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V.I. Lenin said:China is not communist. China slaps the "communist" label on so people think they're happy utopian thinkers. China has never been communist, it is State-run capitalism and has created numerous human rights violations. While i'm not communist, mearly socialist, i still find it somewhat offensive to call China communist.
Arch Enemy said:luda,
There was/is a guy on this forums from China, named Fried Rice. If you read some of the past debates (the one dealing with China Threatening Taiwan) he keeps on saying that the Taiwanese people loves China and believes that they should be together as one. Obviously you're contradicting this statement.. I'd like to is that ideology (which Fried has) just a hoax by the Chinese government to show support for the "non-hostile" uniting of these two countries?
Arch Enemy said:I think I am starting to like Taiwanese people.. but please don't trust our Government that much they aren't as nice as people think they are. But most of our people are.
Arch Enemy said:By saying "Ultra" you're obviously rating America and China as two of the most patriotic nations. In China they tend to dislike their government and are subjected to publicly love their government by fear of torment and punishment. Then you have America with people who tend to publicly show their hatred of the Government because the current administration isn't what I like to call "good". American and Chinese Patriotism is no where as high as many of the European countries like Germany or France who love their country no matter what.
Arch Enemy said:I don't think China is a very peaceful nation. They've been involved with wars, mainly internal, but still wars. Their history holds alot of civil war type eras and ALWAYS the unrest of China. I think an aggressive cannot be a peaceful one and obviously China is an aggressive nation.
I still disagree with that, There's alot of youths who are growing up to not really like the American Government (well the present one). I feel that the curtains are opening from what we've seen before.. always the bright side of things (in terms of our Governemnt) will soon vanish and we'll start actually getting an idea of the truth. Did I tell you that our censorship is either loosening the noose or falling back on the job.. I've been able to view Area 51 on Google's Satelite Imagery.GarzaUK said:China and America are the most patriotic nations in the world, well patriotic bordering on disallusionment. .
Totally agree, I believe this war to be a mistake. Yes alot of people are in favor or supporting the war, not because of the reasons for why we invaded or the whole politics scheme, instead they're supporting the war to show their support for their Soldiers, the men and women who have dedicated their lives to the command of the Commander in Chief.I've seen in this forum scary patriotism and nationalism, that reminds me of my History lessons on Nazi Germany
Some people in this forum think you should agree with the Government during war no matter what. Some people (both sides) will act in denial of their party's wrong actions because they dislike the other side so much.
It's the Republican point of view.. it's now pretty much a bandwagon for most parties.. you agree what you're party believes and you accept what they do.Eg. I don't understand why Republicans disliked the war in Kosovo, but support the war in Iraq.
You've got that wrong; Kids in schools aren't forced to say the pledge of alliegiance and 99% of the time the Kids don't even care what they're saying and what those words mean.. they just want to get to "out-side" time sooner.Saying a pledge of alliegiance (swearing loyalty) in a school - that is ultra patriotism. I'm sure China might do it too.
The Chinese are ultra-patriotic, some are in my class in university, they dislike the Japanese alot. ?
Not I'm not going to be pissed off because you're absolutely correct. I accept this Imperialistic America for what it is, but I believe that like many countries in their Youth, we'll soon be shown that we are not unbeatable and we will take our place next to the rest of the World, in terms of maturity.China's and American history is steeped in violence external and internal. Both are imperialistic countries, (America has an empire in all but name). I know that will **** you off, but you should step back and look at the big picture here. American has been an imperialistic and warfaring country since it was born - your roots are British don't forget, you learned from your ancestors.
Urethra Franklin said:Fortunately they don't need your respect. You're United Statesian - that would harldy be worth much.
GarzaUK said:China and America are the most patriotic nations in the world.
GarzaUK said:China and America are the most patriotic nations in the world, well patriotic bordering on disallusionment. I've seen in this forum scary patriotism and nationalism, that reminds me of my History lessons on Nazi Germany.
Some people in this forum think you should agree with the Government during war no matter what. Some people (both sides) will act in denial of their party's wrong actions because they dislike the other side so much.
Eg. I don't understand why Republicans disliked the war in Kosovo, but support the war in Iraq.
Saying a pledge of alliegiance (swearing loyalty) in a school - that is ultra patriotism. I'm sure China might do it too.
The Chinese are ultra-patriotic, some are in my class in university, they dislike the Japanese alot. ?
China's and American history is steeped in violence external and internal. Both are imperialistic countries, (America has an empire in all but name). I know that will **** you off, but you should step back and look at the big picture here. American has been an imperialistic and warfaring country since it was born - your roots are British don't forget, you learned from your ancestors.
akyron said:I disagree. You can't take two steps in the USA without bumping into a liberal hippie democrat protesting the persecution of cockroaches or something.
I always wonder why are they in the streets? Why don't they go get a job?
You do not get much of that in a non democratic nation.
ludahai said:Well, the United States had to fight a war for its independence. However, most territorial acquisitions following that were peaceful: gained through purchase, or in the case of Oregon, an agreement on the delineation of the boundary. The southwest was gained in a war that Mexico started, though to be fair, it was a fight President Polk didn't shy away from.
Gandhi>Bush said:Remember the Indians?
Gandhi>Bush said:All conflict between the US and the Native Americans was started by the US. We stole their land. It's silly to think that they would just get over it.
This isn't the focus of the thread I'm sorry. My fault completely.
Back to hating france I'm all for it.
ludahai said:Actually, the U.S. didn't steal it, the British, Spanish, French, Mexicans and Russians did. The U.S. just acquired the land that others stole. :mrgreen:
I don't hate France, just their stupid asinine government.
GarzaUK said:So the US is not guilty of the genocide of the Native American people. We British left in 1776, millions of Native Americans dies after that.
With the exception of the Louisania Purchase, the United States imperialized the continent through war and conquest. You even tried to conquer Canada, but we repelled you :lol: , which resulted in us burning down half of the White House in 1812.
To say the US "acquired" the land is just ignoring the facts in favour of patriotism.
akyron said:I disagree. You can't take two steps in the USA without bumping into a liberal hippie democrat protesting the persecution of cockroaches or something.
I always wonder why are they in the streets? Why don't they go get a job?
You do not get much of that in a non democratic nation.
Arch Enemy said:You're really funny!
I love how you used "Liberal Hippie Democrat", basically saying that all Democrats are Hippies, all Hippies are Democrats, all Liberals are Democrats, all Democrats are Liberals.
You know why it doesn't happen in a non-democratic nation? They get killed.
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