Boo Radley
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Looks like the liberal news source Reuters was a litttle premature in calling this a done deal.
Gay-marriage supporters across the country celebrated clear victories in three states Wednesday, but a measure in Washington remained too close to call.
Ref. 74 supporters hanging on to hopes of a victory | Local News | The Seattle Times
I'm with those supporting more freedom and not those seeking to limit freedom.
Just to catch up, they would need 54 percent of the estimated 1 million remaining ballots statewide, and more than a third of those are expected to come from King County.
Me too.................
It helps to read.
Looks like Reuters was a little premature on their call.
Originally published November 7, 2012 at 9:52 PM | Page modified November 8, 2012 at 9:30 AM
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[h=1]Ref. 74 supporters hanging on to hopes of a victory[/h]Gay-marriage supporters across the country celebrated clear victories in three states Wednesday, but a measure in Washington remained too close to call.
Ref. 74 supporters hanging on to hopes of a victory | Local News | The Seattle Times
I don't think you understood my point, you said gay marriage would devalue straight marriage somehow, so my question is, isn't it already devalued by the mere fact that gay people around the country and around the world are getting married?So far as I'm concerned the meaningful world drops off sharply at the US Border, so what people in other countries do is none of my concern or worry. Life is not about joy or happimess. It never has been and never will be.
What are you talking about?A word of caution.... wave that red cape in front of the bull long enough you might just get the horns.
okI'm already an outcast. That happened at the moment of my birth due to physical issues and has simply continued with philosophical, emotional, and psychological ones as well. It's nothing new, and in fact something that I relish to a certain degree. I'll take my principles to my grave, even if they're what sends me there.
I love the smell of homophobia and misogyny in the morning.Sorry, but you cannot FORCE me to accept ANYTHING. You can make it very unpleasant for me not to, but you cannot FORCE it upon me. Ask the two banks I no longer do business with because they do not have any MALE tellers on their staff.
I don't think you understood my point, you said gay marriage would devalue straight marriage somehow, so my question is, isn't it already devalued by the mere fact that gay people around the country and around the world are getting married?
I love the smell of homophobia and misogyny in the morning.
Life is not about joy or happimess. It never has been and never will be.
Me too.................
You think denying rights is supporting more freedom. Go on . . . .
I don't think you are going to find many here who believes you.
And for those that do,I have a very nice bridge in Brooklyn I can sell to them dirt cheap
I'm with those supporting more freedom and not those seeking to limit freedom.
Okay forget the rest of the world, I just want an answer to my question. You seemed quite worried about the value of your marriage or of straight marriage in general in this country. So do you consider it already devalued or not?I understood it quite well. What I was attempting to explain is that so far as I'm concerned the rest of the world doesn't exist, so what they do in Germany, Spain, Japan, Brazil, Canada, etc... has no bearing (positive or negative) on the issue for me.
No I think all Americans should have equal rights and they do....I am just against changing the definition of marriage, be it for Gays. Polygamy, inter family, etc.
That is where we differ....I am for everyone having the same freedoms.
Okay forget the rest of the world, I just want an answer to my question. You seemed quite worried about the value of your marriage or of straight marriage in general in this country. So do you consider it already devalued or not?
I do believe that it has been devalued to a degree, by the quickie marriage, the ease of divorce, and the general degredation of the ideals of marriage. However, I do believe that those things can (and should) be remedied through appropriate legislation and societal changes because they are simply tweaks that need to be made to adjust the system back closer to what it used to be, and still should be. Once we cross the barrier of gender, there's really no chance that we can ever undo that mistake.
Let's say more and more states legalize gay marriage (hell maybe even all states), and I'm assuming you are married (if not's let's hypothetically say you are):I do believe that it has been devalued to a degree, by the quickie marriage, the ease of divorce, and the general degredation of the ideals of marriage. However, I do believe that those things can (and should) be remedied through appropriate legislation and societal changes because they are simply tweaks that need to be made to adjust the system back closer to what it used to be, and still should be. Once we cross the barrier of gender, there's really no chance that we can ever undo that mistake.
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Thanks for the update........We will see what the SCOTUS says..........Did you happen to notice the breakdown by county? 31 Reject 9 Approve........One county King its more far left then Disney Dude if that is possible.
The Washington State Secretary has reported that 100% of the votes on this are in from his official website. Same sex marriage will be legal in Washington come Dec. 6th.
Referendum Measure No. 74 Concerns marriage for same-sex couples
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