Gazan Sob Stories du jour in daily papers - But no pressure on Gaza to "stop the war."

[JBG]

The Trauma of Childhood in Gaza- Over the past two years, tens of thousands of children in the territory have been killed, wounded or orphaned. Childhood as they once knew it has ceased to exist.
(link) Excerpts below:

To numb the traumas of wartime Gaza, Rahma Abu Abed, 12, plays a game with her friends. They ask one another: What did you eat before the war? What did your home look like before the war? What would you wear if you had new clothes?
For Rahma, who recounted these details in an interview alongside her mother, Heba, the answers are often less soothing than tragic. She hasn’t eaten meat in months, her parents said. Her home in southern Gaza has been flattened, satellite imagery shows. Her clothes are mostly under the rubble. The beach, where her parents occasionally took her as a treat before the war, has become her full-time home.
Rahma now lives in a storehouse for fishing equipment with her parents and four siblings, who share the space with several displaced families. She usually eats one meal a day, often lentils or pasta, her parents said. Trying to remember what good food looked like, Rahma plays with the wet sand, shaping it into imaginary meals.

And the NY Times "quote of the day" (same link)

“If someone gave me a choice between crayons and bread, I would choose the bread.” - RAHMA ABU ABED, a 12-year-old girl in Gaza who has little to eat and lost her home.

Just about every day the New York Times publishes a heart-rending sob story about live in Gaza. Apparently they don't think the loser of a war they started and could never win ever has a responsibility, for the sake of humanity, to surrender. The totally inhuman German and Japanese governments surrendered. Hamas needs to as well. And most importantly the "world" needs to stop nurturing false hopes that six million Israelis will return to a Diaspora that will not accept them.

The "world" accepts only basket cases, not productive people. Imagine how much better off the world would have been if they welcomed rather than persecuted Jews almost to the post of extinction.

 

[The Brad Dad]

The Trauma of Childhood in Gaza- Over the past two years, tens of thousands of children in the territory have been killed, wounded or orphaned. Childhood as they once knew it has ceased to exist.
(link) Excerpts below:

And the NY Times "quote of the day" (same link)


Just about every day the New York Times publishes a heart-rending sob story about live in Gaza. Apparently they don't think the loser of a war they started and could never win ever has a responsibility, for the sake of humanity, to surrender. The totally inhuman German and Japanese governments surrendered. Hamas needs to as well. And most importantly the "world" needs to stop nurturing false hopes that six million Israelis will return to a Diaspora that will not accept them.

The "world" accepts only basket cases, not productive people. Imagine how much better off the world would have been if they welcomed rather than persecuted Jews almost to the post of extinction.

Zero jews have been persecuted to the point of extinction during the Israeli government's genocide of Gaza.

 

[JBG]

Zero jews have been persecuted to the point of extinction during the Israeli government's genocide of Gaza.

So? They have been over history.

 

[The Brad Dad]

So? They have been over history.

Ohhh you weren't referring to anything actually happening, just, like, history and stuff. Unlike the Palestinians, who have had a wonderful time.

 

[Felis Leo]

The Trauma of Childhood in Gaza- Over the past two years, tens of thousands of children in the territory have been killed, wounded or orphaned. Childhood as they once knew it has ceased to exist.
(link) Excerpts below:

And the NY Times "quote of the day" (same link)


Just about every day the New York Times publishes a heart-rending sob story about live in Gaza. Apparently they don't think the loser of a war they started and could never win ever has a responsibility, for the sake of humanity, to surrender. The totally inhuman German and Japanese governments surrendered. Hamas needs to as well. And most importantly the "world" needs to stop nurturing false hopes that six million Israelis will return to a Diaspora that will not accept them.

The "world" accepts only basket cases, not productive people. Imagine how much better off the world would have been if they welcomed rather than persecuted Jews almost to the post of extinction.

There is no “War” in Gaza. It is a military campaign waged against the civilian population unable to fight back or resist with some Islamist militants peppered in, but it is not a war.

It is as much a “war” as a man raining down punches on a baby in a crib could reasonably be described as a “fight”.

 

[Integrityrespec]

The Trauma of Childhood in Gaza- Over the past two years, tens of thousands of children in the territory have been killed, wounded or orphaned. Childhood as they once knew it has ceased to exist.
(link) Excerpts below:

And the NY Times "quote of the day" (same link)


Just about every day the New York Times publishes a heart-rending sob story about live in Gaza. Apparently they don't think the loser of a war they started and could never win ever has a responsibility, for the sake of humanity, to surrender. The totally inhuman German and Japanese governments surrendered. Hamas needs to as well. And most importantly the "world" needs to stop nurturing false hopes that six million Israelis will return to a Diaspora that will not accept them.

The "world" accepts only basket cases, not productive people. Imagine how much better off the world would have been if they welcomed rather than persecuted Jews almost to the post of extinction.

I guess the trauma experienced by children during WWII in Europe and the Pacific was the fault of allies fighting against Germany, Italy, and Japan as they terrorized half the globe, including millions of Jews in Europe. Across the globe tens of millions died, with the majority being civilians because the allies fought?

 

[The Brad Dad]

I guess the trauma experienced by children during WWII in Europe and the Pacific was the fault of allies fighting against Germany, Italy, and Japan as they terrorized half the globe, including millions of Jews in Europe. Across the globe tens of millions died, with the majority being civilians because the allies fought?

I guess I missed the part in school where WW2 was one giant nuclear tipped nation against a group of refugees in a tiny section of territory the giant nuclear tipped nation controls.

 

[coyote505]

Zero jews have been persecuted to the point of extinction during the Israeli government's genocide of Gaza.

Sounds like a successful survival strategy for Israelis.

 

[The Brad Dad]

Sounds like a successful survival strategy for Israelis.

Genocide? Probably not. My guess is they've created any number of future Oct 7th's that folks will in turn demand more Palestinian bloodshed to guarantee no more Oct 7ths, which then will create more....

 

[Felis Leo]

Sounds like a successful survival strategy for Israelis.

Yes. Kind of like how a fox killing all the chickens in the hen house is a successful “survival strategy” for the fox. The fox got those chickens before the chickens got that fox.

 

[bomberfox]

Check out the Dahiya doctrine and this war makes more sense.

 

[Felis Leo]

Check out the Dahiya doctrine and this war makes more sense.

Yeah. It is pretty damn awful.

Dahiya doctrine - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Hard to argue that much of anything Israel does anymore is defensive.

 

[StillBallin75]

Lol imagine being so ****ing delusional as to think the New York Times is overly in favor of the Palestinians (which EVERYONE should be) as opposed to what has actually been, which to date has been a vehicle for Zionist propaganda and laughably uses passive or exonerative voice excessively when talking about any of the evil shit Israel does.

 

[Tigerace117]

The Trauma of Childhood in Gaza- Over the past two years, tens of thousands of children in the territory have been killed, wounded or orphaned. Childhood as they once knew it has ceased to exist.
(link) Excerpts below:

And the NY Times "quote of the day" (same link)


Just about every day the New York Times publishes a heart-rending sob story about live in Gaza. Apparently they don't think the loser of a war they started and could never win ever has a responsibility, for the sake of humanity, to surrender. The totally inhuman German and Japanese governments surrendered. Hamas needs to as well. And most importantly the "world" needs to stop nurturing false hopes that six million Israelis will return to a Diaspora that will not accept them.

The "world" accepts only basket cases, not productive people. Imagine how much better off the world would have been if they welcomed rather than persecuted Jews almost to the post of extinction.

Sounds like Israel should stop committing a borderline genocide if they don’t want people reporting on it.

 

[Tigerace117]

I guess the trauma experienced by children during WWII in Europe and the Pacific was the fault of allies fighting against Germany, Italy, and Japan as they terrorized half the globe, including millions of Jews in Europe. Across the globe tens of millions died, with the majority being civilians because the allies fought?

Funny how the “but World War Two” standard only seems to apply to to Israel bombing people and not Israel being bombed.

“October 7th” was a slow Tuesday morning during World War Two.

 

[Felis Leo]

Sounds like Israel should stop committing a borderline genocide if they don’t want people reporting on it.

I mean, Israel’s genocide of the Palestinians really is not “borderline” at this point. It is simply an ongoing genocide. In the same manner as the Nazis rounding up Jews into the Polish Ghettos and subjecting them to both summary individual and mass-executions, forced malnutrition and disease was a genocide. It just ramped up after December 1941 and the construction of the first extermination camps.

 

[JBG]

I guess I missed the part in school where WW2 was one giant nuclear tipped nation against a group of refugees in a tiny section of territory the giant nuclear tipped nation controls.

I am too stupid to understand your post. Can you clarify?

 

[JBG]

I mean, Israel’s genocide of the Palestinians really is not “borderline” at this point. It is simply an ongoing genocide. In the same manner as the Nazis rounding up Jews into the Polish Ghettos and subjecting them to both summary individual and mass-executions, forced malnutrition and disease was a genocide. It just ramped up after December 1941 and the construction of the first extermination camps.

Was October 7 genocide? Hint, the targets were only civilian. And the festival-goers hurt no one.

 

[Tigerace117]

Was October 7 genocide? Hint, the targets were only civilian. And the festival-goers hurt no one.

Uh…..no, they weren’t. Hamas hit multiple security forces targets on October 7th.

 

[Felis Leo]

Was October 7 genocide? Hint, the targets were only civilian. And the festival-goers hurt no one.

Yes. I consider it a genocidal act.

 

[Felis Leo]

Was October 7 genocide? Hint, the targets were only civilian. And the festival-goers hurt no one.

By the way, the targets were not "only" civilian, JBG. Not even the Israelis claim that. Hundreds of those who died that day were active IDF and security personnel; 379 if Google is correct. So if we are going by Israeli numbers, we are dealing with a 1 to 2 military to civilian kill ratio. Which is head and shoulders above Israel's military campaign, which appears to be at least 4 civilians for every militant killed.

 

[bomberfox]

At this point hamas has no choice but to surrender.

 

[Tigerace117]

At this point hamas has no choice but to surrender.

“Surrender” would be pointless, as Israel would simply keep murdering Palestinian civilians regardless.

 

[Felis Leo]

At this point hamas has no choice but to surrender.

I think from what we have seen from Israel's behavior these last two years, it really would not matter if Hamas did surrender. If every Hamas member laid down their arms, I would bet dollars to donuts that the Israeli government and military would just say that Hamas did not actually surrender and that they have it on good intelligence that Hamas is still active within the Gaza Strip and would continue their extermination and starvation campaign apace.

 

[JBG]

I think from what we have seen from Israel's behavior these last two years, it really would not matter if Hamas did surrender. If every Hamas member laid down their arms, I would bet dollars to donuts that the Israeli government and military would just say that Hamas did not actually surrender and that they have it on good intelligence that Hamas is still active within the Gaza Strip and would continue their extermination and starvation campaign apace.

Which indeed would be likely. The Palestinians need to accept the fact that they fought the war in fits and starts beginning with Israeli independence and have lost resoundingly each time. They don’t get victory by continuing to massacre their own people.