JumpinJack
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Ironic, isn't it? You can find out what's wrong with you, but the insurance won't actually pay for you to get treated for it. So...what's the point of an annual exam?
The fed didn't realize, I guess, that they need the cooperation of the medical community, in order to provide services.
Well, then I guess the only reasonable thing for the feds to do, is force them to provide services.(which will likely be what happens eventually, if I were to take a guess)
So...does that mean you get an annual exam ostensibly for "free" (ain't nothin' free, you know), but if they find cancer, you can't actually get treated for it? Is that what that means?
Oh, I wouldn't bet on that.You can't force anyone to provide a service. They can simply close up shop (they're rich) or change professions.
To get folks to want (demand?) UHC you must first destroy the "private" system. PPACA was designed to do that.
You can't force anyone to provide a service. They can simply close up shop (they're rich) or change professions.
You can't force anyone to provide a service. They can simply close up shop (they're rich) or change professions.
You do know that most people want universal single payer coverage, don't you? Even with full private coverage system? We're the only industrialized country in the world without it. And one of the least healthy.
You can't force anyone to provide a service. They can simply close up shop (they're rich) or change professions.
My understanding is that the free annual exam under the ACA covers zero treatment of any nature whatsoever except preventative things like flu shots. If you need treatment, you have to come back for a follow up and pay whatever it is you are required to pay under a normal doctor visits. That said, it really isn't a criticism of the ACA in particular. My existing non-ACA policy has the same "wellness visit" provisions as well and has for longer than the ACA has existed.
Yes you can.
We will do to Dr's what was done to all of us in Manufacturing.
Replace with cheap foreign criminals or outsource.
Revenge will be sweet...................
You do know that most people want universal single payer coverage, don't you? Even with full private coverage system? We're the only industrialized country in the world without it. And one of the least healthy.
No one forces Dow Chemical to manufacture products.
Hmmmm....I think you misunderstand. Oncologists are the doctors that treat for cancer. NO oncologists in my area, it seems, will be accepting ACA policies. A primary care physician or gynecologist doesn't treat cancer.
The preventive exam discovers that you might have cancer, among other things. THEN you to a specialist (oncologist) for it. But you can't actually go to an oncologist, unless you can foot the bill for cancer treatment out of your pocket. Because no oncologist will take that ACA insurance.
(Note: If you can pay for cancer treatment out of pocket, then you don't need to pay for insurance in the first place.)
I was responding to the question related to the annual exam not treatment, so no I did not misunderstand. Sorry but I seriously doubt no oncologist in all of Dallas will take any patients who have an exchange policy.
Now that you don't pay taxes you favor that idea even more.
I pay taxes. Everyone pays taxes. Ever since I became aware of the health systems of other countries, I have fully supported universal care. There's a reason other countries do it, and their citizens are healthier. Some of those countries have both a universal system and a private system. No one goes without health care. Which is a good thing. It's part of their national budget.
I pay taxes. Everyone pays taxes. Ever since I became aware of the health systems of other countries, I have fully supported universal care. There's a reason other countries do it, and their citizens are healthier. Some of those countries have both a universal system and a private system. No one goes without health care. Which is a good thing. It's part of their national budget.
Look for yourself. Go to ehealthinsurance.com. Put in my stats (over 50, F, no tobacco, 75220). Look at the two lowest plans (they're the same plan, just with the deductible and out of pocket flipped). Click on "Find A Provider." You get a cupie doll if you can spot "oncologist" listed.
Then go up and look at the two next highest plans (still bronze). These are PPOs, so have more providers. You get two cupie dolls if you can find an oncologist who will accept those plans.
Why would you doubt someone who is vigorously shopping and examining policies and provider lists to buy an individual policy?
Look for yourself. Go to ehealthinsurance.com. Put in my stats (over 50, F, no tobacco, 75220). Look at the two lowest plans (they're the same plan, just with the deductible and out of pocket flipped). Click on "Find A Provider." You get a cupie doll if you can spot "oncologist" listed.
Then go up and look at the two next highest plans (still bronze). These are PPOs, so have more providers. You get two cupie dolls if you can find an oncologist who will accept those plans.
It's possible that some oncologist will accept a high level plan, but that makes no difference to me, since there's no way I can get one of those.
Bear in mind that where I live, I have FIVE major hospitals with major medical groups within 10 miles of me. There is ONE gynecologist within 10 miles of me that will accept the two lowest plans. And that person isn't close to me. Since that is the only gyn that will accept the lowest plan, I'm guessing s/he is desperate for patients, and I would have a heck of a time getting an appointment, since everyone will have to go to that gyn. But no oncologist at all.
Eat the rich, thats sure to help.You can't force anyone to provide a service. They can simply close up shop (they're rich) or change professions.
Let me wrap my head around this thread. Conservatives have been griping that Obamacare mandates this and mandates that and forces one to pay for service one may not want. So the OP is griping now that the ACA mandates exams but doesn't mandate treatment.
Please figure out which side of the fence one wants to be on.
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