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[Mason66]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

But not a stand your ground law, he was stalking the kid, the kid defended himself successfully but had the bad luck Zimmerman had a gun.

This case had absolutely nothing to do with the stand your ground law.

Why do people keep bringing that up here?

 

[jet57]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

Wrong. You just don't understand is all.
Had you followed this case from the beginning you would understand what was being spoken about.
Miami-Dade Schools Police Department (MDSPD
They had orders not to make Official reports so as to divert blacks away from the justice system.
Trayvon's criminal behavior was diverted to school discipline rather than the deserved criminal action.
They covered up the stolen jewelry found in his backpack, as just "found items" at the school which kept them away from being officially reported.

Much the same thing was done with the pipe and baggie with marijuana residue found on Trayvon.

Just maybe had he been diverted into the criminal justice system (as he should have been) instead of just suspensions, his bad behavior could have been nipped in the bud.
But as it is, we will never known.

Trayvon Martin: Miami-Dade Police Investigated Slain Teen Over Jewelry Found In Backpack At School

Miami-Dade Police confirmed that it had been asked by school police to help identify the property taken from Martin's backpack. It notified school police that the jewelry did not match any that had been reported stolen.

There was no ‘there’ there. Moreover, Trayvon’s status as a minor had a lot to do with what the cops could and could not say.
But as we all know, Martin was an unarmed teenager and as such Zimmerman was way out of league and shot a boy. Now of course we are finding more and more ways, through Zimerrman’s own behavior that he is no good to begin with and exactly why Trayvon was murdered.

 

[jet57]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

No, he wasn't packing a gun, but he did make the big mistake of attacking a guy with a gun and tring to grab it from him.
It's a tragic way to learn a lesson but every time I even consider a road rage incident, I remember it;s best to assume it may be a nut with a gun.

Plus , he ( Trayvon Martin ) was a racist which didn't help

That story was Zimmerman's version.

 

[Excon]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

But not a stand your ground law, he was stalking the kid, the kid defended himself successfully but had the bad luck Zimmerman had a gun.

This case had absolutely nothing to do with the stand your ground law.

Why do people keep bringing that up here?

Because they do not know, do not want to learn and don't care either way that they don't.

 

[Excon]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

Trayvon Martin: Miami-Dade Police Investigated Slain Teen Over Jewelry Found In Backpack At School

I see you are not understanding.
It was not connected to Trayvon, just "found" as you were told.

The HuffPo sources the following article.

SANFORD — Miami Gardens teenager Trayvon Martin was suspended from school in October in an incident in which he was found in possession of women’s jewelry and a screwdriver that a schools security staffer described as a “burglary tool,” The Miami Herald has learned.
Trayvon, who claimed that an unnamed friend had given him the jewelry, was not disciplined because of the discovery, but was instead suspended for graffiti, according to a Miami-Dade Schools Police report obtained by The Miami Herald.

Reports of suspensions paint more complicated picture of Trayvon Martin​

There was no criminal investigation started and he was not suspended for the jewelry.

This again was done to divert him away from the criminal process and reduce black criminal statistics.


Here is a partial sworn statement of Sergeant William Tagle stating that Trayvon was not connected to the found items.

And the jewelry was later identified as being stolen.


Not connecting Trayvon to the items found in his back pack was making a false report.


Continued below.

 

[Excon]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

Moreover, Trayvon’s status as a minor had a lot to do with what the cops could and could not say.

Moreover nothing.
It had nothing to do with his age.
The information wasn't released because of local policy making it an educational record by there internal police department, not an Official Police Department record which it actually was.

Thankfully the information was leaked and prompted an IA investigation and terminations

Trayvon certainly could have been arrested for his criminal actions. He was instead diverted to school discipline rather than the deserved criminal action.

Here is a portion of a Sworn affidavit of former Miami-Dade School Police Dept. Police Chief Charles Hurley speaking specifically about the graffiti incident.

I am told. Our contact in terms of the Miami-Dade Schools Police Department with the deceased child, T.M., to the best of our records indicate that on or about October 20, 2011, an incident involving the deceased child, T.M., took place at Dr. Michael Krop Senior High School. The report was made on this case the day after which is October 21, 2011. The report was written by one of our Miami-Dade Schools Police Department officers, Officer Darryl E. Dunn. The report indicated the following, that on October the 20th, 2011, the deceased child, T.M., was observed writing graffiti of some sort on school property. The following day, the deceased child, T.M., was in fact contacted by that officer, as well as in the company of school personnel and the graffiti, it turns out, the damage was very, very minor. It is not -- and I am also told that it was the initials, "W.T.F." which generally stands for what the explicit word, ****. I am told the damage was very minimal and it is not uncommon for our police department to work in the best interest of our youth. In this case, T.M., or any other youth in similar cases, and evaluate the totality of circumstance and issue either a warning and give it back to the administration to handle. We can in fact, of course issue a civil citation which is an arrest diversion program which was actually created by this police department and authored under my time as a sergeant and a commander here at Miami-Dade Schools Police Department. Or we can in fact, make a full blown arrest because technically there was damage and defacing of school property. There was probable cause to make this arrest and we know who the person was that committed this damage. In this interest in taking that approach it does nothing to benefit the child and the officer in this case should be commended for exercising discretion and referring it back to the school administration for administrative purposes.​

Pages 6 and 7 of 15.
Charles Hurley - M-DSPD Police Chief​

You are trying to engage in a discussion of which you know nothing about.
I would suggest you stop, or at least became familiar with what you are attempting to discus.

But as we all know, Martin was an unarmed teenager and as such Zimmerman was way out of league and shot a boy. Now of course we are finding more and more ways, through Zimerrman’s own behavior that he is no good to begin with and exactly why Trayvon was murdered.

Now you have just shown you are not being rational about this at all.
Trayvon was not murdered.
Trayvon was a young adult old enough to be emancipated and join the military who wrongly acted out violently and got himself shot.
Zimmerman acted in accordance with the law and was justified in his actions.

Nothing you said has been rational.

That story was Zimmerman's version.

No.
That is the evidence. Learn it.

 

[Grim17]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

This case had absolutely nothing to do with the stand your ground law.

Why do people keep bringing that up here?

The people who bring that up just happen to be the same people who get the facts wrong, cite facts that don't exist, make baseless assumptions about the motives of George Zimmerman the night the incident and who to this day can't accept the truth that George Zimmerman wasn't a murdering racist, but rather a man who was physically attacked and forced to use lethal force to defend himself.


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[Grim17]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

Trayvon Martin: Miami-Dade Police Investigated Slain Teen Over Jewelry Found In Backpack At School



There was no ‘there’ there. Moreover, Trayvon’s status as a minor had a lot to do with what the cops could and could not say.
But as we all know, Martin was an unarmed teenager and as such Zimmerman was way out of league and shot a boy. Now of course we are finding more and more ways, through Zimerrman’s own behavior that he is no good to begin with and exactly why Trayvon was murdered.

Here's something from that article you must have overlooked:

The Herald reported that when campus security confronted Martin with the jewelry, he told them that a friend had given it to him, but he wouldn't give a name.

A high school kid with women's jewelry and a watch that he said was "given" to him, but allows the school to confiscate his property, rather than simply telling them the name of the person who gave the items to him.... Nothing suspicious or out of the ordinary about that, right?

It's perfectly normal for a teenaged boy to receive woman's jewelry as a gift, then let it all be taken away from him because he won't divulge the name of his generous gift-giving friend.

Give me a break dude.

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[blackjack50]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

Sorry, but I don't know the story. I don't read right-wing rags.

The boy was walking home with legally purchased items and Zimmerman killed him. Now Zimmerman thinks it's cool to show pictures of the boy's body.

Zimmerman is the kind of person that WOULD kill a teenager.

There are hundreds of those kinds of people in every inner city gang infested hell hole. But that doesn't matter because they aren't republicans. You can't use their deaths as a political taking point against dastardly "white people" (which again is code for white people who vote republican).

It doesn't matter that it is far more likely that this guy lost it after a traumatic event. And it doesn't matter that you would kill a teenager every second of the day to spare your own life...assuming that teenager was going to beat you to a pulp. Self defense isn't a crime.

 

[blackjack50]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

Look, whatever you said, I'm not even going to bother reading it.

The sooner Zimmerman dies, the better off we all are.

How compassionate.

 

[blackjack50]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

Here's something from that article you must have overlooked:



A high school kid with women's jewelry and a watch that he said was "given" to him, but allows the school to confiscate his property, rather than simply telling them the name of the person who gave the items to him.... Nothing suspicious or out of the ordinary about that, right?

It's perfectly normal for a teenaged boy to receive woman's jewelry as a gift, then let it all be taken away from him because he won't divulge the name of his generous gift-giving friend.

Give me a break dude.

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Teenage kids don't lie. Don't you know that?

 

[Grim17]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

Teenage kids don't lie. Don't you know that?

Especially when that teenage kid presents an opportunity to advance a certain political agenda.

 

[JANFU]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

Here's something from that article you must have overlooked:



A high school kid with women's jewelry and a watch that he said was "given" to him, but allows the school to confiscate his property, rather than simply telling them the name of the person who gave the items to him.... Nothing suspicious or out of the ordinary about that, right?

It's perfectly normal for a teenaged boy to receive woman's jewelry as a gift, then let it all be taken away from him because he won't divulge the name of his generous gift-giving friend.

Give me a break dude.

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DP for sure on that. Sure will cut crime levels down.

 

[TurtleDude]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

This is exactly the kind of person who should be in jail. Unstable, aggressive, dangerous.

yeah lets jettison that pesky obstacle of "presumed innocent unless proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt"

 

[TurtleDude]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

Seriously? Some -- heck even on this website -- think he's simply awesome.

well when women send marriage proposals to Charlie Manson, and once Crispy Critter Ted Bundy etc, following an assclown like Zimmerman on Twitter is minor league stuff

 

[TurtleDude]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

If that incident happened say here in Canada, no doubt Zimmerman would be simmerin' in a jail cell.

can a private citizen carry a pistol up there without a license from the Queen or at least the PM?

 

[Ancient Herald]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

I think people read things like Zimmerman and Limbaugh and Stewart because it feels good to feel superior to people like them. That's why people read them.

otherwise, the solution is really and truly a very simple one.

if you don't like it, don't read it and change the channel.

To like Arabian belly dancers.

Really yummy looking female Arabian belly dancers have far more substance than them.

And belly dancing can be quite hypnotic with a real professional....

 

[SDET]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

I believe that there's a reasonable doubt that George Zimmerman was responsible for Martin's death. That's about the best thing I can say about Zimmerman.

 

[blackjack50]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

I believe that there's a reasonable doubt that George Zimmerman was responsible for Martin's death. That's about the best thing I can say about Zimmerman.

There is also a reasonable doubt he isn't. Which is all that matters.

 

[TurtleDude]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

I believe that there's a reasonable doubt that George Zimmerman was responsible for Martin's death. That's about the best thing I can say about Zimmerman.

Oh there is no doubt Zimmerman killed Thugon but the issue whether his actions constituted a violation of one or more laws. There was reasonable doubt that he violated the law, thus he walked

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

Exactly!

I'm assuming you realize I am pointing out the irony of your fear of "black" places while chiding others "Racism"

 

[Peter King]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

Everything you just said is blatantly wrong.
There was no stalking.
The "kid" (read young adult old enough to be emancipated and then join the military) was not innocent.
He was was using his own body as a weapon.
Zimmerman was not wrong and, it was not immoral and it certainly wasn't vigilantism as he was acting within the confines of the law.

And this crap about not listening to police is just that crap. Even the way you characterized it is false.
A call-taker suggested that they did not need him to follow. That is all. As it is it is a meaning less statement that has no relevance.
But Zimmerman acknowledge the suggestion and said and stopped following him and went a different way then the way Trayvon had gone when he did not have to. Your whole position in regards to this is nonsense.



Everything you said is false.

Zimmerman was not wrong :lamo, he thought the black kid (racist point of view) was possibly a criminal because he walking in "his" neighborhood even though he was not a criminal.

Using his own body as a weapon LOL, sure, you mean he stood his ground when followed and targeted for his color by a full grown unknown man?

You can have your own view on this, but Zimmerman was wrong to call the police IMHO for racially profiling Trayvon, he was wrong to get out of the car and try to find where the kid was. You can disagree with that, but guess what, people can have opposing views to yours and still not say things that are "false". You may disagree because you think the facts should be explained differently but that is something very different.

 

[Natan]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

You can have your own view on this, but Zimmerman was wrong to call the police IMHO for racially profiling Trayvon,

Zimmerman did NOT "racially profile" Trayvon.

Dispatcher: Sanford Police Department. ... Zimmerman: Hey we've had some break-ins in my neighborhood, and there's a real suspicious guy, uh, [near] Retreat View Circle, um, the best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle. This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about. Dispatcher: OK, and this guy is he white, black, or Hispanic? Zimmerman: He looks black. Dispatcher: Did you see what he was wearing? Zimmerman: Yeah. A dark hoodie, like a grey hoodie, and either jeans or sweatpants and white tennis shoes. He's [unintelligible], he was just staring... Dispatcher: OK, he's just walking around the area... Zimmerman: ...looking at all the houses. Dispatcher: OK... Zimmerman: Now he's just staring at me. Dispatcher: OK--you said it's 1111 Retreat View? Or 111? Zimmerman: That's the clubhouse... Dispatcher: That's the clubhouse, do you know what the--he's near the clubhouse right now? Zimmerman: Yeah, now he's coming towards me. Dispatcher: OK. Zimmerman: He's got his hand in his waistband. And he's a black male.
Dispatcher: How old would you say he looks? Zimmerman: He's got button on his shirt, late teens. Dispatcher: Late teens ok.
Transcript of George Zimmerman's Call to the Police | Mother Jones

It's the dispatcher that brought up the race, Zimmerman didn't know for sure and said the suspect "looks" black. Only when Trayvon was coming towards Zimmerman, he was sure Trayvon was black, as is evidenced by the confirmation towards the dispatcher.

Sorry to bust your humble opinion.

 

[cabse5]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

Whoever has access to his Twitter account. Zimmerman, so far, has responded to the outrage not by denying he posted the pic, but by trolling his critics.

So, you're picking and choosing GZ's outrage for him? To be outraged at a pic of Martin is a must but outrage over The Stalking Of GZ by haters of the verdict in Florida and beyond isn't?

Why doesn't GZ physically attack one of his stalkers? I've read it more than once on this thread that someone who's being stalked has every right to 'defend themself'?

 

[Bodi]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

Zimmerman was not wrong :lamo, he thought the black kid (racist point of view) was possibly a criminal because he walking in "his" neighborhood even though he was not a criminal.

How is that racist?