GDP grew at a 6.9% pace to close out 2021, stronger than expected despite omicron spread

[Conservative]

My federal taxes increase became the 2018 law limits state and local taxes to $10,000 and I pay more.

My federal taxes increase became the 2018 law limits state and local taxes to $10,000 and I pay more.

As I thought, you expect to deduct your high state and local taxes from your federal return. About time you realized how expensive liberalism is, thank you Trump for showing people that reality even though they don't get it and blame Trump. Why do you believe your state and local taxes should be deducted from your federal taxes which are used to pay for the discretionary budget, the following line items

Busting 5 Myths About Government Discretionary Spending

Current discretionary spending is $1.485 trillion for FY 2021. This budget pays for programs such as defense, education, and NASA.

www.thebalance.com

NASA
Dept of Defense
HHS
Education
VA
Homeland Security
Energy Dept
HUD
State Dept	1

 

[Tbird19482]

Have you sent your Trump tax cut back to the IRS on each of your paychecks?

Never got one as I told you a long time ago MY taxes went UP .
before the tax cut I had about 24,000 in itemized deductions and seeing that is the standard deduction now and we lost the personal exemption I pay more now then before his tax cut
have a nice night

 

[Conservative]

Never got one as I told you a long time ago MY taxes went UP .
before the tax cut I had about 24,000 in itemized deductions and seeing that is the standard deduction now and we lost the personal exemption I pay more now then before his tax cut
have a nice night

Post 651, about damn time you paid your fair share of FIT after deducting high state and local taxes from your federal return for years.

 

[Tbird19482]

As I thought, you expect to deduct your high state and local taxes from your federal return. About time you realized how expensive liberalism is, thank you Trump for showing people that reality even though they don't get it and blame Trump. Why do you believe your state and local taxes should be deducted from your federal taxes which are used to pay for the discretionary budget, the following line items

Busting 5 Myths About Government Discretionary Spending

Current discretionary spending is $1.485 trillion for FY 2021. This budget pays for programs such as defense, education, and NASA.

www.thebalance.com

NASA
Dept of Defense
HHS
Education
VA
Homeland Security
Energy Dept
HUD
State Dept	1

Maybe IF the RED states would pay for the things they get from their state using the Money the Federal Gov. gives them that the Federal Gov. gets from the Blue states and the Federal Government started returning that money back to the states on a % per person basis Blue states would have such high state taxes.
Let the Red states start paying their own way and not keep taking from the Blue states
have a nice night

 

[Tbird19482]

Post 651, about damn time you paid your fair share of FIT after deducting high state and local taxes from your federal return for years.

as I said in post 654 IF the Blue states didn't have to keep paying for the Red states they could lower their state taxes
and for your info the Blue states have been subsidizing the red states for MANY MANY YEARS and that was even with deducting state taxes.
and that is a FACT
Have a nice night

 

[Conservative]

Maybe IF the RED states would pay for the things they get from their state using the Money the Federal Gov. gives them that the Federal Gov. gets from the Blue states and the Federal Government started returning that money back to the states on a % per person basis Blue states would have such high state taxes.
Let the Red states start paying their own way and not keep taking from the Blue states
have a nice night

Right, this red state citizen didn't have the high state and local taxes that you were deducting from your FIT return so I was paying more than my fair share, glad to see you paying yours now. Blaming Trump for making you recognize the high costs of liberalism in your state is typical liberalism. Glad too see that finally happening. Now send the Withholding cut back as well.

 

[Conservative]

as I said in post 654 IF the Blue states didn't have to keep paying for the Red states they could lower their state taxes
and for your info the Blue states have been subsidizing the red states for MANY MANY YEARS and that was even with deducting state taxes.
and that is a FACT
Have a nice night

You are as knowledgeable about this issue as everything else you post, a real indictment against the education system in your state. Feel really sorry for people filled with such hatred for Republicans out of ignorance.

Why should you pay less in FIT to fund the items in Post 651 because of your high state and local taxes?

 

[Conservative]

as I said in post 654 IF the Blue states didn't have to keep paying for the Red states they could lower their state taxes
and for your info the Blue states have been subsidizing the red states for MANY MANY YEARS and that was even with deducting state taxes.
and that is a FACT
Have a nice night

Oh by the way there is a solution to your problem with taxes, vote Republican and lower your state and local taxes so that you can fully benefit from the Trump tax cuts? Continue to vote for Democrats, pay high state and local taxes so you don't get full benefit from the Trump tax cuts.

 

[Conservative]

My federal taxes increase became the 2018 law limits state and local taxes to $10,000 and I pay more.

Have a great suggestion for you, vote for a Republican and have your state and local taxes reduced therefore benefiting fully from the Trump tax cuts. Isn't it about time you realized that state and local taxes shouldn't be fully deducted from your federal return? My deductions aren't close to yours because I don't have the high state and local taxes. About time you recognized the cost of liberalism which isn't free

 

[Tbird19482]

Post 651, about damn time you paid your fair share of FIT after deducting high state and local taxes from your federal return for years.

here is some reading for you maybe you can learn something but I don't think you will

Google Search

What would happen if blue states stopped paying for red states? - MinnPost

A recent Rockefeller Institute study makes clear how much money flows out of Democratic-leaning states into Republican-leaning ones.

www.minnpost.com

Over the past five years, the report finds, “New York taxpayers have given $142.6 billion more to the federal government than New York residents have received back in federal spending.” That’s the biggest gap of any state.

142.6 BILLION in 5 years and in 2019 it was over 22 Billion and states like KY got 2.15 dollars back for every dollar they sent the Federal Gov.
KY depends on that money to balance their state budget , it is about time they started paying for what their state spends NOT New Yorker's we have enough to pay for for our own state we don't need to pay for them too.
and like this link says McConnell wants to stop any Blue state bailouts but he wants the Blue states to keep paying for his state so they don't have to pay higher state taxes for what they want

Mitch McConnell wants to prevent a 'blue state bailout' of stimulus money. But Kentucky takes more from the federal government than almost any other state.

Kentucky has a bigger balance than 47 other states from the 2015 fiscal year through 2018, according to the Rockefeller Institute of Government.

www.businessinsider.com

Have a good night

 

[Conservative]

here is some reading for you maybe you can learn something but I don't think you will

Google Search

What would happen if blue states stopped paying for red states? - MinnPost

A recent Rockefeller Institute study makes clear how much money flows out of Democratic-leaning states into Republican-leaning ones.

www.minnpost.com

Over the past five years, the report finds, “New York taxpayers have given $142.6 billion more to the federal government than New York residents have received back in federal spending.” That’s the biggest gap of any state.

142.6 BILLION in 5 years and in 2019 it was over 22 Billion and states like KY got 2.15 dollars back for every dollar they sent the Federal Gov.
KY depends on that money to balance their state budget , it is about time they started paying for what their state spends NOT New Yorker's we have enough to pay for for our own state we don't need to pay for them too.
and like this link says McConnell wants to stop any Blue state bailouts but he wants the Blue states to keep paying for his state so they don't have to pay higher state taxes for what they want

Mitch McConnell wants to prevent a 'blue state bailout' of stimulus money. But Kentucky takes more from the federal government than almost any other state.

Kentucky has a bigger balance than 47 other states from the 2015 fiscal year through 2018, according to the Rockefeller Institute of Government.

www.businessinsider.com

Have a good night

Well then that isn't a problem for you since you weren't paying enough in FIT thus none of it was going to the red states according to you. It is stunning ignorance equating FITgoing to the federal gov't with federal expense dollars for Congressional programs and federal expenses going back to the states. Have you ever talked to your Democrat Representatives to stop the flow of cash to the Red states and of course the blue supporters in those states? Of course not because you are clueless on this issue, biased, partisan liberal who just hates Republicans because you cannot face the failures in your own life so you have to blame someone else.

 

[Tbird19482]

Well then that isn't a problem for you since you weren't paying enough in FIT thus none of it was going to the red states according to you. It is stunning ignorance equating FITgoing to the federal gov't with federal expense dollars for Congressional programs and federal expenses going back to the states. Have you ever talked to your Democrat Representatives to stop the flow of cash to the Red states and of course the blue supporters in those states? Of course not because you are clueless on this issue, biased, partisan liberal who just hates Republicans because you cannot face the failures in your own life so you have to blame someone else.

OH I was paying way too much and now after Trumps so called tax cut I am paying even more
I wonder if people ever realized that he took away the Personal exemption and some of them like me are paying more in FIT.
Here again you can see where 8 states pay more in them they get back and 6 out of those 8 are Blue states

Balance of Payments Portal – Rockefeller Institute of Government

rockinst.org

and as I said IF states like KY / VA / WVA would pay for they state government budgets and not those 8 states the people in those 8 states would be able to keep more of their money spend it in their states and not only generate jobs in their state but it would increase the revenue coming into their state coffers to cover their budget and they may be able to cut their tax state taxes
have a nice night

 

[Conservative]

OH I was paying way too much and now after Trumps so called tax cut I am paying even more

Good about time you paid your fair share and stopped deducting your high state and local taxes from your federal return, why should that be legal?

I wonder if people ever realized that he took away the Personal exemption and some of them like me are paying more in FIT.

you along with other high state taxed liberals seem to be the only ones complaining. Did you send your withholding tax cut back?

Here again you can see where 8 states pay more in them they get back and 6 out of those 8 are Blue states

Still don't get it do you, why don't you get your DEMOCRAT Congress person to stop sending tax dollars to Red states and then tell people in those states that support Democrats why they aren't getting things like Pell grants

and as I said IF states like KY / VA / WVA would pay for they state government budgets and not those 8 states the people in those 8 states would be able to keep more of their money spend it in their states and not only generate jobs in their state but it would increase the revenue coming into their state coffers to cover their budget and they may be able to cut their tax state taxes
have a nice night

What an embarrassment, cannot believe how poorly educated members of the left are making this a big issue. Funds going back to the states are for federal mandates and expenses that don't go to political parties but to individuals who meet federal requirements. You aren't going to get any Democrat to support your request of stopping sending money to the states as those buy votes mostly Democrat votes. Keep making this an issue showing how easy it is to indoctrinate people with liberal lies. Makes great print but destroys credibility

 

[watsup]

As I thought, you expect to deduct your high state and local taxes from your federal return. About time you realized how expensive liberalism is, thank you Trump for showing people that reality even though they don't get it and blame Trump. Why do you believe your state and local taxes should be deducted from your federal taxes which are used to pay for the discretionary budget, the following line items

Busting 5 Myths About Government Discretionary Spending

Current discretionary spending is $1.485 trillion for FY 2021. This budget pays for programs such as defense, education, and NASA.

www.thebalance.com

NASA
Dept of Defense
HHS
Education
VA
Homeland Security
Energy Dept
HUD
State Dept	1

Did you even read this link that you posted? It says that we should NOT cut foreign aid, that we need to quit spending so much on the military, and that lowering entitlements won’t affect the budget that much. Do you as a right winger agree with any of this??????

 

[Greenbeard]

Then why are you supporting Biden and why are you in the 37% that support his economic performance?

Because Biden's performance on jobs and economic growth is light years ahead of his predecessor.

 

[Conservative]

Because Biden's performance on jobs and economic growth is light years ahead of his predecessor.

How is life in fantasy land

 

[MTAtech]

How is life in fantasy land

You are the one who claims your respect numbers. The numbers are indisputably. Trump was president from 2017-2020. Growth under Biden is the best since 1984. That means it was better than 2017-2020.

 

[Kushinator]

You are the one who claims your respect numbers. The numbers are indisputably. Trump was president from 2017-2020. Growth under Biden is the best since 1984. That means it was better than 2017-2020.

What about dollar growth? Nominal GDP grew by $2.1 trillion for 2021. The entire Trump Presidency had nGDP growth of $2.2 trillion.

 

[Conservative]

You are the one who claims your respect numbers. The numbers are indisputably. Trump was president from 2017-2020. Growth under Biden is the best since 1984. That means it was better than 2017-2020.

Yes that is true, 2017-2019 policy results, 2020 pandemic results.. Policy results 7 million new jobs, 900 billion dollars per year in GDP dollar growth, historic and record high state and local revenue due to consumer spending from the tax cuts. Pandemic results, Project Warp Speed thus a vaccine, reimbursement for Covid 19 expenses in the state. bipartisan economic shutdown to stop the spread of the virus.

You and all other liberals gave lip service to the economic shutdown claiming you wanted the shutdown to stop the spread of the virus when the reality is you knew the numbers would be bad and you then could blame Trump for poor economic performance. Democrats weaponized Covid using it to put an incompetent in the WH, an incompetent that now has a 37% approval rating on the economy and 40% overall job approval rating, an incompetent taking credit for Red state unemployment numbers, economic performance, and policies. No problem, right MTA, now we get a Red Wave in November to cleanup the mess Biden is creating or at least stopping him from making it worse

 

[code1211]

When you look at the large number of early retirees and women who dropped out of the workforce to stay at home with young children, it becomes less mysterious. There were about 3 million early retirees due to the pandemic, and about the same number for women. I would venture to guess that those who left the workforce made this decision with some idea of how they were going to provide for themselves. In the case of early retirees, that's a bit more straightforward; for women it's a bit more of a mixed bag. Anecdotally, some of my wife's friends have done precisely that and because their husbands can afford to maintain the family. There are two we know who took consultant roles which were fully remote and had flexible hours.

For those who have found that they can live well in a single income household, that's terrific!

For early retirees, that is also terrific.

Overall, since 2019, our population is up by about 5 million and the workforce is down by more than 2 million.

Also, job openings are way up compared to the averages over the last ten or so years.

We must be in a transitioning economy at least as regards employment. I like the idea of more stay at home moms.

US Population by Month - Multpl

US Population table by month, historic, and current data. Current US Population is 342.41 million.

www.multpl.com

Employment Situation News Release - 2021 M13 Results

www.bls.gov

United States Job Openings

Job Offers in the United States decreased to 7181 Thousand in July from 7357 Thousand in June of 2025. This page provides the latest reported value for - United States Job Openings - plus previous releases, historical high and low, short-term forecast and long-term prediction, economic calendar...

tradingeconomics.com

 

[MTAtech]

Yes that is true, 2017-2019 policy results, 2020 pandemic results.. Policy results 7 million new jobs, 900 billion dollars per year in GDP dollar growth, historic and record high state and local revenue due to consumer spending from the tax cuts. Pandemic results, Project Warp Speed thus a vaccine, reimbursement for Covid 19 expenses in the state. bipartisan economic shutdown to stop the spread of the virus.

You and all other liberals gave lip service to the economic shutdown claiming you wanted the shutdown to stop the spread of the virus when the reality is you knew the numbers would be bad and you then could blame Trump for poor economic performance. Democrats weaponized Covid using it to put an incompetent in the WH, an incompetent that now has a 37% approval rating on the economy and 40% overall job approval rating, an incompetent taking credit for Red state unemployment numbers, economic performance, and policies. No problem, right MTA, now we get a Red Wave in November to cleanup the mess Biden is creating or at least stopping him from making it worse

There you go again, conveniently forgetting that Trump was president for four years, not three. Trump doesn't get a pass because he had a pandemic -- just like Obama doesn't get a pass because he was given a recession by Bush. According to Wiki, Trump LOST three million jobs during his presidency.

With regard to:

You and all other liberals gave lip service to the economic shutdown claiming you wanted the shutdown to stop the spread of the virus when the reality is you knew the numbers would be bad and you then could blame Trump for poor economic performance.

Countries around the world were shutting down. I guess they also wanted to make Trump look bad? But this line of yours isn't new. Whenever you use it, mine is the standard reply. An additional point: Trump was not blameless with respect to the pandemic. He used his wishful thinking, pretending it wasn't a problem. His downplaying quotes are widely available and legendary.

 

[Conservative]

There you go again, conveniently forgetting that Trump was president for four years, not three. Trump doesn't get a pass because he had a pandemic -- just like Obama doesn't get a pass because he was given a recession by Bush. According to Wiki, Trump LOST three million jobs during his presidency.

Trump didn't lose them, he created 7 million NEW ones, the pandemic caused the job losses but do what you always do ignore liberal results and sell the typical liberal bs. And oh by the way, Obama had a Democrat Congress when he took office and a stimulus plan on his desk just like Biden, Results so similar, results that you want to ignore

With regard to:

Countries around the world were shutting down. I guess they also wanted to make Trump look bad? But this line of yours isn't new. Whenever you use it, mine is the standard reply. An additional point: Trump was not blameless with respect to the pandemic. He used his wishful thinking, pretending it wasn't a problem. His downplaying quotes are widely available and legendary.

Countries around the world are dependent on Gov't spending for their economies, we AREN'T, a fact that you want to ignore. We have a private sector economy, so sorry you were incapable of competing in it thus needing that massive nanny state as a parent and provider. Keep spreading the liberal lies and distortions and watch history repeat itself. Want to be on how many House and Senate seats the Republicans gain in November?

I know this is hard for radicals to understand but the man who supposedly got 81 million votes in November now has a 41% job approval rating, a 37% approval rating on the economy and 27% approval on the direction of the country. Your loyalty to liberalism defies logic, common sense and the facts

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Biden Job Approval

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Biden Job Approval

www.realclearpolitics.com

 

[ElChupacabra]

For those who have found that they can live well in a single income household, that's terrific!

For early retirees, that is also terrific.

Overall, since 2019, our population is up by about 5 million and the workforce is down by more than 2 million.

Also, job openings are way up compared to the averages over the last ten or so years.

We must be in a transitioning economy at least as regards employment. I like the idea of more stay at home moms.

US Population by Month - Multpl

US Population table by month, historic, and current data. Current US Population is 342.41 million.

www.multpl.com

Employment Situation News Release - 2021 M13 Results

www.bls.gov

United States Job Openings

Job Offers in the United States decreased to 7181 Thousand in July from 7357 Thousand in June of 2025. This page provides the latest reported value for - United States Job Openings - plus previous releases, historical high and low, short-term forecast and long-term prediction, economic calendar...

tradingeconomics.com

I haven't delved deeply into the stats around gig workers, but what I do know is that group's data isn't tracked that cleanly, so it's quite possible they are a part of the reason the gap in the workforce stats. To my understanding gig workers are counted in BLS stats, but as part of the larger group of workers who are self employed or part time, so it's not parsed out in a way that's useful from an analysis perspective.

In terms of general stats that I've seen, there are about 59m gig workers of which 17.1m have this form of work as their primary work. What's interesting in the link I've provided is that this form of work pays less than being a full time employee on average, so clearly those choosing it aren't making this decision purely on financial criteria.

 

[highroller]

How is life in fantasy land

Facts don’t care about your feelinags.

 

[rahl]

"never underestimate Joe biden's ability to f""" things up' BArry O

Thank you for again admitting it isn’t Biden’s fault nor can he make it worse.