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Yes, I do, but biology has nothing to do with it. Marriage is a human concept, and I would argue that part of the beauty of being sentient, self-aware, intelligent beings is the ability to realise that science is not the be all and end all of everything, thoughts, feeling and desires are there aswell. If two human men, or women love each other, as a man and a woman might, then should they not have the ability to partake in the human concept of marriage? Just as their heterosexual counterparts can?

I am not saying gay marriage should be forced upon religions...if a particular church do not believe in it, thats their choice. But a government has no reason for illegalising it.
 
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It also has no reason FOR legalizing it. Single people pay higher taxes, the gov't would lose money there. Also, you don't create legislation to appease the few, it's a waste of time & money. On the flipside, Being that all of the places it was put up for a vote, the pro side got Crushed at the polls, you might say that by illegalizing it, the government created legislation to appease the masses.
 
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I would say treating people equally, homo- or hetero-sexual, is good reason enough.
 
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Let's keep the personal attacks out of this forum

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As long as there are people arguing the fact, you'll never win, as you will always be in the minority.

I would beg to differ...and I cite this post as my source. Along with it, I cite the entire gay marriage forum in the archives. If this is any kind of sampling of opinion...and you believe me to be in the minority with my opinion...then you also need to go back to dictionary.com and look up the definition of minority...but I am sure you would be just as selective about that definition also. Your credibility has
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Why,why not?
What's your thoughts?
 
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First, beg to differ from what? Second, You're using a forum (where it looks to me about 2/3rds of the people on it are Dem/lib) that has less than 2000 members....and only 600 or so are active. It doesn't really help your case to do so, it's like looking at one of those job approval ratings for the president where they only asked 1000 people what they think. The popular vote proved just the opposite a year ago.

Have no idea what the definition of minority has to do with this. If you're citing the thing about having a distinctive presence, a fly has a distinctive presence in an elephant's ass too....so what?

(In jest) Finally, my credibility has exploded...good, so that means you agree with me, right? As in everyone's going to be on my side? That's the way I took it...population explosion....explosion of information/knowledge....my credibility has exploded, that's excellent!
 
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ILikeDubyah said:
First, beg to differ from what? Second, You're using a forum (where it looks to me about 2/3rds of the people on it are Dem/lib) that has less than 2000 members....and only 600 or so are active.
Here's the breakdown of people who have listed affiliation:
Conservatives: 66
Constitutionalists: 1
Independents: 29
Liberal/Progressives: 33
Libertarians: 5
Socialists: 5
 
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shuamort said:
Here's the breakdown of people who have listed affiliation:
Conservatives: 66
Constitutionalists: 1
Independents: 29
Liberal/Progressives: 33
Libertarians: 5
Socialists: 5


Wow, never would have guessed that...guess the libs are either just really loud, or come here & post more often.
 
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ILikeDubyah said:
Wow, never would have guessed that...guess the libs are either just really loud, or come here & post more often.

Or you just blew something out of proportion to make a point...
 
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Kelzie said:
Or you just blew something out of proportion to make a point...

He may have blown something out of proportion, but did he make any real point?
 
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shuamort said:
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Ok, true, that was a little underhanded, but my only apology is that I took my indignation out as an observation of Ilikedubyah's outright deceit when I should have turned the offense toward this:

Another liberal spits on the legitimate minorities by comparing behavior to race.All behavior is controllable.No body points a gun at your head and tells you to be a fudge packer. Jamesrage

But let me not split hairs over the issue of impartiality...
 
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Kelzie said:
Or you just blew something out of proportion to make a point...

Its also possible that he is simply the underbelly of conservativism and represents only the far extreme that makes the whole group look bad.
 
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Unfortunately, I'm not omnipresent.... yet.... Feel free to click on the "report post button in the interim:

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But let me not split hairs over the issue of impartiality...
Now, I'm curious, where am I being impartial? You do realize that I'm the "gay moderator", right?
 
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HAHA, the GAY moderator? I did not realize that actually. I have read very few of you posts in all honesty. Forgive my hotheadedness then. I also now appreciate your impartiality in making your judgement by not teaming up with the other gay. :doh
 
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LMAO!!! Have you been to dictionary.com? there is NO MENTION of same sex. The only other dictionaries I have access to are an un-abridged and published in 1900....what do you know, not in there either.

Yes, I have been there. Specifically, http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=marriage The definition, 1 d is, "A union between two persons having the customary but usually not the legal force of marriage: a same-sex marriage"

So, I guess the question should be, have you been to dictionary.com?


People's beliefs affect the way people act. There is no denying that. However, there has always been a seperation between the laws that govern this country and religion. Are you aware that there is no mention of god in the Constitution? Or that the only mention in religion is the guarantee of the freedom of religion.


So, your duty is to judge others? I didn't think that was proper in your belief system. Hmm, I guess I learned something.


The majority of all people in this country "don't have/won't ever get or have anything to do with aids". So, what's your point?

And, can you give a source for how much the Catholic Church gives to AIDS research.


So, you think that it's alright for the majority to trample the rights of the minority?


Does this mean that you won't concern yourself about the people devestated by the hurricane? Or any of the people who need help around the world if you don't know them? Wonderful Christian attidude.
 
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this is endless and pointless. Basically Gays as well as straight have THE RIGHT to their sexual prefernce. To gay bashers: Do gays hurt you? Why do you care about gays? Simply...what they do is none of ur business plus it does no harm. SO LEAVE THEM ALONE.
 
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The problem with your statement is in the fact that the religious majority is never content to allow others to be different. There is a reason they call their followers sheep. Stupidity and obedience are traits they look for. Which brings me to my point. The whole reason I'm drawn to this thread is because it is a religious issue not political. There is no political reason to deny gays equal rights. Unless, of course, you base your political views on that well know book of fiction.

It will be a constant attempt to remove the speck from the eyes of others citing their differences as sin. More and more people are making a stand against those with planks in their eyes. As a result those who consider themselves the righteous whine about being oppressed because not everyone share their views and they press their attacks on the rights and values of others.

History has shown this to be a repeating occurrence. The roman empire, the wholesale slaughter of the Jews , the enslavement of colored men and the persecution that followed the emancipation, Japanese imperialism, and the dening homosexuals their equal civil rights to name a few. All using religion to justify their deeds. All relying on superior military or domestic power to enforce. All, in the end, morally wrong.

Christians who started as the oppressed , learned the leasons well, and have become the oppresors.

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