Gas leaf blower ban to take effect in Montgomery county Maryland

[Volunteer]

How about letting the voting public vote on all these green initiatives?

No, because the voting public doesn't understand them. They watch the mainstream media that runs misleading industry ads - that coal is clean, that fossil fuel pollution is ok to breathe, that global warming is being overblown or that it's China's fault, that renewable energy receives more taxpayer subsidies than oil and gas, that nuclear power is clean, safe, and efficient.

Millions of industry dollars are spent bombarding us with misinformation. And you want the public to make educated votes after being inundated with that bias?

 

[Helix]

Back when I was a kid, we used rakes. We had to make our own rakes out of mammoth ribs, too, and we were damned grateful for those ribs.

 

[Integrityrespec]

That’s a problem with representative government - once elected those representatives have the power to do as the majority of them please.

BTW, the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution requires the government to provide "just compensation" for the property taken. This compensation is typically the fair market value of the property.

I'm pretty sure the left thinks that "just compensation" is whatever they believe it's worth. Damn a professional appraisal for anything, like Mar A Lago. Democrats can't see the forest for the trees and their party is falling about.

Judge at Trump civil fraud trial implores media to stop saying he valued Mar-a-Lago at $18M

A judge deciding Donald Trump’s fate in a $250 million civil fraud case implored the media to stop saying he valued Mar-a-Lago at $18 million.

nypost.com

 

[Integrityrespec]

No, because the voting public doesn't understand them. They watch the mainstream media that runs misleading industry ads - that coal is clean, that fossil fuel pollution is ok to breathe, that global warming is being overblown or that it's China's fault, that renewable energy receives more taxpayer subsidies than oil and gas, that nuclear power is clean, safe, and efficient.

Millions of industry dollars are spent bombarding us with misinformation. And you want the public to make educated votes after being inundated with that bias?

And you get your information from where?
There is not and will never be enough "clean", energy to replace, oil, natural gas without the huge buy in to nuclear. Oops a dirty word. Replacement will take decades, and in the meantime the left go green, screws us all in costs. Without substantial government grants, the wind/solar initiative falls flat. It will never supply more than 15% of the needed energy and it's always going to shut down in bad weather.
A good energy program includes every source and in appropriate and managable amounts. Petroleum will not and can not be replaced. It's a left wing progressive pipe dream.
BTW, I have electric drills, saws, and electric weed eaters, because they are convenient for use away from a close electric outlet. Cutting weeds a hundred yards away from the house means I need the convenience instead of 5 extension cords.

 

[RF667799]

I use to have a gas model. The electric model is way less trouble.

I don't have to worry about if I have gas and I don't have to change the oil. And mine is just as strong as any gas model I've seen.

You had to change oil on a leaf blower? I've got three trimmers, a blower, and two chainsaws. All gas engines. I don't have to change oil on any of them, because they don't have an oil filled crankcase.

 

[Volunteer]

There is not and will never be enough "clean", energy to replace, oil, natural gas without the huge buy in to nuclear. Without substantial government grants, the wind/solar initiative falls flat.

Subsidies, tax credits, grants, and loan guarantees for oil and gas outweigh those for renewables. Without them we would be lucky to have $6.50/gal at the pump.
Nuclear power is on taxpayer life support. We need a transition away from, and not complete replacement, of polluting fuels, and to market pricing.

Renewables don't need subsidies. In a free market energy economy they would be cheaper. Plus, they kill fewer people.

 

[George50]

Incredibly stupid. Worried about mowers and trimmers and blowers and allow the rich, famous, and powerful politicians to fly all over the country in a private aircraft. Whose is getting screwed? Middle America who shouldn't have to pay ridiculous prices for EV's

?

Sounds like you may be operating on outdated information.

EVs were expensive at the beginning because they were mostly offered in luxury cars. Currently, the average price of a new car is about $48,000 according to Kelly Blue book. The Chevy Equinox EV starts for less than $34K and the upcoming Bolt expected to start at about $30K.

Not really ridiculous prices.

or electric mowers because somebody lies about the damage being done to the environment. The result is the government helps companies owned by their friends and then own stock in those companies.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I don't understand the point of this because @Chock Full o Nuts is in Indiana and the ban is in Montgomery County Maryland, where I grew up, by the way. (Bethesda)
Chocky, why do you even give a shit what MontGee County people voted for?

 

[George50]

And you get your information from where?
There is not and will never be enough "clean", energy to replace, oil, natural gas without the huge buy in to nuclear. Oops a dirty word. Replacement will take decades, and in the meantime the left go green, screws us all in costs
Without substantial government grants, the wind/solar initiative falls flat.

Really?

It will never supply more than 15% of the needed energy and it's always going to shut down in bad weather.

Interesting that you think that since wind and solar combined produced a record 17% of US electricity in 2024, overtaking coal at 15% for the first time.

Perhaps you are just out of date again?

As far as always going to shut down in bad weather goes, have you heard of batteries?

The rise of batteries​

California and Nevada both surpassed 30% annual share of solar in their electricity mix for the first time (32% and 30% respectively). California’s battery growth was key to its solar success. It installed 20% more battery capacity than it did solar capacity, which helped it transfer a significant share of its daytime solar to the evening. Nationwide, solar made up 81% of all new annual capacity additions, with a record increase of 31 GW at utility scale, supported by a record 10 GW of battery – equivalent to 1 GW of battery for every 3 GW of solar. Texas installed more solar (7.4 GW) and battery capacity (3.9 GW) than even California. Yet the growth of solar was uneven – 28 states generated less than 5% of their electricity from solar in 2024, highlighting significant untapped potential – even before adding battery storage.

US Electricity 2025 - Special Report | Ember

The US clean electricity transition continued as wind and solar generated more than coal for the first time. Electricity demand growth sped up and solar generation rose more quickly than gas to help meet it.

ember-energy.org

Texas is at 30%

Since 2019, Texas power firms have boosted solar generation capacity by 800%, wind capacity by 50% and battery storage capacity by an eye-popping 5,500%, according to energy data portal Cleanview, using EIA and state-level data.
In absolute terms, Texas has installed around 19,000 MW of solar, 14,000 MW of wind and 6,200 MW of battery capacity within the past five years.
Those installations have resulted in wind and solar farms generating roughly 30% of the state's electricity in 2024, according to Ember, which is up from a combined solar and wind share of around 18% in 2019.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/texas-tops-us-states-renewable-energy-battery-capacity-maguire-2025-01-09/

And you get your information from where?

A good energy program includes every source and in appropriate and managable amounts. Petroleum will not and can not be replaced. It's a left wing progressive pipe dream.
BTW, I have electric drills, saws, and electric weed eaters, because they are convenient for use away from a close electric outlet. Cutting weeds a hundred yards away from the house means I need the convenience instead of 5 extension cords.

 

[Steve Case]

I don't understand the point of this because @Chock Full o Nuts is in Indiana and the ban is in Montgomery County Maryland, where I grew up, by the way. (Bethesda)
Chocky, why do you even give a shit what MontGee County people voted for?

Because Leftist Insanity seem to spread. Mostly that's true of what California does, but not always.
The Leftist hordes rioting in California at the moment are certainly going to support the "Leaf Blower"
ban at some point in time, it's just a matter of when. Will it affect me? Probably not, but I don't like
the toilets in my house that don't do the job in one flush courtesy Leftist assholes.

 

[Chock Full o Nuts]

I don't understand the point of this because @Chock Full o Nuts is in Indiana and the ban is in Montgomery County Maryland, where I grew up, by the way. (Bethesda)

wife is from Indiana?

Chocky, why do you even give a shit what MontGee County people voted for?

I don't  really give a shit, but how many people here  really give a shit about things outside of their keyboard?

What about that guy that has a perfectly working gas blower, and now he has to go spend 300 on an equivalent and get his 50 dollar rebate?

Voters should have approved to have full cost replacement at county tax expense if you bring in your gas blower for destruction.

Bet half of 'yay' voters are curmudgeons and just don't like hearing a gas blower; don't give a shit about any environmental concerns.

When I hear a leaf blower,... oh, someone is blowing leaves.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

View attachment 67574545wife is from Indiana?

I don't  really give a shit, but how many people here  really give a shit about things outside of their keyboard?

What about that guy that has a perfectly working gas blower, and now he has to go spend 300 on an equivalent and get his 50 dollar rebate?

Voters should have approved to have full cost replacement at county tax expense if you bring in your gas blower for destruction.

Bet half of 'yay' voters are curmudgeons and just don't like hearing a gas blower; don't give a shit about any environmental concerns.

When I hear a leaf blower,... oh, someone is blowing leaves.

The ban on sales was over a year ago and guess what? You nailed it when you quoted a 300 dollar expense.
These days it can cost 300 bucks to do a one acre landscape job so one large lawn job pays the replacement cost of that aging two stroke gas leaf blower.
I'm sure landscapers can afford it and the majority of Mont-Gee county voters support the ban.

You're making a mountain out of a molehill.
Besides, I doubt Indiana will follow suit.

 

[multivita-man]

I hate those things. The racket they make is worse than a chainsaw.
But I don't think they ought to be banned by the government. Just shun that jerk neighbour who's spoiling a nice, pleasant Sunday afternoon.
Shun him! Shun him!

They also create a lot of emissions. The air smells awful around gas-powered blowers and mowers.