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SONNEBERG, Germany — At first glance, this town in central Germany, with rows of large houses built when it was a thriving center of toy manufacturing, looks tidy and prosperous. But Heiko Voigt, the deputy mayor here, can point out dozens of vacant homes that he doubts will ever be sold. The reality is that the German population is shrinking and towns like this one are working hard to hide the emptiness. Mr. Voigt has already supervised the demolition of 60 houses and 12 apartment blocs, strategically injecting grassy patches into once-dense complexes. “We are trying to keep the town looking good,” he said.
There is perhaps nowhere better than the German countryside to see the dawning impact of Europe’s plunge in fertility rates over the decades, a problem that has frightening implications for the economy and the psyche of the Continent. In some areas, there are now abundant overgrown yards, boarded-up windows and concerns about sewage systems too empty to work properly. The work force is rapidly graying, and assembly lines are being redesigned to minimize bending and lifting. In its most recent census, Germany discovered it had lost 1.5 million inhabitants. By 2060, experts say, the country could shrink by an additional 19 percent, to about 66 million.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/14/w...nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130814&_r=1&
Very simple fix to this solution. Get women out of the workforce and back to making babies and raising kids. Force out foreigners who are breeding at a faster rate than native Germans. Ban feminism and make motherhood respectable again. Offer generous tax credits for families who have three or more children. Bring back the Lebensborn.
One thing from this article looked especially weird to me, this quote:
“If you look closely at the numbers, what you see is the higher the gender equality, the higher the birthrate”
Dunno where they got this from or what are they are basing this assertion on...has anyone got any ideas?
Cheers,
Fallen.
One thing from this article looked especially weird to me, this quote:
“If you look closely at the numbers, what you see is the higher the gender equality, the higher the birthrate”
Dunno where they got this from or what are they are basing this assertion on...has anyone got any ideas?
Cheers,
Fallen.
There is a band of fertility in Europe, stretching from France to Britain and the Scandinavian countries, helped along by immigrants and social services that support working women.
Much, much too radical. Just demolish the empty homes and grow hemp fields in the empty lots.http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/14/w...nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130814&_r=1&
Very simple fix to this solution. Get women out of the workforce and back to making babies and raising kids. Force out foreigners who are breeding at a faster rate than native Germans. Ban feminism and make motherhood respectable again. Offer generous tax credits for families who have three or more children. Bring back the Lebensborn.
Germany's citizens should also start brushing up on their Arabic.http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/14/w...nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130814&_r=1&
Very simple fix to this solution. Get women out of the workforce and back to making babies and raising kids. Force out foreigners who are breeding at a faster rate than native Germans. Ban feminism and make motherhood respectable again. Offer generous tax credits for families who have three or more children. Bring back the Lebensborn.
I'm so sick of this crap. Can ignorant right wing nutjobs stop making threads at DP please? Better yet, just stop posting to the internet.
Feminism didn't make motherhood disrespectable, it let women do more things with their lives than be baby receptacles.
There is ZERO evidence that Germany's problems are related to feminism. How about the cost of living thanks to RIGHT WING globalists who care about profit over ensuring that people in society can afford to live?
The growth model is defunct. We don't need more people on this planet, we need fewer people and better living.
It's not European countries that are facing overpopulation. Though they are facing a lot of illegal immigration. It's africa, ME and some asian countries that have too many people and too low standards of living. Tell them to stop having so many kids. So this doesn't apply here.
This doesn't mean I agree with the OP. I really couldn't care less what he has to say, he wrote socialist in his description and that's enough to drive me off.
Do you believe in motherhood?I'm happy to have a rational conversation about this, and it seems you are too. What I can't respect is an Americentric OP who thinks the war on socialism is global and thinks that feminism and immigration are Germany's or Europe's problem right now.
Europe is suffering from the same economic root problems as the United States, caused by rampant speculation and insolvent fiscal policy. Saying that it's women's fault for not staying at home and being baby machines or immigrants for migrating toward prosperity is just ludacris.
Do you believe in motherhood?
Well, you equated mothers to baby machines, so naturally, I had to ask.What kind of stupid question is that?
Well, you equated mothers to baby machines, so naturally, I had to ask.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/14/w...nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130814&_r=1&
Very simple fix to this solution. Get women out of the workforce and back to making babies and raising kids.
Force out foreigners who are breeding at a faster rate than native Germans. Ban feminism and make motherhood respectable again. Offer generous tax credits for families who have three or more children. Bring back the Lebensborn.
I'm happy to have a rational conversation about this, and it seems you are too. What I can't respect is an Americentric OP who thinks the war on socialism is global and thinks that feminism and immigration are Germany's or Europe's problem right now.
Europe is suffering from the same economic root problems as the United States, caused by rampant speculation and insolvent fiscal policy. Saying that it's women's fault for not staying at home and being baby machines or immigrants for migrating toward prosperity is just ludacris.
Well, I think population falls firstly under social problems, rather than economic ones.
Mass immigration is a big problem, especially from ME and african countries. Mass, unregulated, illegal immigration has no good outcomes for anyone. And that's what both the US and the EU are dealing it.
The economy is another issue, that's true.
Feminism, as an idea, isn't a problem. Some strains of feminist mentality are socially disruptive and do a lot of harm, just like some strains of anything (religion, politics, etc) are very bad for society.
For example, women like anita sarkeessian or whatever her name is, (the one with the tropes vs women videos that were posted on DP some time ago) are very much, extremist feminists who see sexism everywhere. Because you know, they're fanatics. Only not in the name of a religion, but of a gender.
It has economic origins, which is why I place it under "economic". Or we can just compromise and call it socioeconomic. People wouldn't be migrating in droves to the western world if it weren't for the inequities being caused by globalization.
Immigration is a consequence of globalization and neo-liberal policy. Trade treaties and organizations like the IMF are creating circumstances where mass migration is necessary for survival; and now we have climate change as an additional factor.
The economy is central. It's #1. Everything else expands outward from that.
Could you give some examples of how it's disruptive and harmful? Your statement is bold but lacks substance.
Anita Sarkeesian is not a radical feminist. If anything, she's a scholarly feminist turned activist. Her contribution to feminism is mostly research and media, she doesn't go out and commit radical acts against the patriarchy. So calling her an extremist is not factually accurate.
I do have some critiques of her, but I do not find her extreme at all. She makes many good points, and a lot of her facts are gathered from ancillary sources; so she's not just spouting diatribe, there is real research behind it.
Fine, socioeconomic it is.
People migrate, mostly illegally, to the western world because the world they live in is horrible. And once they get here, they decide to form enclaves and stick to each other and turn their habitat into a mirror of the place they came from. That's the downside of mass immigration. It's not inclusion, it's division. And I don't think trade treaties have anything to do with mass migration. It's trade treaties of goods and services, not people.
If you have 4 groups of notions that are important to a country you have: social, politics, economy and environment. The economy is no more important than the social aspects of the country, the political ones or the environmental ones. They all work together and they all have to be in a harmonious relationship to get the best outcomes. You can't have a strong economy if you have crime ridden country. You can't have a good environment if you don't have an educated population on the issue, and that's a sociopolitical matter. You can't have a growing economy if the policies of the state are harmful to economic stimulation and growth.
I think Anita is a radical feminist. She has already made up her mind that there is sexism in video games of all things and then went on and jumps through hoops and loops to find evidence of that, regardless of how stretched out or stupid it is. There are countless responses to her videos that poke holes in her commentaries so big that an elephant can pass through. I can link you to them if you wish. Here are 2 of them I found very easy.
As for feminism. It's outlived it's purpose. There is no issue regarding womens' right or equality in the western world that feminism can fix.
Feminism has a place in the ME, Russia or China or even Japan. Over there, it has some real work to do regarding equality for women and better treatment. But in most European societies and the USA, feminism has outlived it's usefulness, because as I said, any issues that women have can't be solved by it. So it's become radicalized. It's now a cultural terrorist.
Yay!
~snipped for spacial purposes.
Germany's citizens should also start brushing up on their Arabic.
It's not European countries that are facing overpopulation. Though they are facing a lot of illegal immigration. It's africa, ME and some asian countries that have too many people and too low standards of living. Tell them to stop having so many kids. So this doesn't apply here --
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