independent and willing to discuss the topic.
Obviously, you are not looking at all the lawsuits, or are just plain using partisan blinders.
You can't discuss evidence that doesn't exist.
I've looked at the evidence presented and the lawsuits. The only one with partisan blinders on is you. Evidence has been presented against the statistical arguments and others. If you disagree, show the exact evidence you feel is strongest for voter fraud, what you feel I have not looked at.
and you address the point by playing "what if"
I'm not going to lay out a blow by blow here. I provided examples upstream. I'll repeat a few here, but would encourage you to go to the original sources.