George Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin shooting, official says

[sharon]

You don't actually KNOW that to be true.

Which is my point.

How would Trayvon have known that Zimmerman believed him to be a suspicious person and burglar?

Can you explain how Trayvon would have known that or that GZ had called the police ..

 

[sharon]

Oh nice way to play the race card.

Now we know what is fueling this. Sharon is a RACIST. She snuggles up to blacks and hates Hispanics.

You are crazy.. I don't care what color they are.. The problem isn't color... its stupidity and obsession.

 

[The Mark]

How would Trayvon have known that Zimmerman believed him to be a suspicious person and burglar?

Can you explain how Trayvon would have known that or that GZ had called the police ..

WTF are you talking about?

I state that you do not KNOW what you are talking about is true.

And you respond with an off-the-wall statement about Trayvon not knowing something he could only know if he could read minds?
WTF?


Edit: To be clear, I was talking about your statement that Zimmerman is at fault, as opposed to Martin.

 

[dontworrybehappy]

WTF are you talking about?

I state that you do not KNOW what you are talking about is true.

And you respond with an off-the-wall statement about Trayvon not knowing something he could only know if he could read minds?
WTF?

Yea, she does that to you. Get used to it. Sharon is a wonderful provider of WTF moments.

 

[sharon]

WTF are you talking about?

I state that you do not KNOW what you are talking about is true.

And you respond with an off-the-wall statement about Trayvon not knowing something he could only know if he could read minds?
WTF?


Edit: To be clear, I was talking about your statement that Zimmerman is at fault, as opposed to Martin.

Of course Zimmerman is at fault. He decides Trayvon is a suspicious person, follows him, calls the police, follows hims some more.. never identifies himself.

All Trayvon knew was that some stranger was persistently following him.

 

[The Mark]

Of course Zimmerman is at fault. He decides Trayvon is a suspicious person, follows him, calls the police, follows hims some more.. never identifies himself.

All Trayvon knew was that some stranger was persistently following him.

Like I said before, and to be clear now I am referring to the first part of your statement, not the second...

You do not actually KNOW that to be true.

To be more clear: You do not actually KNOW that Zimmerman is at fault.
You may THINK you know this, but you do not.

 

[sharon]

Like I said before, and to be clear now I am referring to the first part of your statement, not the second...

You do not actually KNOW that to be true.

To be more clear: You do not actually KNOW that Zimmerman is at fault.
You may THINK you know this, but you do not.

WHAT?

Zimmerman called the police and followed Trayvon.. What could be more deliberate than that?

 

[The Mark]

WHAT?

Zimmerman called the police and followed Trayvon.. What could be more deliberate than that?

That is not the subject at hand.


What we're discussing is your claim that Zimmerman is at fault in this incident.

 

[dontworrybehappy]

That is not the subject at hand.


What we're discussing is your claim that Zimmerman is at fault in this incident.

Yea dude, watch her. She'll claim something and when you push her on the issue she will say "How can you deny XYZ" when it wasn't XYZ you were referring to. It's a diversion tactic. It's a tactic used by people who cannot defend their position.

She thinks she knows everything that happened. You will not convince her otherwise. It's sad that people like her can wind up on some poor SOB's jury.

 

[sharon]

That is not the subject at hand.


What we're discussing is your claim that Zimmerman is at fault in this incident.

Its Zimmerman's show from the top.

 

[The Mark]

Its Zimmerman's show from the top.

I frankly don't care what it is.

It still doesn't equate you KNOWING that Zimmerman was or is at fault.

 

[sharon]

I frankly don't care what it is.

It still doesn't equate you KNOWING that Zimmerman was or is at fault.

Who do you think was at fault?

Was Travon armed? Was he following George? Had he identified George as a possible criminal and called the police?

 

[The Mark]

Who do you think was at fault?

Was Travon armed? Was he following George? Had he identified George as a possible criminal and called the police?

I think we don't know if which one was at fault, or even if both or neither were.

 

[buck]

Had he identified George as a possible criminal and called the police?

Trayvon atttacked Zimmfor some reason, so yah. He probably did ID him as a possible criminal. The problem is that instead of calling the police, he probably waited for Zimm to approach. Had he called the police, things probably would have ended very differently.

 

[sharon]

Trayvon atttacked Zimmfor some reason, so yah. He probably did ID him as a possible criminal. The problem is that instead of calling the police, he probably waited for Zimm to approach. Had he called the police, things probably would have ended very differently.

When GZ showed up in the alley on foot... there wasn't time for Trayvon to call 911.

Isn't it odd.. that for all his profiling George never mentions that Trayvon is talking on the phone the whole time?

Do you ever people watch? I have done it all my life in sidewalk cafes and in airports.. You can tell alot about people if you watch them.. I just find it positively weird that GZ never mentions that Trayvon is on the phone.

And people with no history of violence rarely slug someone for no reason.. even when heated words are exchanged.

If I had been concerned about Trayvon and assumed he was a stranger. If I had called police and knew they were on their way. I would have spoken to Trayvon.. asked him if I could help him find and address.

You don't have to behave in a threatening manner to make your point... unless you are stupid like George.

 

[buck]

When GZ showed up in the alley on foot... there wasn't time for Trayvon to call 911.

There was plenty of time from the point he realized that he was being followed until the encounter.

Isn't it odd.. that for all his profiling George never mentions that Trayvon is talking on the phone the whole time?

Do you ever people watch? I have done it all my life in sidewalk cafes and in airports.. You can tell alot about people if you watch them.. I just find it positively weird that GZ never mentions that Trayvon is on the phone.

You do realize that, according to the GF, Trayvon had an ear piece. Zimm probably never even realized he was on the phone and that may have contributed to Zimm's belief of drugs.

And people with no history of violence rarely slug someone for no reason.. even when heated words are exchanged.

Are you certain Trayvon doesn't have a history of violence? There is some information available that hints that may not be true.

If I had been concerned about Trayvon and assumed he was a stranger. If I had called police and knew they were on their way. I would have spoken to Trayvon.. asked him if I could help him find and address.

Oy, more nonsense. Bully for you. Now what?

 

[sharon]

There was plenty of time from the point he realized that he was being followed until the encounter.



You do realize that, according to the GF, Trayvon had an ear piece. Zimm probably never even realized he was on the phone and that may have contributed to Zimm's belief of drugs.



Are you certain Trayvon doesn't have a history of violence? There is some information available that hints that may not be true.



Oy, more nonsense. Bully for you. Now what?

There was less than 2 minutes.. Do you think that if Trayvon called 911 they would have arrived in under two minutes?

Can you determine in a minute of two of observing someone if they are talking on the phone? I can .. and unlike GZ I don't consider myself a "profiler".

No.. According to his teachers, friends and classmates.. Trayvon had NO history of violence.

 

[buck]

There was less than 2 minutes.. Do you think that if Trayvon called 911 they would have arrived in under two minutes?

Who knows? Who cares? You are switching things around again. Do you do it on purpse, or is it accidental? The point was that he had plenty of time to call the police from the moment he realized he was being followed until the encounter (apparently more then 2 minutes, no)?

Can you determine in a minute of two of observing someone if they are talking on the phone? I can .. and unlike GZ I don't consider myself a "profiler".

Yes, you are so confident in your abilities, that you run away screaming when someone on the phone is walking towards you. Anyway, in the dark from a distance? Probably not.

No.. According to his teachers, friends and classmates.. Trayvon had NO history of violence.

Did you ask his cousin, who posted something about attacking a bus driver? I can not begin to say if it is acurate or not, but i'm trying to determine how you can be so certain? Is this your special powers again? Add that to resume, along with being able to capture multiple murdering doctors.

 

[sharon]

Who knows? Who cares? You are switching things around again. Do you do it on purpse, or is it accidental? The point was that he had plenty of time to call the police from the moment he realized he was being followed until the encounter (apparently more then 2 minutes, no)?




Yes, you are so confident in your abilities, that you run away screaming when someone on the phone is walking towards you. Anyway, in the dark from a distance? Probably not.



Did you ask his cousin, who posted something about attacking a bus driver? I can not begin to say if it is acurate or not, but i'm trying to determine how you can be so certain? Is this your special powers again? Add that to resume, along with being able to capture multiple murdering doctors.

Run away screaming? What are you talking about? For many decades when I would visit NYC we avoided people who appeared to be walking down the street talking to themsleves.

Well over a decade ago I was faced with a man talking to himself and gesturing with his hands as Italians often do.... I bolted but I certainly didn't scream.. and it took me about 20 seconds to realize that he was talking on a cell phone.

What are you talking about mutliple murdering doctors.. I refused to hire some doctors with obvious personality problems and they went on to shoot people.

George has a personality problem.. and Omara would serve him well if he order a psyche evaluation.

 

[Excon]

George has a personality problem..

You don't know that.

 

[buck]

I bolted but I certainly didn't scream.. and it took me about 20 seconds to realize that he was talking on a cell phone.

I like the idea of you screaming as you run. Forgive me the artistic license.

George has a personality problem.. and Omara would serve him well if he order a psyche evaluation.

Showing off your wonderful, expert psychiatric from a great distance ability. Best get that one on the resume too.

Looks like you went the path of ignoring the comments relevant to the actual case - I suspect you probably had nothing to back up your certainty/claims.

 

[sharon]

I like the idea of you screaming as you run. Forgive me the artistic license.



Showing off your wonderful, expert psychiatric from a great distance ability. Best get that one on the resume too.

Looks like you went the path of ignoring the comments relevant to the actual case - I suspect you probably had nothing to back up your certainty/claims.

Well, I am not a screamer..

Had GZ followed me and actually scared me and accosted me in that alley.. I would have slugged him in the jaw with the Arizona iced tea... and knocked him out.

I have traveled all over the world alone since age 12... and while I am not a particularly fearful person.. you always think ahead.. and you NEVER let anyone corner you or take your passport or travelors checks.

The problem here is not that GZ is a killer.. the problem is that he is bloody stupid.

 

[buck]

Had GZ followed me and actually scared me and accosted me in that alley.. I would have slugged him in the jaw with the Arizona iced tea... and knocked him out.

Sounds like you too would have had a bullet wound right through the heart. Seems you didn't learn a thing from this incident. If this happens to me, I will try to diffuse the situation and only come to blows if necessary.

 

[sharon]

Sounds like you too would have had a bullet wound right through the heart. Seems you didn't learn a thing from this incident. If this happens to me, I will try to diffuse the situation and only come to blows if necessary.

Of course.......... that's key,

GZ made NO effort to diffuse the situation.

Are you actually following the discusssion?

Because I said much earlier how I would have diffused the situation if I were George.

 

[buck]

Of course.......... that's key,

GZ made NO effort to diffuse the situation.

And neither did Trayvon. Unless you consider diffusing the situation breaking someones nose when you are asked a question in response to a question. Shrug. Each their own.