Gen Z Republicans see new era for party after Trump

[Ahlevah]

Now that the election dust has settled just weeks until President-elect Joe Biden's inauguration, the Republican Party is beginning to take stock of its future beyond President Donald Trump.

For many young Republicans, Trump's loss signals an opening for new directions within the party. Several said in interviews that they want the party to become more tolerant and inclusive while staying true to conservative values.

Gen Z Republicans see new era for party after Trump

"We should be attempting to expand our reaches, even if it does cost us," said one young Republican voter.

www.nbcnews.com

This Boomer sees a new era for the Republican Party after Trump, too. It's something that Trump tapped into. Call it Trumpism if you want. I call it Americanism: embracing the values that made America great--patriotism; hard work and the value and worth of the common worker; self-reliance; a belief in a higher power, with His principles serving as the nation's moral lodestar; E Pluribus Unum (Out of many, one)--things like that. If Gen Z Republicans' idea of "inclusion" is to just turn the Republican Party into another progressive-style, fanatical commercial for critical theory-based Wokeism, then that's taking a wrong turn. Unlike Wokeism, Americanism doesn't look at the American Experiment as a power and privilege-based zero-sum game in which "to the victor go the spoils." It's based on the idea that everyone can work towards "a more perfect union" so that all of us, regardless of race color, or creed, have a fair shot at achieving some measure of this thing called "the American Dream."

When I was growing up, the Soviet Union held itself up as the most "inclusive" nation on the planet, and in some ways it was, as an amalgamation of so many regions and cultures stretching from Europe to the Pacific. It was also a totalitarian nightmare. Wokeists would have the United States emulate it. We don't need to aspire to that sort of inclusion. It's destructive, which I suppose is the whole idea--to remake America in their own Wokeist image and rebuild it from the ground up, the current incarnation, after all, being as flawed as it is. As one American to the rest of you, no thanks. I'll keep the imperfect one and just work on fixing it.

 

[Mycroft]

This Boomer sees a new era for the Republican Party after Trump, too. It's something that Trump tapped into. Call it Trumpism if you want. I call it Americanism: embracing the values that made America great--patriotism; hard work and the value and worth of the common worker; self-reliance; a belief in a higher power, with His principles serving as the nation's moral lodestar; E Pluribus Unum (Out of many, one)--things like that. If Gen Z Republicans' idea of "inclusion" is to just turn the Republican Party into another progressive-style, fanatical commercial for critical theory-based Wokeism, then that's taking a wrong turn. Unlike Wokeism, Americanism doesn't look at the American Experiment as a power and privilege-based zero-sum game in which "to the victor go the spoils." It's based on the idea that everyone can work towards "a more perfect union" so that all of us, regardless of race color, or creed, have a fair shot at achieving some measure of this thing called "the American Dream."

When I was growing up, the Soviet Union held itself up as the most "inclusive" nation on the planet, and in some ways it was, as an amalgamation of so many regions and cultures stretching from Europe to the Pacific. It was also a totalitarian nightmare. Wokeists would have the United States emulate it. We don't need to aspire to that sort of inclusion. It's destructive, which I suppose is the whole idea--to remake America in their own Wokeist image and rebuild it from the ground up, the current incarnation, after all, being as flawed as it is. As one American to the rest of you, no thanks. I'll keep the imperfect one and just work on fixing it.

shrug...

Those Gen-Z's can have the Republican Party. In 2024, there will be 90+% of the Republican rank and file leaving and joining a new Party that will be committed to continuing Trump's policies and goals.

 

[Ahlevah]

shrug...

Those Gen-Z's can have the Republican Party. In 2024, there will be 90+% of the Republican rank and file leaving and joining a new Party that will be committed to continuing Trump's policies and goals.

Sign me up if it has a chance, but if it's just a retreaded version of Ross Perot's Reform Party or a gussied up version of the Tea Party forget it. The political cemetery is filled with the corpses of political parties inspired by various movements over the centuries. America's power structure is designed to preserve a duopoly. Besides, why leave it? Trump got 75 million votes as a Republican. Get the old guard to leave. Good riddance to Romney and his RINO ilk.

 

[Mycroft]

Sign me up if it has a chance, but if it's just a retreaded version of Ross Perot's Reform Party or a gussied up version of the Tea Party forget it. The political cemetery is filled with the corpses of political parties inspired by various movements over the centuries. America's power structure is designed to preserve a duopoly. Besides, why leave it? Trump got 75 million votes as a Republican. Get the old guard to leave. Good riddance to Romney and his RINO ilk.

The "old guard" won't leave the Republican Party. It's worth too much money to them.

But just think...75 million people leaving the Republican Party, the Democratic Party and the Independents and all of them voting for local government and federal government legislative candidates who support Trump's policies and goals. That's got to strike fear into the heart of that Republican old guard as well as the entire Democratic Party.

 

[Grand Mal]

shrug...

Those Gen-Z's can have the Republican Party. In 2024, there will be 90+% of the Republican rank and file leaving and joining a new Party that will be committed to continuing Trump's policies and goals.

Wow.
And some people deny the existence of a Trump cult.

 

[Mycroft]

Wow.
And some people deny the existence of a Trump cult.

Not a cult. Just Americans tired of getting screwed.

 

[Deuce]

shrug...

Those Gen-Z's can have the Republican Party. In 2024, there will be 90+% of the Republican rank and file leaving and joining a new Party that will be committed to continuing Trump's policies and goals.

Hahahahaha good luck with that.

 

[CaughtInThe]

shrug...

Those Gen-Z's can have the Republican Party. In 2024, there will be 90+% of the Republican rank and file leaving and joining a new Party that will be committed to continuing Trump's policies and goals.

the confederates will always stick together.

 

[Grand Mal]

Not a cult. Just Americans tired of getting screwed.

Screwed like these Americans got screwed?

Judge finalizes $25 million Trump University settlement for students of 'sham university'

The '"victims of Donald Trump’s fraudulent university will finally receive the relief they deserve," New York's attorney general said.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Helix]

the Republican party doesn't just get to say a couple non-crazy things in order to be considered sane.

 

[jnug]

This Boomer sees a new era for the Republican Party after Trump, too. It's something that Trump tapped into. Call it Trumpism if you want. I call it Americanism: embracing the values that made America great--patriotism; hard work and the value and worth of the common worker; self-reliance; a belief in a higher power, with His principles serving as the nation's moral lodestar; E Pluribus Unum (Out of many, one)--things like that. If Gen Z Republicans' idea of "inclusion" is to just turn the Republican Party into another progressive-style, fanatical commercial for critical theory-based Wokeism, then that's taking a wrong turn. Unlike Wokeism, Americanism doesn't look at the American Experiment as a power and privilege-based zero-sum game in which "to the victor go the spoils." It's based on the idea that everyone can work towards "a more perfect union" so that all of us, regardless of race color, or creed, have a fair shot at achieving some measure of this thing called "the American Dream."

When I was growing up, the Soviet Union held itself up as the most "inclusive" nation on the planet, and in some ways it was, as an amalgamation of so many regions and cultures stretching from Europe to the Pacific. It was also a totalitarian nightmare. Wokeists would have the United States emulate it. We don't need to aspire to that sort of inclusion. It's destructive, which I suppose is the whole idea--to remake America in their own Wokeist image and rebuild it from the ground up, the current incarnation, after all, being as flawed as it is. As one American to the rest of you, no thanks. I'll keep the imperfect one and just work on fixing it.

If recent events are of any interest to you, it would appear that you think "Americanism" meanings overthrowing the Republic. NO THANKS.

 

[Mycroft]

Screwed like these Americans got screwed?

Judge finalizes $25 million Trump University settlement for students of 'sham university'

The '"victims of Donald Trump’s fraudulent university will finally receive the relief they deserve," New York's attorney general said.

www.usatoday.com

No. Screwed like 40-50% of small businesses disappearing because of COVID policy while multinationals like Amazon, Walmart and tech companies.

 

[Ahlevah]

The "old guard" won't leave the Republican Party. It's worth too much money to them.

But just think...75 million people leaving the Republican Party, the Democratic Party and the Independents and all of them voting for local government and federal government legislative candidates who support Trump's policies and goals. That's got to strike fear into the heart of that Republican old guard as well as the entire Democratic Party.

If you look back at the history of the Democratic Party in this country, what do you see? I see Andrew Jackson, Manifest Destiny, and slavery. Next I see Jim Crow. Then I see "progressives" like Woodrow Wilson and the eugenics movement, which fit in nicely with the idea that you couldn't create utopia if the the wrong people were breeding (The Racist Legacy of Woodrow Wilson--The Atlantic). But then I see FDR and his New Deal and the modern Civil Rights Movement. Voilà! A new party is born. Meanwhile, how about the Republicans? The Party of Lincoln, the one that grew out of the abolitionist movement, destroyed slavery, and gave us the post-Civil War civil rights amendments, morphed into the "party of the rich" and Goldwater's "Southern strategy" in which many of the former Democratic good ole boys became Republicans. I'd rather keep and emphasize the honored legacy of the old Republican Party and toss out the newer but still old one.

 

[Grand Mal]

No. Screwed like 40-50% of small businesses disappearing because of COVID policy while multinationals like Amazon, Walmart and tech companies.

Where have 40-50% of small businesses disappeared?
I'll finish your sentence myself, shall I?

 

[Ahlevah]

If recent events are of any interest to you, it would appear that you think "Americanism" meanings overthrowing the Republic. NO THANKS.

Not at all. I don't equate the religion of Wokeism with the the Republic.

 

[Mycroft]

Where have 40-50% of small businesses disappeared?
I'll finish your sentence myself, shall I?

Covid Is Crushing Small Businesses. That’s Bad News for American Innovation.

Small firms have been getting squeezed by big businesses for years. The pandemic has made it much worse.

www.wsj.com

Weekly Census Bureau Survey Provides Near-Real-Time Info on Businesses

The U.S. Census Bureau’s Small Business Pulse Survey yields near real-time economic data on businesses...

www.census.gov

The Covid-19 Crisis Has Wiped Out Nearly Half Of Black Small Businesses

Nearly half of Black small businesses had been wiped out by the end of April as the pandemic ravaged minority communities disproportionately, according to a report from the New York Fed.

www.forbes.com

And that's as of Aug 2020 or so. It's likely worse now.

btw, Canada is suffering, too.

COVID-19 could kill 40% of small businesses: Survey

Owners of a whopping 40% of Canadian small businesses are worried the pandemic will force the closure of their operations, a survey has found.

torontosun.com

 

[Antiwar]

... voting for local government and federal government legislative candidates who support Trump's policies and goals. ...

What policies and goals are you talking about?

 

[Grand Mal]

Covid Is Crushing Small Businesses. That’s Bad News for American Innovation.

Small firms have been getting squeezed by big businesses for years. The pandemic has made it much worse.

www.wsj.com

Weekly Census Bureau Survey Provides Near-Real-Time Info on Businesses

The U.S. Census Bureau’s Small Business Pulse Survey yields near real-time economic data on businesses...

www.census.gov

The Covid-19 Crisis Has Wiped Out Nearly Half Of Black Small Businesses

Nearly half of Black small businesses had been wiped out by the end of April as the pandemic ravaged minority communities disproportionately, according to a report from the New York Fed.

www.forbes.com

And that's as of Aug 2020 or so. It's likely worse now.

btw, Canada is suffering, too.

COVID-19 could kill 40% of small businesses: Survey

Owners of a whopping 40% of Canadian small businesses are worried the pandemic will force the closure of their operations, a survey has found.

torontosun.com

None of that says 40-50% of small businesses have disappeared. The nearest thing to it says that 41% of black-owned small businesses have failed and blames institutional racism.
Do you know what the failure rate of small business is normally?

"20% of small businesses fail in their first year, 30% of small business fail in their second year, and 50% of small businesses fail after five years in business. Finally, 70% of small business owners fail in their 10th year in business."

What Percentage of Small Businesses Fail?

If you’re wondering what percentage of small businesses fail, it's a valid question. We go through this fact and other small business statistics.

www.fundera.com

 

[Tigerace117]

shrug...

Those Gen-Z's can have the Republican Party. In 2024, there will be 90+% of the Republican rank and file leaving and joining a new Party that will be committed to continuing Trump's policies and goals.

It’ll be amusing watching the Republican Party disintegrate.

 

[Cork]

If you look back at the history of the Democratic Party in this country, what do you see? I see Andrew Jackson, Manifest Destiny, and slavery. Next I see Jim Crow. Then I see "progressives" like Woodrow Wilson and the eugenics movement, which fit in nicely with the idea that you couldn't create utopia if the the wrong people were breeding (The Racist Legacy of Woodrow Wilson--The Atlantic). But then I see FDR and his New Deal and the modern Civil Rights Movement. Voilà! A new party is born. Meanwhile, how about the Republicans? The Party of Lincoln, the one that grew out of the abolitionist movement, destroyed slavery, and gave us the post-Civil War civil rights amendments, morphed into the "party of the rich" and Goldwater's "Southern strategy" in which many of the former Democratic good ole boys became Republicans. I'd rather keep and emphasize the honored legacy of the old Republican Party and toss out the newer but still old one.

I don't agree with Bill Maher much but he makes this one point I thought was interesting.

What's about the D party that turn people away so much that makes people stay with the Republican even with the last 4 years of trump.

 

[Ahlevah]

I don't agree with Bill Maher much but he makes this one point I thought was interesting.

What's about the D party that turn people away so much that makes people stay with the Republican even with the last 4 years of trump.

Good point. Imagine if Trump had acted just a little bit less like a lunatic and someone with greater integrity. I guess many but not all in the electorate saw ANTIFA and the rest of the SJW movement and decided when it came to sanity Trump was the lesser of two evils. Nonetheless, anyone who thinks this country is going back to the old way of doing things--the influence peddling, Beltway revolving door backscratching, lobbyist schmoozing, etc. without repercussions has got another thing coming. I don't think the Trump Revolution is, by any means, over. Conservative PACS need to to remake the Party by developing and funding loyalist candidates and going after the Romney RINOs of the nation. Trump will still have tremendous power as a fundraiser and influencer.

 

[Mycroft]

What policies and goals are you talking about?

???

Are you telling me that, after five years, you are unaware of Trump's policies and goals?

Jesus!!

You are dismissed.

 

[Mycroft]

None of that says 40-50% of small businesses have disappeared. The nearest thing to it says that 41% of black-owned small businesses have failed and blames institutional racism.
Do you know what the failure rate of small business is normally?

"20% of small businesses fail in their first year, 30% of small business fail in their second year, and 50% of small businesses fail after five years in business. Finally, 70% of small business owners fail in their 10th year in business."

What Percentage of Small Businesses Fail?

If you’re wondering what percentage of small businesses fail, it's a valid question. We go through this fact and other small business statistics.

www.fundera.com

sigh...

Take your blinders off.

Better yet, never mind.

You are dismissed.

 

[Deuce]

sigh...

Take your blinders off.

Better yet, never mind.

You are dismissed.

You are dismissed. You failed to back up your claim. Bye now.

 

[Grand Mal]

sigh...

Take your blinders off.

Better yet, never mind.

You are dismissed.

Blinders? Ooh, I smell conspiracy! Is the Covid pandemic a cooked-up hoax or is it just exaggerated for monetary gain?